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[BadBurger]

If they can keep cranking them out, yes. It's a quality device and rightfully receives a constant stream of positive word of mouth. The only thing holding it back IMO is the price of the low end model - for $400 one really should get a faster NVMe drive with 128 GB of storage rather than just a 64 GB eMMC. The high end model will remain a boutique item for people with plenty of disposable income to throw at a handheld.

 

[Ezquimacore]

I can't buy one right now so no, it's not going to sell that much. Valve is not confident enough.

 

[Ezquimacore]

Will just outsell Vita at least

it won't even outsell the wii u.

 

[Ezquimacore]

They can start by making it available worldwide. It hasn’t even launched in Norway.

Anyway, how do the Switch fill up store shelves and not the Deck?

Nintendo has been developing, publishing and distributing toys, games and consoles for 40+ years, valve is testing the waters.

 

[Tams]

I feel like it should be more popular than the weak ass Switch. I tried talking to people at work about it and they didn't know what I was saying and one guy asked me if Nintendo made it cuz it's portable

Valve would actually need to start releasing games again for that to even be a seed of a dream.

 

[BadBurger]

it won't even outsell the wii u.

The Steam Deck has been selling very well. I think long term it will do just fine.

 

[yurinka]

For sure, specially if down the line they reduce its price.

As I remember it has been the top 1 or top 2 weekly for almost the whole year in Steam. The Switch sold over 100M and this has way more games and is more powerful. So yes, it will sell way more than 20M.

 

[TheStam]

It's such an amazing product. They could have sold a lot better if people could actually buy it.

 

[GigaBowser]

It's such an amazing product. They could have sold a lot better if people could actually buy it.

Yeah they should be shipping way more than this. What gives?

For sure, specially if down the line they reduce its price.

As I remember it has been the top 1 or top 2 weekly for almost the whole year in Steam. The Switch sold over 100M and this has way more games and is more powerful. So yes, it will sell way more than 20M.

I love my Deck and have stopped playing my Switch, but the demographic is not comparable because Steam is selling to PC, Valve gamers and Nintendo is selling to everyone. Also people love buying Nintendo games for some stupid reason even though Metroid and Zelda are their only appealing franchises and Nintendo refuses to make games from their better legacy franchises. Lots of casual appeal is the feedback I get when I ask around.

Having said that, I think SteakDeck 1/2/3 combined can reach about 50 million because PC gaming culture is growing.

 

[Danjin44]

Also people love buying Nintendo games for some stupid reason even though Metroid and Zelda are their only appealing franchises

Man, you make some weird ass posts. “stupid reason”? Just because you personally don’t care for those game, it doesn’t mean it’s true for everyone else.

Why in every post you make you have to act such a “fanboy” about everything?

 

[GigaBowser]

Man, you make some weird ass posts. “stupid reason”? Just because you personally don’t care for those game, it doesn’t mean it’s true for everyone else.

Why in every post you you have act such a “fanboy” everything?

It's just my tastes.

Nintendo doesn't release games that appeal to me so I won't pretend to like them

 

[Banjo64]

The question is does this handheld have more pulling power than something like the Vita or Wii U. And the answer is no.

 

[Danjin44]

It's just my tastes.

Nintendo doesn't release games that appeal to me so I won't pretend to like them

Thats fine, you can have any taste you want but calling people "stupid" because they dont share your taste?

Just because its internet it doesn't mean you automatically have to act like a crazy fanboy, be little more logical, I dont think thats too much to ask here.

 

[Ezquimacore]

The Steam Deck has been selling very well. I think long term it will do just fine.

yeah there's a lot of demand, but my comment is more about valve not manufacturing enough.

 

[GigaBowser]

Thats fine, you can have any taste you want but calling people "stupid" because they dont share your taste?

Just because its internet it doesn't mean you automatically have to act like a crazy fanboy, be little more logical, I dont think thats too much to ask here.

I said the reason was stupid, not the people.

Relax Karen.

 

[I Master l]

2-3 Million max, It's a niche product

 

[RoboFu]

In Korea, Yes.

 

[Danjin44]

I said the reason was stupid, not the people.

Relax Karen.

“stupid” why? Because you don’t like those games? People only allowed to like the games you like?

 

[GigaBowser]

“stupid” why? Because you don’t like those games? People only allowed to like the games you like?

Hold my beer.

 

[bender]

My pre-order finally came available so they are one unit closer to 20m.

 

[Tams]

Yeah they should be shipping way more than this. What gives?

I love my Deck and have stopped playing my Switch, but the demographic is not comparable because Steam is selling to PC, Valve gamers and Nintendo is selling to everyone. Also people love buying Nintendo games for some stupid reason even though Metroid and Zelda are their only appealing franchises and Nintendo refuses to make games from their better legacy franchises. Lots of casual appeal is the feedback I get when I ask around.

Having said that, I think SteakDeck 1/2/3 combined can reach about 50 million because PC gaming culture is growing.

Read the sticky.

 

[GigaBowser]

My pre-order finally came available so they are one unit closer to 20m.

Good times ahead Sir

Read the sticky.

Spoiler

 

[SeraphJan]

If the stock is always available, and if they advertise it enough, it could become one of the most successful device, the potential is there.

For those of people that have a Deck, there is literally no reason to buy Switch version of the same third party game, not only it runs significantly worse, but also way more expensive than Steam version price wise.

Deck's customizable controller is suited for every type of game possible, even RTS games. And I absolutely love the extra buttons

It has all the PC feature but extremely ease to use compare to PC (for example in game spec overlays, 30 FPS lock mode etc.)

After tried this device myself there is no going back for me. And I use my Switch significantly less (only to play exclusives).

And don't even get me started on the emulation side of things

The only problem is that Valve's advertisement doesn't seems to be aggressive enough.

This thing had more than tripled its price by scalper in my country, which tells the demand is there.

 

[bender]

Good time ahead Sir

Looking into the emulation and re-watching TRSHE pushed me over the edge.

 

[Interface23]

As soon as the Falcom games and Personas run on it I'm in

 

[CrustyBritches]

If the production capacity was there I think it could hit 10 million before Deck 2 releases. I think it would be good idea to share a chip between Deck 2, DeckVR, and even a home "console" with a Deck-like controller.

 

[tr1p1ex]

shouldn't we crawl before we walk? 20 million is an easy no. You could have at least said will it outsell the Wii U or outsell the Quest or even sell more than 2 million units.

Everything to me says no because only the real diehards want this. The games aren't made directly for it. IT doesn't run the OS of pc games out of the box. It feels like most folks would want a new graphics card instead of a SteamDeck. It's fairly expensive. Also it feels like laptops rule the day in the computing world which I think makes it much tougher of a market to sell a handheld gaming system into. And then the distribution methods are only through Valve and they surely don't want to make too many and over estimate demand and be stuck with too much inventory. That will kill the pocketbook. I wouldn't be surprised either if Valve's goal is really proof of concept more than anything. And they hope someone else picks up the hardware part of it. Or at least they just become the niche VIVE of the handheld pcgaming world. Also the real pcgaming to me at least is m/k. Handheld doesn't jive with that.

AS a pcgamer I think Nintendo is the perfect complement. With Nintendo I get the really polished more arcadey party game stuff. And with pc I get the big often bloated often buggy half working cutting edge graphics ambitious type games. So I think Nintendo ie the Switch currently is much more appealing to complement my pcgaming habits. And of course quite a few pc games are available on the Switch if you really want to play a pcgame on a handheld.

The xfactor is ...you never know when a market/generation of customers is ready to eschew pcgaming's past (cutting edge computing power) and move to a new paradigm (a more flexible more inexpensive platform at the expense of graphics.)

 

[64bitmodels]

the deck selling even quarter of that would be very very unrealistic, especially when you consider the issues with getting one to begin with

-bad reservation system that forces you to wait in line for if you want to purchase one
-can take up to a year or more in order to get
-when your time in line is fufilled, you have to check your email and pay in the next 3 days which is very unlikely, as not everyone's expected to keep 400$ on hand for 8-9 months, plus the fact of email becoming less and less popular these days for very obvious reasons
-not being sold in store shelves
-little to no advertising which means that outside of youtube and even steam no one will truly know about the product unless it's through word of mouth, and finding someone else in real life who knows about the steam deck is like finding a fucking 4 leaf clover


The product itself is amazing but there's no fucking point if there's hardly any advertisement or availability. They need to dump the stupid preorder system and get these things on store shelves ASAP.

 

[lukilladog]

Valve will cann it and wont give any numbers nor reasons.

 

[CrustyBritches]

the deck selling even quarter of that would be very very unrealistic, especially when you consider the issues with getting one to begin with

-bad reservation system that forces you to wait in line for if you want to purchase one
-can take up to a year or more in order to get
-when your time in line is fufilled, you have to check your email and pay in the next 3 days which is very unlikely, as not everyone's expected to keep 400$ on hand for 8-9 months, plus the fact of email becoming less and less popular these days for very obvious reasons
-not being sold in store shelves
-little to no advertising which means that outside of youtube and even steam no one will truly know about the product unless it's through word of mouth, and finding someone else in real life who knows about the steam deck is like finding a fucking 4 leaf clover


The product itself is amazing but there's no fucking point if there's hardly any advertisement or availability. They need to dump the stupid preorder system and get these things on store shelves ASAP.

Seems like you're conflating having a lack of supply with having a bad reservation system. They are still fulfilling orders from the first 48hrs, how are they supposed to have units on the shelf? It's much better to have a queue so you get it in the order you reserved.

 

[brian0057]

Valve will cann it and wont give any numbers nor reasons.

Ah, the Google method.

 

[baphomet]

the deck selling even quarter of that would be very very unrealistic, especially when you consider the issues with getting one to begin with

-bad reservation system that forces you to wait in line for if you want to purchase one
-can take up to a year or more in order to get
-when your time in line is fufilled, you have to check your email and pay in the next 3 days which is very unlikely, as not everyone's expected to keep 400$ on hand for 8-9 months, plus the fact of email becoming less and less popular these days for very obvious reasons
-not being sold in store shelves
-little to no advertising which means that outside of youtube and even steam no one will truly know about the product unless it's through word of mouth, and finding someone else in real life who knows about the steam deck is like finding a fucking 4 leaf clover


The product itself is amazing but there's no fucking point if there's hardly any advertisement or availability. They need to dump the stupid preorder system and get these things on store shelves ASAP.

What a dumb take.

 

[KiteGr]

I don't think they can manufacture enough to satisfy their preorders, let alone sell millions.

 

[64bitmodels]

What a dumb take.

care to explain why

 

[prinz_valium]

make it 2 million and I vote yes

 

[fran.fernandez]

Nah, gonna end up same as all those Chinese portable gaming pc devices.

And when Nintendo switch 2 comes out, it would be only dust.

Only if they start making exclusives

 

[baphomet]

care to explain why

Every single system they can make is already sold out a year in advance. They're still filling preorders from the first day and selling ~30k units a month.

As long as their production capacity stays the same, it makes more sense to continue filling preorders (using a regular preorder system that gamers have been crying about wanting for the past few years), than to put a product in a brick and mortar store and hope people buy it.

 

[AffirmativeAfro]

Nah, its too niche of a product and it has no retail presence as well.

If it sells 500k-1million I think Valve would be very happy with those numbers, and as long as they continue to support it I don't really care how much it sells.

 

[jigglet]

I feel like it should be more popular than the weak ass Switch. I tried talking to people at work about it and they didn't know what I was saying and one guy asked me if Nintendo made it cuz it's portable

Yeah it’s utterly confusing why the 3090ti isn’t the best selling GPU

 

[ArtHands]

it won't even outsell the wii u.

It will probably outsell the Wii U too. just a matter of time

 

[Hosam6xavi]

Most people don't know what is steamdeck is. It's a super niche product for pc gamers.

it doesn't bring anything new it's just a steam handheld machine for people who prefer playing on heigh end PC.

 

[BlackTron]

No, and that's OK.

Nobody expects Ferrari to outsell Toyota.

 

[BennyBlanco]

has valve done literally any advertising of it outside of steam itself?

 

[PhaseJump]

People who downplay it don't realize that it's a console more than an optional PC. Out of the box, there is no fucking around. It's a game changer. A proton console that just needs supply, retail shelf presence and marketing. Perhaps a dock bundle. All these things will be up against more obsolete specs by the time they ever happen.

The worst thing about all of it is the scoffing and speculation. People who don't have it, dismissing it or delusionally hyping it up as a Series S/X PS5 level thing.

Deck's a Proton console, and Valve should absolutely make another one to fuck with the Series S.

 

[nominedomine]

I think that the Steam Deck is more like an experimental product for them to start solving a bunch of things in advance so that ultimately multiple product will come out of it.

Valve does seem to have a long term plan of moving PC gaming away from Windows.

 

[Craig of War]

The question is does this handheld have more pulling power than something like the Vita or Wii U. And the answer is no.

Damn MR. Banjo here with another horrible take that will age like milk

 

[ArtHands]

has valve done literally any advertising of it outside of steam itself?

They don’t need to. thing’s back-ordered for the next year or so, and they increased production recently

 

[yurinka]

Yeah they should be shipping way more than this. What gives?

I love my Deck and have stopped playing my Switch, but the demographic is not comparable because Steam is selling to PC, Valve gamers and Nintendo is selling to everyone. Also people love buying Nintendo games for some stupid reason even though Metroid and Zelda are their only appealing franchises and Nintendo refuses to make games from their better legacy franchises. Lots of casual appeal is the feedback I get when I ask around.

Having said that, I think SteakDeck 1/2/3 combined can reach about 50 million because PC gaming culture is growing.

Steam/PC gamer audience and market share is bigger than the Switch/Nintendo one: PC (Steam represents most of its market) market its over half the size of the console market. The market leader in consoles is Sony with almost half the market, which implies PC has a bigger market size in terms of revenue.

Many of the top PC games like League of Legends or Dungeon Fighter Online are F2P games, so make sure their userbase is also way bigger than the Nintendo one. Most Nintendo games can be emulated in Steam Deck.

has valve done literally any advertising of it outside of steam itself?

I'd say they only made the usual PR campaign of sending some of them to press and influencers. I assume their production numbers aren't so huge, so probably they already sell all the units they can produce by promoting it inside Steam, so no need to promote it elsewhere. Which saves them a huge cost/investment.

I think they also may prefer to keep a low profile during the first year or so, implementing pending stuff, fixing other stuff, tweaking the OS and adding a great catalog with hardore, passionate early adopters only. And then once it's properly matured they can open it to a more mainstream audience.

 

[GigaBowser]

Steam/PC gamer audience and market share is bigger than the Switch/Nintendo one: PC (Steam represents most of its market) market its over half the size of the console market. The market leader in consoles is Sony with almost half the market, which implies PC has a bigger market size in terms of revenue.

Many of the top PC games like League of Legends or Dungeon Fighter Online are F2P games, so make sure their userbase is also way bigger than the Nintendo one. Most Nintendo games can be emulated in Steam Deck.


I'd say they only made the usual PR campaign of sending some of them to press and influencers. I assume their production numbers aren't so huge, so probably they already sell all the units they can produce by promoting it inside Steam, so no need to promote it elsewhere. Which saves them a huge cost/investment.

I think they also may prefer to keep a low profile during the first year or so, implementing pending stuff, fixing other stuff, tweaking the OS and adding a great catalog with hardore, passionate early adopters only. And then once it's properly matured they can open it to a more mainstream audience.

What I meant was Steam Deck sells to Steam users, Switch sells to everyone.

 

[Denton]

SteamDeck/SteamBox is a PC. It is kinda irrelevant how much it sells because its library is not dependant on it selling enough units.

That said, if Valve marketed it in mainstream and sold it across the planet in Walmarts, BestBuys and their equivalents, sure it could sell tens of millions. But I doubt Valve is interested in that. They don't have the capacity for it.