xion4360
Member
technically those cutscenes arent even real time...so thats not the actual game's graphics. it just looks very similar to the original because its emulating the same scene.
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The Last of Us Part I - PS5 - Coming September 2 (PC version in development)
prinz_valium
Member
I know. I won't millions of people will tho.
Just like they did with GTAV
Fine by me, but I don't have to like it.
Lognor
Banned
If it accomplishes similar results, who cares?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You learned nothing, cause clearly you don't know about this subject and refuse to read through your hyperbole. The entire gameplay/animations system has changed to be more in line with the second.
They have to use stripped down source code, and rebuild all of those systems from the ground up.
Game development isn't copy/paste.
remember_spinal
Banned
The same people that will go crazy over GOLDEN EYE remaster
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Skyrim was also egregious with its "Special Editions" every other year, but it was somewhat remedied by the fact that MODS on PC made them almost irrelevant and the games were heavily discounted soon after release, which cannot be said for Sony published games. Halo 1 was remastered 10 years after it's original release, so I see no issue there. Red Dead Redemption has never received a remake or remaster even though people have been begging.
elcapitano
Member
The gameplay improvements and Graphics will be fairly fucking massive to be fair.
Price of course is relative to each individual though. I'd rather play this again remade than a lot of new games
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Whatever loss from 100% PS to PC converts will be small no matter how many people on forums say otherwise. Not only is PC an untapped market, but some of the sales on PC (going by gamers posts) are them being experienced PS gamers who want to double dip for the PC version. So it's not like that gamer is bailing PS. They just want to play it on PC this time. Maybe they got an awesome PC. Maybe they cant get a PS5 yet, so PC is the only option.
Think of it like the old Apple days. Total ecosystem, PC hating kind of platform. Very loyal users. Apple bailed on them for iTunes on PC, Intel Macs, MS OS and Office can be used on Macs etc... Suddenly they realized you can make a lot more money with an untapped market over whatever ultra loyal user hates the brand going forward. Its a totally mainstream promoted computer brand which is the exact opposite of the old days.
Money talks. Apple realized there's only so much money you can make off their existing core users. So to grow the brand, they went PC.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If that sells for $70, I'll be standing right next to you with my pitch fork.
kyliethicc
Member
If they had changed stuff too much, especially the look of the characters and the story, people would be mad.
I’m sure they’ll be fine with the people complaining “it looks the same” instead of that whole thing.
I’m sure they’ll be fine with the people complaining “it looks the same” instead of that whole thing.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Some areas look better, some look only slightly touched up.
Looks like TLOU2.
I mean there are parts like the Clicker someone posted that is clearly better.
But in this shot....it just different
Some parts look better and some I actually prefer in the original shot.
This is clearly based on the PS4 hardware.
probably Resolution & Ray-tracing will set it apart.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
dcmk7
Banned
Certainly sounds like it was one of your favourite games ever..
Ironically, it's one of my favourite video games ever. Just not for the gameplay. Gameplay sucks. Shooting? Meh. Stealth? Joke. Environmental puzzles? LOL. Exploration? What exploration?
Story, characters, graphics, cinematics, music (OMG the Gustavo Santaolalla score!), atmosphere. It's all amazing.
If you don't care about my opinion just ignore me and STFU.
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Salty Popsicle
Banned
The original Golden Eye released in 1997 and the only remake between then and now was released in 2010. Much easier to justify a beloved game like that when its approaching its 25th anniversary. TLoU on the other hand is not yet even 10 years old and this is the second attempt at a remake Sony will be selling.
FunkMiller
Member
Unless there is a significant alteration in gameplay style or story (neither of which is needed) charging full price for this on Playstation is fucking bottom of the barrel greed.
Swift_Star
Banned
Lmao wonder how he will comeback from this.
Stuart360
Member
Yeah for usre, i just meant there are certain landmark games that i would have no problem with if they got remastered every gen, to keep them relevant and current.
I'm only talking a handful of games though, and i'd say this game would make that list. Plus after watching the DOC do aplaythrough of this last week, the gameplay def needs a bit of a tweak up.
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GymWolf
Member
Wait, i can simply say "Is a business" instead of it's a business?
Don't you need a subject?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
We had a few other hints this gen that this is what they had in mind. Been a running theme.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Salty Popsicle
Banned
If they give it the Halo Anniversary makeover I think it would be justified at that price. If it's just a simple upscale in resolution and 60fps, then $30 max.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
RE2 and RE3 yes. RE4 maybe. I saw a comparison where the layout of the opening village level is literally identical. RE2 and RE3 were top down games that needed a complete redesign. RE4 doesnt need that and I would be very interested to see if they bring any gameplay features beyond what we have already seen in RE2 and RE3. New bosses? New combat mechanics? It will be interesting to compare the two next week.
TLOU was already a fully 3d game like RE4 and likely will receive a similar treatment. That said, this game IS getting TLOU2's combat, animation, and AI improvements so it's not as simple as SOTC and Demon Souls which literally run the old game in the background. I highly doubt any of the old TLOU code is running behind the scenes here. They seem to have reused the cutscenes choreography and swapped out the models and other textures while also updating the facial animations, but the combat encounters might be redesigned to incorporate the new melee moves. However, it doesnt look like we will be getting new bosses, new gameplay sections and playable characters like we saw in RE2 and RE3. TBH, We wont know if RE4 will be getting that extensive of a makeover until next week's gameplay demo.
Swift_Star
Banned
You said the game is not for you.Certainly it is. Just not for the gameplay. It's not that hard to understand, you know.
How is a game that’s not for you one of your favorite games?
Stop lying, you’re just here to get reactions and annoy those of us that do like the game.
Fake
Member
Was a damn good era indeed. Crap hardware used at their best they can.
Ulysses 31
Member
Yup, I mainly played for the story too.Certainly it is. Just not for the gameplay. It's not that hard to understand, you know.
The combat controls was mediocre at best.
I know Joel never had special forces training but he's survived for decades, he shouldn't handle fire arms like they weight 50 kilos.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
That quote was about TLOU2. I was pointing out that the sequel was stripped down from everything that made the first one amazing: great story, likeable character. All you were left was forgettable gameplay. That's why TLOU2 wasn't for me. Learn to read.
How is that contradictory to what I said in this thread?
Listen, I'm not your enemy. We like the same game. Just for different reasons. So chill out and stop calling me a liar.
Swift_Star
Banned
Nobody believes you, sweetie. Be on your way and stop trolling.That quote was about TLOU2. I was pointing out that the sequel was stripped down from everything that made the first one amazing: great story, likeable character. All you were left was forgettable gameplay. That's why TLOU2 wasn't for me. Learn to read.
How is that contradictory to what I said in this thread?
Listen, I'm not your enemy. We like the same game. Just for different reasons. So chill out and stop calling me a liar.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
You have to pay for quaity.
Neofire
Member
You have no data or concert proof of any of your rationale. This is pure conjecture.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Thats far more reasonable I guess.
I personally thought the shooting, cover system, stealth and platforming of Uncharted games resulted in a far more engaging third person combat than say Gears, MGS4 and Splinter Cell. I felt far more nimble and the action felt far more intense. They havent aged well though. I tried replaying the first three games and I just couldnt do it. The PS4 entries are better but they also have issues. I can only play them on Easy to have 'fun'.
TLOU took it to the next level by almost forcing you into melee combat and creating an experience I simply had never experienced before. TLOU2 elaborated on that. I dont think its the best third person shooter, but its up there with Mass Effect Andromeda, MGSV, RE2 and Anthem as some of the best third person combat.
That said, I know its not for everyone. The input lag is really bad and gameplay needs a bit of a reboot.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I dont. I dont work at game companies or Apple.
But I'll trust their strategic decisions on doing what they can to make more profits as good enough reasons to do what they do.
They wouldnt go through all this hassle doing PC ports and buying Nixxes to lose sales, profits or users.
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Swift_Star
Banned
I wonder if y’all think the crash and Spyro remakes should’ve been free too. Master chief collection also wasn’t free.
But oh well it’s only a problem when it’s not from your favorite company.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
I HOPE TLOU2 COMES WITH THIS AS WELL!
It would suck to have TLOU1 Remake on PS5, but still have to play the PS4 version of TLOU2. That wouldn't make any sense.
It would suck to have TLOU1 Remake on PS5, but still have to play the PS4 version of TLOU2. That wouldn't make any sense.
Vick
Member
I'll never understand these takes.. i just fucking can't.Yup, I mainly played for the story too.
The combat controls was mediocre at best.
I know Joel never had special forces training but he's survived for decades, he shouldn't handle fire arms like they weight 50 kilos.
Evil Within combat controls are mediocre. TLOU controls are fucking sublime, 10 years lasting competitive Multiplayer.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Only imbeciles who can't read with understanding wouldn't believe me. I'm okay with it. XOXO, sweet prince!
Belthazar
Member
The game is about her, get over it.
Yoboman
Member
Character faces from the original cut scenes are still top tier, but it had the advantage of being pre rendered.Some areas look better, some look only slightly touched up.
It's in gameplay where the game shows age visually
hemo memo
Gold Member
FTFY
graywolf323
Member
is there still a way to see how many posts which users have in a thread sorted by post count? I'm kinda curious which sides fanboys are more active in here
Ulysses 31
Member
The gun controls mostly, the melee combat was better but a bit on the button mashy side IMO.
I didn't think the game was that replayable to learn the level lay outs and enemies spawns/locations to get as good as in those videos. I experienced the story and that enough TLOU for me.
And I didn't care for the multiplayer.
Neofire
Member
You had me agreeing for the most part up until you thought that Sony release a game on a platform that has never seen the first iteration on it and release it at the same time as their own platform. Splitting the player base up.
You kinda contradicted your last part about Sony's strategy being too aggressive (which I completely think it is already) but want them to start releasing their 1st party games day in date on the PC?
