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Steam Deck | General Review Thread

Guilty_AI

Member
YAAAHHHRRRRR!!! pass the Deck mate! YAAAHHHRRR!!!



if you imagine them singing about the Steam Deck this song gets a brand new meaning of the "fiddler" that won't let anyone else play with the Steam Deck lol and will kill you if you try to xD

No wonder its called steam deck
 

CrustyBritches

Gold Member
Some screens from the LTT video...
Battery life...
Deck-Batter-Linus.jpg

Price comparison...
Deck-Price-Linus.jpg
Internal vs SD card load times for Control...
Deck-SDLoad-Linus.jpg

I'm getting the 512GB and planning on running Windows 10(Steam, GoG, Game Pass) and putting emu on the microSD. It's weird that the MicroSD card is keeping up with the internal SSD in this test, but I'm guessing that's the base eMMC model being compared. I think that's roughly PS4/Xbox One load times. The "fastest storage" 512GB model should be doing much better than that, you'd think anyway.
 

bbeach123

Member
So the GPU is mx450/1050(laptop) equivalent .

Bit dissapointing but consider the price it still great . probably can play everything cross gen but cant play a few AAA next(current) gen game .
 

daveonezero

Banned
Some screens from the LTT video...


I'm getting the 512GB and planning on running Windows 10(Steam, GoG, Game Pass) and putting emu on the microSD. It's weird that the MicroSD card is keeping up with the internal SSD in this test, but I'm guessing that's the base eMMC model being compared. I think that's roughly PS4/Xbox One load times. The "fastest storage" 512GB model should be doing much better than that, you'd think anyway.
I would imagine the test unit is the high end one. Linus had a case.
 

synce

Member
If they can get the second generation Deck to be smaller and not die in 2 hours it could be a real game changer. This is a good start but I don't see it replacing a laptop for utility, or a proper handheld for portability.
 

Metnut

Member
This looks really cool. Any reason why it wouldn’t be able to get 6+ hours of battery life hooked up to a small Anker portable battery? Does it draw power faster than the anker could supply it?
 

TheStam

Member
Would have loved stuff like VRR, DLSS and a better screen, but it looks to be such a great device at an amazing price point I can't complain about anything other than the long wait to get it. You shouldn't idealize commercial companies, but as a PC gamer you gotta love Valve really. They're smart though, I quit gamepass and am taking extra care to always buy from Steam since I reserved the Steam Deck and I'm sure others are doing the same.
 
This looks really cool. Any reason why it wouldn’t be able to get 6+ hours of battery life hooked up to a small Anker portable battery? Does it draw power faster than the anker could supply it?
Well it could theoretically pull as much as 45W, as that's what the charger is rated for, and that's what the tests showed it topping out at. However, as long as your powerbank can push around 30W through PowerDelivery (Anker PowerCores seem to be able to), you'll easily be able to supply the ~25-27W the Deck needs at the very top end of its own operation - so no charging from the powerbank while playing, but extending the playtime will be perfectly feasible. If you get something like a 20000mAh powerbank, that's basically another 100Wh on top of the Deck's 40, so you could easily triple the gaming time.
 

Reallink

Member
The display looks to be poor with deltaE's well over 10 and 68% SRGB coverage. Those are specs you'd find on $30-$50 burner phones these days, and are likely worse than a launch OG Switch. In real world terms this means primary colors are going to appear muted/unsaturated, secondaries could appear flat out wrong, and whites are going to be biased (tinged toward) a certain color, rather than neutral.
 
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Ultradsa

Member
I'm really disappointed by these results
Which results? The battery life seems good for indie/older titles at 6:30 average. playing 60 FPS AAA is pretty short at 1:40 but you can extend that time by playing at capped 30 FPS. The screen seems good, speakers beat anything in class, loading from SD looks decent. Benchmarks in general look great.

I always play my handhelds tethered to power so the battery life won't affect me choosing higher FPS admittedly. For the price it's in a league of it's own IMO.
 

j0hnnix

Member
Damn, this thing looking damn good. Mine is Q2, but I'm hoping lost ark works with this. Going to sync in so much time.
 

Shifty1897

Member
This looks really cool. Any reason why it wouldn’t be able to get 6+ hours of battery life hooked up to a small Anker portable battery? Does it draw power faster than the anker could supply it?
I do this with my Switch on long flights and the Anker Battery will not only keep up, it will charge the system (slowly). It should work the same here.

I really just want something to play my PS1/PSP collection now that my Vita is dead. This is probably overkill for just that, but it has the added appeal of playing my Steam collection. If only Persona 4 Golden would work on it.
 
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Kenpachii

Member
Honestly the steam deck looks mighty comfortable to hold, my major complain with the switch.

Can't wait to see emulation on this thing.
 

GigaBowser

The bear of bad news
Honestly the steam deck looks mighty comfortable to hold, my major complain with the switch.

Can't wait to see emulation on this thing.
The shell is a bit like Wii U which is cosy feeling and ugly as hell like the Deck.

But beauty is only skin deep.
:messenger_face_steam:
 
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stevish

Neo Member
Looks quite comfortable to hold. My biggest issue with switch is that it's uncomfortable and underpowered. I have a ton of pc games I'd like to play on the couch or train, this will be perfect.
 

Nvzman

Member
Yes, it looks terrible… Everyone with a 512 order would be wise to cancel. Definitely do that, no ulterior motive here for me, just looking out for you buddy…
May I seriously ask...
wtf were you guys expecting?
This thing looks awesome, the battery life may not be the best but you guys do realize its actually the best battery life of anything even similar to this product? Its not basically a 2017 phone (Switch), its a laptop that has much more horsepower. The fact that Valve is selling a $400-$600 gaming handheld that can play pretty new PC games a good framerates under 40w is impressive as hell, and the OS's built in FSR will improve performance (it hasnt been enabled yet).

I'm excited to dual-boot Steam OS and Windows 11 and just screw around with it alone. This is one of the coolest gadgets thats released in a while.
 

GigaBowser

The bear of bad news
May I seriously ask...
wtf were you guys expecting?
This thing looks awesome, the battery life may not be the best but you guys do realize its actually the best battery life of anything even similar to this product? Its not basically a 2017 phone (Switch), its a laptop that has much more horsepower. The fact that Valve is selling a $400-$600 gaming handheld that can play pretty new PC games a good framerates under 40w is impressive as hell, and the OS's built in FSR will improve performance (it hasnt been enabled yet).

I'm excited to dual-boot Steam OS and Windows 11 and just screw around with it alone. This is one of the coolest gadgets thats released in a while.
Problem with a handheld this size is you have to choose either comfort (Wii U like big and bubbly shell) or style (Switch: looks good but uncomfortable to hold).
 

octiny

Banned
May I seriously ask...
wtf were you guys expecting?
This thing looks awesome, the battery life may not be the best but you guys do realize its actually the best battery life of anything even similar to this product? Its not basically a 2017 phone (Switch), its a laptop that has much more horsepower. The fact that Valve is selling a $400-$600 gaming handheld that can play pretty new PC games a good framerates under 40w is impressive as hell, and the OS's built in FSR will improve performance (it hasnt been enabled yet).

I'm excited to dual-boot Steam OS and Windows 11 and just screw around with it alone. This is one of the coolest gadgets thats released in a while.

Just an FYI, the one you quoted is being sarcastic.

More people that cancel their pre-orders, the faster we get ours 😁
 

Nvzman

Member
Just an FYI, the one you quoted is being sarcastic.

More people that cancel their pre-orders, the faster we get ours 😁
Yea I realized I quoted the wrong post, but regardless what I said stands, I don't really understand what people were expecting. For the price the Deck is at, its a genuinely phenomenal deal, especially in a market where PC parts are in a terribly overpriced state.
 
They're smart though, I quit gamepass and am taking extra care to always buy from Steam since I reserved the Steam Deck and I'm sure others are doing the same.
I'll be playing both Gamepass along with my crazy large Steam library on mine. ;)
 
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The display looks to be poor with deltaE's well over 10 and 68% SRB coverage. Those are specs you'd find on $30-$50 burner phones these days, and are likely worse than a launch OG Switch. In real world terms this means primary colors are going to appear muted/unsaturated, secondaries could appear flat out wrong, and whites are going to be biased (tinged toward) a certain color, rather than neutral.
Unfortunately, to get the price down to where it is, they had to skimp somewhere. The display is something really important though. 68% sRGB coverage is really, really bad especially considering how important looking at your game on the screen is. Cheap/budget gaming laptops regularly have screens with that poor a color gamut and the experience of gaming is often quite bad on those low-tier gaming laptops. Let's see what more detailed reviews say about it when it's officially released.
 

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Can’t wait for this thing. Have the top tier preordered and the money in my Steam wallet. If it does even half of what it should it will be well worth it.
 

Reallink

Member
Unfortunately, to get the price down to where it is, they had to skimp somewhere. The display is something really important though. 68% sRGB coverage is really, really bad especially considering how important looking at your game on the screen is. Cheap/budget gaming laptops regularly have screens with that poor a color gamut and the experience of gaming is often quite bad on those low-tier gaming laptops. Let's see what more detailed reviews say about it when it's officially released.

A better display (even an OLED) would have likely only added $10 - $20 to the BoM. Cost may be a reasonable excuse for the $399 model, but not the step up models (which already feature odd ball prices and an upgraded AR coating). I'd certainly argue that the base model would be a much better product with an OLED at say $419 or $429, rather than using a bargain bin panel to hit an arbitrary $399 price point.
 
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IbizaPocholo

NeoGAFs Kent Brockman


Delays have done nothing to dull the hype around Valve's Steam Deck which launches on February 25th worldwide. The thought of playing one's Steam games in a Nintendo Switch-like handheld has always been appealing and soon, it's going to be a reality.

Let's take a look at 15 things you should know before picking one up in the near or far future, including some new details that have recently been revealed.
 

AV

We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Probably gonna wait for the first hardware revision personally, but it does look incredibly appealing for something I can load with all kinds of ROMs.
 

Kupfer

Member
This is a useful tool to sort your library by verified, playable and unsupported. So far unknown still takes up most of the space, but hopefully that will change in the future.

 
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Starhowl

Member
4chan already found out about a chip that's designed for up to 85°C whereas the Steam Deck is running at over 91°C with an ambient temperature of under 20°C - this cannot possibly be good! 🔥

Prepare for inbound defective devices. :messenger_face_steam:
 

lukilladog

Member
Don´t you guys think this is gonna be abandoned by Steam, like all their other hardware. Steam machines, Index, steam controller...
 

Markio128

Member
It all sounds very positive, but I just don’t like the look of it aesthetically; where the thumb sticks are placed, along with the general size of the thing. It almost looks unwieldy to me. I struggle enough with the Switch getting uncomfortable after an hour or so, so I’d be crippled after 10 minutes of using the Steam Deck, by the looks of things.
 

Kupfer

Member
4chan already found out about a chip that's designed for up to 85°C whereas the Steam Deck is running at over 91°C with an ambient temperature of under 20°C - this cannot possibly be good! 🔥

Prepare for inbound defective devices. :messenger_face_steam:
You can look up the specs of the IC yourself here : MAX77961

Even though the manufacturer gives it a 85 °C limit, according to Valve it is safe up to 105 °C. I'm sure Valve has done a lot of testing and talked to the manufacturer of the IC. The 85°C are probably just an indication to hedge, with air to the top.
 

Kadve

Member
You can look up the specs of the IC yourself here : MAX77961

Even though the manufacturer gives it a 85 °C limit, according to Valve it is safe up to 105 °C. I'm sure Valve has done a lot of testing and talked to the manufacturer of the IC. The 85°C are probably just an indication to hedge, with air to the top.
Even phones today fells hot to the touch without covers. That thing must be insane to actually hold if the CPU can reach upwards of 100 °C+.

Also any word on how loud the fan inside the thing is? looks like a blower.
 

Kupfer

Member
Even phones today fells hot to the touch without covers. That thing must be insane to actually hold if the CPU can reach upwards of 100 °C+.

Also any word on how loud the fan inside the thing is? looks like a blower.
CPU doesn't get anywhere close to 100°C
I can't upload a screenshot right now, but skip to 8:30m the minutemark :



Please people, this is how misunderstandings and misinformation arise. Just do your research before you publish avoidable wrong facts.
 
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