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[REDRZA MWS]

Steam alone has 120m user base.
These people think PC is baren land. Hell, PS have 17m ps5 users now. Once PS4 is discontinued due, to next gen games, PS wont have those userbase anymore.
PC would still keep those numbers.

Thank you. I didn’t think what I said was news to anyone. They are still simply caught up on counting plastic boxes. Xbox is a PLATFORM, not just a console. There are more devices already in homes that people can play Xbox on, especially with the value of Gamepass.

 

[Yoboman]

Phil is actually is struggling to be coherent now that Jimbo is promising to practice what Phil only preaches with Bungie

 

[Fare thee well]

You can reach this larger audience right here Phil. Remake 31st Century Combat.

 

[kingfey]

Thank you. I didn’t think what I said was news to anyone. They are still simply caught up on counting plastic boxes. Xbox is a PLATFORM, not just a console. There are more devices already in homes that people can play Xbox on, especially with the value of Gamepass.

Every windows pc comes in with Windows store. It advertises gamepass. You use MS account, which is an xbox account, without a gamer tag. That is how big Xbox ecosystem is.

Then there is xcloud, which works on phones, browsers (which people here ignore this option), Xbox app pc (You just download the app, and you are ready to use it), and xbox consoles. That is alot of users, which xcloud has. All that is left, for MS to make it a separate plan for that service, and it would explode in popularity.

 

[DarkMage619]

Holy cow man ... how can you say this stuff?

Yeah, I will agree that no other ecosystems is doing what Xbox is doing ... hoovering up long standing 3rd parties and removing series from platforms that have enjoyed those games for potentially decades. What is the altruistic spin you're trying to put on this? The PS5 is at least a 50% bigger install base so far than the Series consoles right? If manufacturing gets better, it will likely only further separate itself. The PS5 install base will get to 100+ million almost surely. The Switch install base is over 100 million. It's cool to just cut all those people out? I mean, it doesn't matter to ME because, for example, I bought Skyrim on Xbox, PS AND the Switch, just because. But for people that only have one or the other ... Phil is talking out of both sides of his mouth and you're slurping it up. Seriously man, instead of parroting "everything Xbox, goooood" use your brain and think.

Seems like you are assuming the PS5 will be as successful over the Xbox as the PS4 was despite the significant changes in direction Xbox had taken as a platform. You also seem to ignore that MS doesn't rely solely on console sales to be successful like other platforms. I am not convinced the PS5 will sell over 100M especially with some of the less than positive consumer actions they have taken recently such as digital games being only on their store, $10 'upgrade' fees and higher prices for games generally.

You complaints about Xbox acquiring new studios only affects people who play on PlayStation exclusively. If you play PC, or stream, or if you are willing to grab an inexpensive XSS you are good to go. MS is simply supporting their customers just like Sony was when they money hatted games like Street Fighter and Final Fantasy games that *gasp* were previously on other platforms. They also happen to be IP Sony doesn't even own so they simply paid to deny Xbox gamers access. I'm certain you shed a tear for all those people. At least MS owns the studios and IP and we've seen positive results from that by looking at a title like Psychonauts 2.

Phil has done right by the customers he is working for. There is a reason why actual Xbox customers are happy with his performance. Unhappy PlayStation exclusive gamers should look to Jim 'believe in generations' Ryan to ensure those set of gamers get the value and support they deserve. He can start by dropping the pay wall for cloud saves, allowing normal retailers to sell digital PlayStation games, and let people use PS4 controllers to play PS5 games locally like you can when you remote play the system. That would be a fantastic start. Better backwards compatibility would be a bonus.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Phil is actually is struggling to be coherent now that Jimbo is promising to practice what Phil only preaches with Bungie

The interviewer cornered him pretty well. Now he's more exposed to the FTC.

 

[Zok310]

Phil is actually is struggling to be coherent now that Jimbo is promising to practice what Phil only preaches with Bungie

Right, funny how it’s Jim that’s trying to reach more players. Phil is literally saying one thing and doing the complete opposite. To me Phil has no integrity and at the end of the day the reality or result of his actions always prove him to be a liar.
Can’t wait to see this play out. He will have to go back to Nintendo and Sony by the end of the gen. mS just always find a way to magnificently fuck up their own game plan.

 

[kingfey]

Right, funny how it’s Jim that’s trying to reach more players. Phil is literally saying one thing and doing the complete opposite. To me Phil has no integrity and at the end of the day the reality or result of his actions always prove him to be a liar.
Can’t wait to see this play out. He will have to go back to Nintendo and Sony by the end of the gen. mS just always find a way to magnificently fuck up their own game plan.

I cant take some of you all. Your takes gets crazy every time to a whole new level.

 

[Exanthus]

I cant take some of you all. Your takes gets crazy every time to a whole new level.

half of em also wrote letters to the president to check on that buy out of activision/blizzard

 

[Punished Miku]

Think their network infrastructure can support it?

No idea but we have several frequent posters from Brazil that can answer if they see this.

 

[kingfey]

half of em also wrote letters to the president to check on that buy out of activision/blizzard

People need to realize at this point, gaming is just business. Rich business will simply buy other business. Be a gamer, and buy the console you want to play. Dont attach yourself to these companies.

I might talk about them alot here, but this is gaming forum, and I keep that way. All 3 consoles are with me. I go turn it on, and play on them. I dont let these feelings affect my gaming habits.

 

[lastmessiah]

I see Phil is continuing to make SonyGAF shit bricks .

 

[Warablo]

Oh my gosh guys, he means the mobile and PC market.

 

[yurinka]

Steam alone has 120m user base.
These people think PC is baren land. Hell, PS5 have 17m ps5 users now. Once PS4 is discontinued due, to next gen games, PS wont have those userbase anymore.
PC would still keep those numbers.

PS has 111M MAU, unlike PC almost no piracy, all devices can play high end games and on average games are sold at a higher price. PS is the platform where practically all multiplatform big publishers/AAA games renerate more revenue with AAA games.

 

[SlimySnake]

Phil is actually is struggling to be coherent now that Jimbo is promising to practice what Phil only preaches with Bungie

This was my first thought. He sounds completely incoherent. I have no idea what hes trying to say here, and I am done trying to make sense of it.

I really dont get why he cant just come out and say that he is making his games exclusive because he wants people to buy his consoles. Why is this so hard. You dont spend $80 billion to make friends.

Good to see Kotaku ask some pointed questions. These two suits over at Sony and Microsoft have been saying dumb shit for years and its time they are called out on it. Absolute fucking nonsense. Pure lies and doublespeak. Have some fucking respect for your consumers. The average age of gamers is approaching 40. Dont treat us like kids.

 

[DaGwaphics]

*Potential* Install base.

And if you actually think about it, its not an easy thing to access!

It seems to me that there's a fallacy at the heart of the whole cloud gaming revolution;
Specifically the idea that "the power of the cloud" will massively increase the number of people interested in the product. To which I'd argue that videogames in all their forms are known to everyone already and so the market isn't likely to increase that much. I do not buy there are countless millions out there who would want to play Starfield just because they can stream it to their phones. People who like that sort of title will already have consoles and PC's. To me it makes as little sense as the idea that someone would sign up to Gamepass so they can play the next Candy Crush on their TV's!

The people who play a lot of Skyrim/Starfield and those who play a lot of Candy Crush are just really different too. I just don't see people losing their shit because they can stream-play Halo on their phones... is the idea; they've never seen such a game before and therefore will rush and buy a GP sub?!?

Sorry, but I don't believe for a second. If you want to play a game like that you'd already have a console or a pc.

That is certainly one view. Another is that there are entire message boards and reddit threads dedicated to the discussion of what games are playable on an IGP and what hacks can be made to get games running there that shouldn't. Streaming certainly opens new possibilities for those folks (and the Steam hardware survey suggests there are many and that would be a small fraction), as it does for those that can access directly on a TV. Maybe they have one console and can't justify the purchase of another to themselves, etc.

Important also is the fact that if even the tiniest percentage of the non-console, non-gaming-pc population buy in that could be game changing numbers. And, as yet another reason for companies to push this way, you can solve a lot of problems with lack of supply as most systems in the cloud will get used by multiple people throughout the day.

 

[wolffy71]

As for reaching more people... i use the streaming option for games on gamepass that im not sure if i want to download or not. It works surprisingly well. I'd say most of the time its not noticeable that im streaming the game. Those have all been single players games thus far.

So theres one avenue for wider reach, especially if the have a stick of some sort or native apps on tvs.

 

[odhiex]

As expected. I don't not expect that there will be no Xbox exclusives from those new studios in the future, but yeah expect more multiplatform releases from XGS. There's too much money to be made anyway.

 

[Rex_DX]

Good to see Kotaku ask some pointed questions.

FYI Stephen Totilo works for Axios now.

Kotaku is still the same rag it has been for years.

Also, this interview happened over a week ago. Not sure why it's suddenly newsworthy on GAF.

 

[DaGwaphics]

This was my first thought. He sounds completely incoherent. I have no idea what hes trying to say here, and I am done trying to make sense of it.

I really dont get why he cant just come out and say that he is making his games exclusive because he wants people to buy his consoles. Why is this so hard. You dont spend $80 billion to make friends.

Good to see Kotaku ask some pointed questions. These two suits over at Sony and Microsoft have been saying dumb shit for years and its time they are called out on it. Absolute fucking nonsense. Pure lies and doublespeak. Have some fucking respect for your consumers. The average age of gamers is approaching 40. Dont treat us like kids.

Because consoles are just one piece of a multi-prong approach, they are more than happy to sell you GP on PC, or your TV, or a streaming device, or even a tablet. They don't limit themselves like that.

Plus, he basically says that gamers are "choosing not to play" rather than being unable to play. That says a lot if you aren't squinting real bad to try and find some subtext that fits narrative A, B, or C.

 

[adamsapple]

That is certainly a word salad on Phil's behalf. And it was a long winded way of saying :

Oh my gosh guys, he means the mobile and PC market.

This. Basically.

Starfield may be skipping PS but they're probably banking on it releasing on PC via Windows Store, Steam (maybe even EGS) and the mobile market using x cloud to off set that.

If Forza and Halo are any indication, 18 to 20 million people playing it within a couple of months shouldn't be difficult

 

[Bernd Lauert]

How do people not know what he means? It's very obvious imo. He's talking about xCloud.

 

[Zok310]

That is certainly a word salad on Phil's behalf. And it was a long winded way of saying :





This. Basically.

Starfield may be skipping PS but they're probably banking on it releasing on PC via Windows Store, Steam (maybe even EGS) and the mobile market using x cloud to off set that.

If Forza and Halo are any indication, 18 to 20 million people playing it within a couple of months shouldn't be difficult

What’s the point of putting it on all those platforms only to skip switch and PS5?
It’s such a stupid thing to do considering what he wants to achieve.
Basically saying: I want this to be our best selling game but I’m going to reach that goal the hardest way possible by sabotaging its reach.. in the end tho I will prevail, humph!

 

[adamsapple]

How do people not know what he means? It's very obvious imo. He's talking about xCloud.

To be fair, it's either the way his comments are edited or put in or out of context, they do seem like a weird tangent lol.

This seems less like the transcript of a formal interview and more like how celebrities answer paparazzi questions when they're waiting for the flight to board.

What’s the point of putting it on all those platforms only to skip switch and PS5?
It’s such a stupid thing to do considering what he wants to achieve.
Basically saying: I want this to be our best selling game but I’m going to reach that goal the hardest way possible by sabotaging its reach.. in the end tho I will prevail, humph!

I don't think Switch was ever in contention RE: Starfield, and as for PS5. I mean, Bethesda is MS first party now, they have as much obligation to release games on PS5 as Sony does to release Uncharted 4 on Series X|S.

Other than that, what else is he supposed to say ? that he isn't expecting or hoping Starfield to be successful ?. No one gives a negative outlook to an upcoming game even if its only available on one platform.

 

[LazyParrot]

Steam alone has 120m user base.
These people think PC is baren land. Hell, PS5 have 17m ps5 users now. Once PS4 is discontinued due, to next gen games, PS wont have those userbase anymore.
PC would still keep those numbers.

Yeah, and I’m sure those 120 million Steam users will all magically get hardware upgrades to run all these next gen AAA games, especially now that even entry level budget GPUs cost as much as a console.

 

[Zok310]

To be fair, it's either the way his comments are edited or put in or out of context, they do seem like a weird tangent lol.

This seems less like the transcript of a formal interview and more like how celebrities answer paparazzi questions when they're waiting for the flight to board.




I don't think Switch was ever in contention RE: Starfield, and as for PS5. I mean, Bethesda is MS first party now, they have as much obligation to release games on PS5 as Sony does to release Uncharted 4 on Series X|S.

Other than that, what else is he supposed to say ? that he isn't expecting or hoping Starfield to be successful ?. No one gives a negative outlook to an upcoming game even if its only available on one platform.

Start field was in development for more than one platform, so it’s correct to grill him on how the flying fuck he plans to sell more on only 1 platform when it was already in development for pretty much everything under the sun.
I can’t sit here and even give his reason a chance to get pass my sniff test. There is no way it sells better than their mutiplat games. If he was man enough to just say that I would leave him alone. But he needs to tell the truth, it’s not about reaching as many players as possible, it’s about removing it from as many platforms as possible.

 

[SlimySnake]

Because consoles are just one piece of a multi-prong approach, they are more than happy to sell you GP on PC, or your TV, or a streaming device, or even a tablet. They don't limit themselves like that.

Plus, he basically says that gamers are "choosing not to play" rather than being unable to play. That says a lot if you aren't squinting real bad to try and find some subtext that fits narrative A, B, or C.

Choosing not to play? The choice was taken from them when they bought the PS5 thinking the Bethesda and CoD games had been announced for the PS5. That is basically what the question was. You took the choice from massive portion of the userbase so how you can say that the goal is to have more people play?

I also dont understand how Gamepass being on PC has anything to do with making it accessible to more players. Starfield was already going to be on PC. And if he wants to make it playable on the cloud he didnt need to buy bethesda. There are plenty of third party games on gamepass or xcloud or whatever they call it. He makes $250 million a month from Gamepass. He can certainly afford to spend it all on game whatever month COD or Starfield come out. Thats over 4 million units in first month sales for both COD and Starfield. Zenimax and Activision wouldve taken that money in a heartbeat. There wasnt a need to go spend $80 billion if all he wants to do is to access more players.

 

[adamsapple]

Start field was in development for more than one platform, so it’s correct to grill him on how the flying fuck he plans to sell more on only 1 platform when it was already in development for pretty much everything under the sun.
I can’t sit here and even give his reason a chance to get pass my sniff test. There is no way it sells better than their mutiplat games. If he was man enough to just say that I would leave him alone. But he needs to tell the truth, it’s not about reaching as many players as possible, it’s about removing it from as many platforms as possible.

I'm sorry but what is with this unearned sense of entitlement ?

We know Sony tried to buy Starfield exclusivity for a year or more ala Deathloop and Ghostwire before MS bought Bethesda, if we're ok with things like that without grilling anyone on potentially losing sales from other platforms, we should really have no issue with a first party studio wants to release a game on their first party console only.

He needs to tell the truth that it's removing from as many platforms as possible ? who gives a shit, he's just saying he wants the game to be successful. He can't even say that without being grilled about it or having every word scrutinized now ?

Can you imagine people going into PS5 exclusive game threads and demanding that those games release on Switch because that's where they'll get the most success ? It's a bit of a preposterous idea, no ?

 

[DaGwaphics]

Choosing not to play? The choice was taken from them when they bought the PS5 thinking the Bethesda and CoD games had been announced for the PS5. That is basically what the question was. You took the choice from massive portion of the userbase so how you can say that the goal is to have more people play?

You will literally be able to play the game using your PS5 controller and just about any system with a browser available. If you want to play it but don't, that is you choosing not to play it. The game also was unlikely to come to Xcloud day one before the acquisition, so, the number of people with access day one has increased. As an Xbox player I never had the choice to play TLoU on Xbox either, that was never given to me. However, I was able to access the game on PS4 or PSNow, it is what it is.

 

[Fredrik]

I like Phil because of the enthusiasm and that he actually play games, but he’s always talking in riddles, it’s annoying.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

So, Phil took away games from Playstation, but now is looking into expanding Game Pass service on PC and Mobile, clearly two platforms with a bigger reach than Playstation... so he's not wrong?

Or do people actually think that Playstation is the biggest platform of them all?

 

[Shmunter]

This was my first thought. He sounds completely incoherent. I have no idea what hes trying to say here, and I am done trying to make sense of it.

I really dont get why he cant just come out and say that he is making his games exclusive because he wants people to buy his consoles. Why is this so hard. You dont spend $80 billion to make friends.

Good to see Kotaku ask some pointed questions. These two suits over at Sony and Microsoft have been saying dumb shit for years and its time they are called out on it. Absolute fucking nonsense. Pure lies and doublespeak. Have some fucking respect for your consumers. The average age of gamers is approaching 40. Dont treat us like kids.

People that aren't the sharpest tools in the shed simply think he's a genius and write off not understanding him as something brilliant being said. When all it is, is talking without answering anything at all - the worst kind of politics or car salesmanship.

 

[Zok310]

I'm sorry but what is with this unearned sense of entitlement ?

We know Sony tried to buy Starfield exclusivity for a year or more ala Deathloop and Ghostwire before MS bought Bethesda, if we're ok with things like that without grilling anyone on potentially losing sales from other platforms, we should really have no issue with a first party studio wants to release a game on their first party console only.

He needs to tell the truth that it's removing from as many platforms as possible ? who gives a shit, he's just saying he wants the game to be successful. He can't even say that without being grilled about it or having every word scrutinized now ?

Can you imagine people going into PS5 exclusive game threads and demanding that those games release on Switch because that's where they'll get the most success ? It's a bit of a preposterous idea, no ?

Let’s focus on what Phil just said, don’t dodge his bullshit by changing the topic to Sony exclusivity. No one is talking about Sony. We talking about him saying he wants to sell more by launching on less platforms.
Please explain how this is possible because Phil can’t?

 

[lh032]

No shit phil.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Let’s focus on what Phil just said, don’t dodge his bullshit by changing the topic to Sony exclusivity. No one is talking about Sony. We talking about him saying he wants to sell more by launching on less platforms.
Please explain how this is possible because Phil can’t?

GP removes all barriers to entry for subscribers. The service will certainly provide the game with more players over its lifetime (with players being the actual point referenced). Look at the number of players achieved in less than six months on Halo and FH5.

 

[adamsapple]

Let’s focus on what Phil just said, don’t dodge his bullshit by changing the topic to Sony exclusivity. No one is talking about Sony. We talking about him saying he wants to sell more by launching on less platforms.
Please explain how this is possible because Phil can’t?

He's not really laying down a world class riddle here:

“I love the Forza 5 and Halo stats...I love how many people played Psychonauts 2 vs. Psychonauts 1. "So, when I look at the teams, when Todd and I talk about Starfield, it's: 'How do we make sure this is the most-played Todd Howard game ever?'"

He's using the recent Forza and Halo stats for 18 and 20 million players and using it as reference to how they can make Starfield the most played Todd Howard game.

If Forza and Halo can reach 18 and 20 million in 1 to 2 months, it's sure as shit possible that the next prestige Bethesda game will reach those numbers too.

Nowhere in his statement he's talking about SELLING more. That's just something you've concocted yourself to make a false argument.

He's pushing for things like Game Pass, XCloud and launching on platforms like Steam on day and date to meet those player numbers.

 

[Zok310]

He's not really laying down a world class riddle here:



He's using the recent Forza and Halo stats for 18 and 20 million players and using it as reference to how they can make Starfield the most played Todd Howard game.

If Forza and Halo can reach 18 and 20 million in 1 to 2 months, it's sure as shit possible that the next prestige Bethesda game will reach those numbers too.

Nowhere in his statement he's talking about SELLING more. He's pushing for things like Game Pass, XCloud and launching on platforms like Steam on day and date to meet those player numbers.

Right back where we started. Let me ask you, if you was Phil and you want as many players as possible what would you do?

 

[DaGwaphics]

Right back where we started. Let me ask you, if you was Phil and you want as many players as possible what would you do?

Exactly what I did on Halo and FH5, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

He's not really laying down a world class riddle here:



He's using the recent Forza and Halo stats for 18 and 20 million players and using it as reference to how they can make Starfield the most played Todd Howard game.

If Forza and Halo can reach 18 and 20 million in 1 to 2 months, it's sure as shit possible that the next prestige Bethesda game will reach those numbers too.

Nowhere in his statement he's talking about SELLING more. That's just something you've concocted yourself to make a false argument.

He's pushing for things like Game Pass, XCloud and launching on platforms like Steam on day and date to meet those player numbers.

He could have done that without buying Bethesda and removing it from PS5

Just buy it for day 1 on GamePass while still letting it release on ps5

Problem solved, most played Todd Howard game ever, but clearly there’s other motives here he’s completely ignoring just so he can talk in Mumbo jumbo political doublespeak

 

[DaGwaphics]

He could have done that without buying Bethesda and removing it from PS5

Just buy it for day 1 on GamePass while still letting it release on ps5

Problem solved, most played Todd Howard game ever

True. But, it's a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run to get them all up front at cost.

 

[adamsapple]

He could have done that without buying Bethesda.

Just buy it for day 1 on GamePass while still letting it release on ps5

Problem solved, most played Todd Howard game ever

And Sony didn't need to buy Bungie, Nixxess, Ready at Dawn, Insomniac, Bend etc etc .

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

True. But, it's a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run to get them all up front at cost.

Maybe, maybe not.

But the fact remains he could have still let it release on PS5 while having the day 1 GamePass advantage

 

[adamsapple]

Right back where we started. Let me ask you, if you was Phil and you want as many players as possible what would you do?

First, never take advise from gaming forums.

Second, continue the course cause it seems to be working out. Game Pass is gaining good numbers every fiscal, games still chart great even after being available on GP and generally it seems like the studios are happy working in their current environment.

Maybe, maybe not.

But the fact remains he could have still let it release on PS5 while having the day 1 GamePass advantage

They could have, but it's their first party so they chose not to and they're going to use the same tested formula that made Infinite and Horizon 5 a success to try and get Starfield to be a success.

Everyone's happy, well almost everyone.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

And Sony didn't need to buy Bungie, Nixxess, Ready at Dawn, Insomniac, Bend etc etc .

This isn’t a thread about what Sony is doing, but yeah…bad guy Sony removing Destiny from Xbox…whoops

 

[Zok310]

And Sony didn't need to buy Bungie, Nixxess, Ready at Dawn, Insomniac, Bend etc etc .

Bad example, one company ported games the rest pretty much made 99% of their games on PS for over 2 decades.

 

[Shmunter]

Exactly what I did on Halo and FH5, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

So leave all newly acquired IP on Sony? Maybe.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

First, never take advise from gaming forums.

Second, continue the course cause it seems to be working out. Game Pass is gaining good numbers every fiscal, games still chart great even after being available on GP and generally it seems like the studios are happy working in their current environment.




They could have, but it's their first party so they chose not to and they're going to use the same tested formula that made Infinite and Horizon 5 a success to try and get Starfield to be a success.

Everyone's happy, well almost everyone.

Yes and by doing that, Phil is not achieving his goal of most users playing Bethesda games, which goes against what he’s saying in this interview

So he’s clearly not being honest when answering the question

 

[adamsapple]

This isn’t a thread about what Sony is doing, but yeah…bad guy Sony removing Destiny from Xbox…whoops

Destiny is already out on Xbox, if they removed an already existing game then yeah that would be a pretty bad guy move, you're right.

Bad example, one company ported games the rest pretty much made 99% of their games on PS for over 2 decades.

And now Bethesda will make 99% of their games for Xbox and PC going forward.

Not sure why there's an expectation to have MS release games on a competing platform.

Yes and by doing that, Phil is not achieving his goal of most users playing Bethesda games, which goes against what he’s saying in this interview

So he’s clearly not being honest when answering the question

We literally can't say this for certain until the game has been out for a while to see how many people have played it. Literally we can't.

 

[Zok310]

First, never take advise from gaming forums.

Second, continue the course cause it seems to be working out. Game Pass is gaining good numbers every fiscal, games still chart great even after being available on GP and generally it seems like the studios are happy working in their current environment.




They could have, but it's their first party so they chose not to and they're going to use the same tested formula that made Infinite and Horizon 5 a success to try and get Starfield to be a success.

Everyone's happy, well almost everyone.

Fair enough.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Destiny is already out on Xbox, if they removed an already existing game then yeah that would be a pretty bad guy move, you're right.


And now Bethesda will make 99% of their games for Xbox and PC going forward.

Not sure why there's an expectation to have MS release games on a competing platform.

They are also not removing future IP

It’s not just about Destiny

Totally different situations