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ND advertise more jobs, cryptic exchange between Neil and Bend design manager about NDA's

cormack12

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Naughty Dog sent out Febs adverts for their projects which they do every now and again. They are advertising 68 jobs across 3 new developments. But I stumbled across this exchange in the chain

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Eric Jensen

About Eric​

Mentor of Game Design​

Eric is a Design Manager at PlayStation's Bend Studio, where he has worked for the last 16 years. He has worked his way up from QA and has had his hands in just about everything from asset management, localization, motion capture and cinematics, to a wide variety of design roles.
Most recently, he was the Lead Open World Designer on Days Gone, where he worked on all the open world systems, population, missions, and more. He is excited to share his journey and knowledge he has gained with others.

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Obviously there were the rumours around Bend assisting with TLOU I remake but then it was moved to another studio, so it does look like there is some partnerships there, or at least an NDA spanning the same thing they are working on? Let us rumourise

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Lupin25

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This could mean anything for ND with at least 3-4 projects in the works.

…We do know they’re going to milk the shit out of the TLOU universe soon when the series, Factions II, TLOU Re, & TLOU2 are all bundled together as one for Xmas :messenger_face_screaming:
 
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Bend started the Uncharted remake right? That Bloomberg article mentioned that i think...they were uncertain what had happened to it.

Watch Naughty Dog doing not only Factions, TLOU remake, TLOU 2 Director's Cut but also a new Uncharted, plus a new IP. Factions and the remake are probably releasing this year's fall. Director's Cut is probably done as well, waiting for the other 2 TLOU projects to be complete. That means they could work on a new Uncharted and a new IP at the same time.
 

VFXVeteran

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ND really only puts out 1 game per generation. Even if they have several projects in development, they will take their time on 1 project. Aside from TLOU remakes, I would assume we'll see 1 original IP this generation. After that game releases, we'll be looking forward to next-next-gen.
 

Elios83

Member
Actually Neil has confirmed they have 3 games in development:



One is pretty much confirmed and it's the multiplayer game with a strong story.
The second according to Jason Schreier is the TLOU remake but it has to be confirmed if it actually exists and it's developed by ND.
The third one is either a new IP or a next gen Uncharted.
 

Hobbygaming

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ND really only puts out 1 game per generation. Even if they have several projects in development, they will take their time on 1 project. Aside from TLOU remakes, I would assume we'll see 1 original IP this generation. After that game releases, we'll be looking forward to next-next-gen.
They put out 3 games last generation and before that, they released a game usually every 2 years

Uncharted 4: 2016
Uncharted Lost Legacy: 2017
TLOU Part II: 2020
 

Punished Miku

Gold Member
No, it has never been the case. Unless you meant 1 new IP?
It's honestly a bit of a derail in this thread, but he means in terms of graphical tech.

Their only real advancement last gen was Uncharted 4. Then they put out Lost Legacy which is at about the same level. And Last of Us 2 which is at about the same level, even down to the same Uncharted 4 rope physics being used for puzzles.

He's basically just saying that this is how they can make games so quickly. Whatever their new IP is will likely be the big advancement. Stuff like TLOU1 remake and factions will probably be around the same level as TLOU2 tech/graphically.
 
It's honestly a bit of a derail in this thread, but he means in terms of graphical tech.

Their only real advancement last gen was Uncharted 4. Then they put out Lost Legacy which is at about the same level. And Last of Us 2 which is at about the same level, even down to the same Uncharted 4 rope physics being used for puzzles.

He's basically just saying that this is how they can make games so quickly. Whatever their new IP is will likely be the big advancement. Stuff like TLOU1 remake and factions will probably be around the same level as TLOU2 tech/graphically.

That's how it normally goes for all developers, so I honestly fail to see the point of that comment...
 

isoRhythm

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It's honestly a bit of a derail in this thread, but he means in terms of graphical tech.

Their only real advancement last gen was Uncharted 4. Then they put out Lost Legacy which is at about the same level. And Last of Us 2 which is at about the same level, even down to the same Uncharted 4 rope physics being used for puzzles.

He's basically just saying that this is how they can make games so quickly. Whatever their new IP is will likely be the big advancement. Stuff like TLOU1 remake and factions will probably be around the same level as TLOU2 tech/graphically.
Wtf are you guys talking about? Does a game have to be remade from the ground up for every release? By that logic are any developers making more than "1 game" per generation? Have 343i and DICE released a "negative" amount of games because their latest entries are technically inferior to their previous games?
 

Hobbygaming

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It's honestly a bit of a derail in this thread, but he means in terms of graphical tech.

Their only real advancement last gen was Uncharted 4. Then they put out Lost Legacy which is at about the same level. And Last of Us 2 which is at about the same level, even down to the same Uncharted 4 rope physics being used for puzzles.

He's basically just saying that this is how they can make games so quickly. Whatever their new IP is will likely be the big advancement. Stuff like TLOU1 remake and factions will probably be around the same level as TLOU2 tech/graphically.
I don't think that's what he meant but maybe he can clarify
 

VFXVeteran

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They put out 3 games last generation and before that, they released a game usually every 2 years

Uncharted 4: 2016
Uncharted Lost Legacy: 2017
TLOU Part II: 2020
Uncharted 4 and TLOU 2 are original titles. LL is sort of a DLC imo.

I'll agree with 2 titles but they are doing remakes right now - which is taking time from making original titles. I still stand by 1 original IP title being made this generation before the next one comes online. If I'm wrong, so be it.
 
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kyliethicc

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Uncharted 4 and TLOU 2 are original titles. LL is sort of a DLC imo.

I'll agree with 2 titles but they are doing remakes right now - which is taking time from making original titles. I still stand by 1 original IP title being made this generation before the next one comes online. If I'm wrong, so be it.
Lost Legacy is not DLC. Its the same length as Uncharted Drake's Fortune and has way higher production values in literally every aspect.

And it introduced new design, new mechanics, and new characters to Uncharted. Its Uncharted 5.
 

yurinka

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Obviously there were the rumours around Bend assisting with TLOU I remake but then it was moved to another studio, so it does look like there is some partnerships there, or at least an NDA spanning the same thing they are working on? Let us rumourise
Bend started the Uncharted remake right?
No, there aren't any rumors involving Bend in the TLOU remake. Bend isn't related to this remake at all.

The TLOU remake was a pitch of the new team at Sony San Diego that were a bunch of Sony Visual Arts Service Group (animations & CG support team that helps in this area most Sony -and even people from other companies- games) who did want to be the lead team on their own projects instead of being a support team. They started to develop the remake with ND overviewing them, providing material and small support.

After that Hermen Hulst was promoted to his current role, didn't like the remake and thought they were spending too much money on it, so asked them to reverse the roles: ND would take the lead of the project to complete it with normal budget using people free from TLOU2 work that were waititng to be assigned to an upcoming big ND project, and this Sony VASG team would go back to their support role for this game.

Regarding to the relationship between ND and Bend, ND and Bend have been helping each other in projects leaded by one or the other studio. When one of he studio had a production peak and needed help, the other team helps them if they have people free waiting to be assigned to the next big project from their own studio. Plus also codeveloped games.

According to Bloomberg -who often lies and spreads fud when talking about Sony- the most recent cases of this was that after the Days Gone release, until the next main Bend got greenlighted, people from Bend did help ND with the upcoming TLOU MP game, and later also was codeveloping an Uncharted spinoff with ND until Bend got greenlighted their next main proyect: the upcoming Bend new IP. Bend stopped working on that spin-off to focus on the new IP. Bloomberg didn't know if thte spin-off got cancelled or if Sony continues working on it elsewhere (maybe at ND?).

I think that in his tweet Eric was only teasing/joking about the TLOU MP game or the Uncharted spin-off, and that Cuckmann was also joking when saying the NDA stuff, he knew Eric wasn't going to leak anything. Or who knows, maybe I'm totally wrong and Neil wanted to torture and kill him for being a relevant white straight male who uses he/him as pronouns.

The third one is either a new IP or a next gen Uncharted.
Or maybe the PS5 version of TLOU2, or Uncharted Legacy of Thieves Collection.

ND really only puts out 1 game per generation. Even if they have several projects in development, they will take their time on 1 project. Aside from TLOU remakes, I would assume we'll see 1 original IP this generation. After that game releases, we'll be looking forward to next-next-gen.
Totally wrong.

PS3 games:
-Uncharted
-Unchared 2
-Uncharted 3
-Uncharted card game (don't remember is name)
-TLOU

PS Vita games:
-Uncharted Golden Abyss (developed by Bend with ND overviewing and supporting)

PS4 games:
-TLOU Remastered
-TLOU 2
-Uncharted Nathan Drake Collection (1+2+3 remastered, in collaboration with Bluepoint)
-Uncharted 4
-Uncharted Lost White Male Protagonist Legacy
-(pretty likely crossgen) TLOU2 MP game

PS5 games:
-Uncharted Legacy of Thieves Collection (4+LL remastered & PC port, in collaboration with Iron Galaxy)
-TLOU2 MP game
-TLOU remake, pretty likely bundled with TLOU2 remastered (in collaboration with Sony VASG/new San Diego Team)
-Uncharted spin-off that according to the Bloomberg liers were codeveloping with Bend, unless they cancelled it when Bend got their new IP greenlighted and left the spin-off to focus on the new IP instead
-Other possible upcoming or future projects as could be a new IP, TLOU 3 or Uncharted 5, or even a refurbished Nathan Drake Collection PS5+PC version

Like the other PS Studios teams they have been growing a lot and will continue growing (notice they have 68 open job positions for 3 projects), so will be able to work on more games at the same time than before. Plus now Sony bought studios who make remakes, pc ports and support studios, so they will be able to delegate a bigger part of these related tasks to them, and on top of that other teams like Bend that got help from ND in some projects will be also growing, so will need less help from ND. So ND will be able to focus more on their own games and to release more stuff.


Lost Legacy is not DLC. Its the same length as Uncharted Drake's Fortune and has way higher production values in literally every aspect.

And it introduced new design, new mechanics, and new characters to Uncharted.
I 100% agree.
Its Uncharted 5.
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assurdum

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Uncharted 4 and TLOU 2 are original titles. LL is sort of a DLC imo.

I'll agree with 2 titles but they are doing remakes right now - which is taking time from making original titles. I still stand by 1 original IP title being made this generation before the next one comes online. If I'm wrong, so be it.
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Concern

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Why do yall keep doing this? It's BORING!!!!


Its not supposed to be entertaining. Its pretty much understood by anyone with common sense after the Neil took over and Amy left.

Can pretend like its not true but it doesn't make it any less true.
 

Tripolygon

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if you look at their historical job postings the list has gotten so big its hilarious, they're clearly looking to get way bigger.
All Sony studios have been in an expansion phase in the last couple of years. I think from here on out we would be seeing more frequent releases from their internal studios if the development goes smoothly. Guerilla in particular announced their plans for 400 permanent developers to help release games every 2 to 3 years.
 

mckmas8808

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Its not supposed to be entertaining. Its pretty much understood by anyone with common sense after the Neil took over and Amy left.

Can pretend like its not true but it doesn't make it any less true.

Yes, their direction of their games changed some. But you guys make "EVERYTHING" into woke this and woke that. And everything "woke" to some of yall is like the most evil thing of all time. That's.......the part that's boring (boring as in having good conversations about video games).
 

mckmas8808

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All Sony studios have been in an expansion phase in the last couple of years. I think from here on out we would be seeing more frequent releases from their internal studios if the development goes smoothly. Guerilla in particular announced their plans for 400 permanent developers to help release games every 2 to 3 years.

Some of this new hiring I'm 99% convinced is for PSVR2 games also.
 
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This is what I can see ND releasing this gen:
- Factions
- The Last of Us Remake
- New IP
- Another game towards the last year of the generation
 

Dr Bass

Member
I hate this TLOU remake rumor. What a waste of time and resources. Why are they so obsessed with that game? We had the release, the remaster and now rumors of a remake? Let it go people.
 

Alebrije

Member
ND needs at.least a new IP , 2 would be fine.

Uncharted has fuel for PS5 but not for PS6...

TLOU has as much 2 games with Ellie...if they manage to create a new great character with new story they could extend te game more.

ND surely will deliver something new by 23-24
 

Azurro

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Uncharted 4 and TLOU 2 are original titles. LL is sort of a DLC imo.

I'll agree with 2 titles but they are doing remakes right now - which is taking time from making original titles. I still stand by 1 original IP title being made this generation before the next one comes online. If I'm wrong, so be it.

That's not what you said, you said 1 game, and that hasn't been true before in the past either.

Then again, you are the guy that thinks that biomutant has the best fur. You never get tired of digging do you?
 
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