Swift_Star
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I think this is cool.
But it is pandering.
The time is the present to a lot of people, sadly. You make the default character type a woman and its "pandering", too. It's annoying.I just spent an hour and a half beating the speed trap at the start. It's a good place to learn controls and speed management if, like me, you play with your finger full on the gas in every race.
I remember there was a time when including non-white options in a character creator was "pandering."
. . . and honestly, who cares? As far as I can see this has zero impact on another players experience. So what if MS did the absolute bare minimum to give non-binary players a sense of inclusion? The game is still the same.
Where's my attack heli you bigot?Do it right, Microsoft
I fucking LOVE how these kind of threads trigger people. I hope one day a AAA game has a character create mode that has different gayness levels based on various traits:
Dan Levy, Adam Lambert <----------------> Ricky Martin, Ian McKellan
Ellen DeGeneres, Megan Rapino <----------------> Cara Delevigne, Jameela Jamil
I'd buy it just to spite the haters. Shit I've never owned an Xbox and I'd buy Forza 5 just because.
Weird in what way exactly? Affecting the way we are expected to refer to males and females as they/them? Fuck is that shit? Just because you have issues and want people to refer to you as some bullshit doesn't mean we have to accept it in real life. Funny how when a game shows boobs certain sections of the fandom get upset with glorifying women yet this made up bullshit is acceptable because a very tiny % want to be known by something other than male/female? Fuck off with this shit. You wanna use pronouns, go ahead. Just don't expect me to fucking conform. And I don't want it forced upon me in video games. Some don't want boobs and asses. I don't want this fucking SJW/woke bullshit.People upset ITT over stuff that doesn't affect them is sooooooooo weird.
Because I don't care how people want to be called or regonized as it's petty and childish to get triggered about this. It's not my life and not my problem. If a person wants to be called they, it, he or she is not my problem at all. Sorry, I'm not a kid who worry about petty stuff.Weird in what way exactly? Affecting the way we are expected to refer to males and females as they/them? Fuck is that shit? Just because you have issues and want people to refer to you as some bullshit doesn't mean we have to accept it in real life. Funny how when a game shows boobs certain sections of the fandom get upset with glorifying women yet this made up bullshit is acceptable because a very tiny % want to be known by something other than male/female? Fuck off with this shit. You wanna use pronouns, go ahead. Just don't expect me to fucking conform. And I don't want it forced upon me in video games. Some don't want boobs and asses. I don't want this fucking SJW/woke bullshit.
I'm happy for anyone to be called what they want- just not by me. Unfortunately putting it in a Forza game now normalizes it and it's there to cater for people who really don't play games! This is to appease those retards over at Resetera who would be so excited over this i'm sure they ALL went out to buy a copy of this game in support...Because I don't care how people want to be called or regonized as it's petty and childish to get triggered about this. It's not my life and not my problem. If a person wants to be called they, it, he or she is not my problem at all. Sorry, I'm not a kid who worry about petty stuff.
who really cares as long as you have the option to make your character whatever you want it to be? This stuff is all such a non issue.I mean options are cool but will it not just be a never ending slippery slope with requests for every gender possible?
These issues affect all of us because they shape the society that we live in. There is also tremendous harm being done to young people by this gender bullshit; a decent member of society has a responsibility to care about things that harm others, particularly the young or vulnerable. 'Blah blah doesn't affect me' is a shitty attitude.People upset ITT over stuff that doesn't affect them is sooooooooo weird.
Yep, i mean people can identify as a gay Klingon jedi from the planet Vulcan for me, but dont then expect me, and society as a whole, to just accept that, and then 'cancel' anyone who doesnt, or make it a hate crime (which is already happening with some of this stuff in the UK).I'm happy for anyone to be called what they want- just not by me. Unfortunately putting it in a Forza game now normalizes it and it's there to cater for people who really don't play games! This is to appease those retards over at Resetera who would be so excited over this i'm sure they ALL went out to buy a copy of this game in support...
This is just a try hard move by microsoft to appease to the lowest form of scum. I don't want my kids to be referring to people with 10's of 100's of different pronouns, just because they "feel" like being something different today. Get the fuck outta here with that deranged bullshit.
Imagine you have a person that wants to be called it or they. Now imagine you call them he or she. Do you see how it becomes your problem?Because I don't care how people want to be called or regonized as it's petty and childish to get triggered about this. It's not my life and not my problem. If a person wants to be called they, it, he or she is not my problem at all. Sorry, I'm not a kid who worry about petty stuff.
I agree to an extent, but you also need to choose your battles. Public school indoctrinating our children into this nonsense ideology? That's when you fight back. But the nonbinary stuff in FH5 causes relatively little harm. Mock it and move along. And don't let it keep you from enjoying what is a really fantastic game.Nothing good will come from normalizing and promoting this bullshit.
This. Why the fuck do people care? Some people care and it means something to them, and it doesn't affect anybody in a stable frame of mind at all at the opposite end.Who cares?
I remember there was a time when including non-white options in a character creator was "pandering."
Corporate activism is the worst and it’s all damage control so that they’re not cancelled on Twitter by whatever mob. It’s normal that there’s pushback because it’s ending up with people announcing their pronouns at the start of meetings as we can see from the Microsoft conference.Yep, i mean people can identify as a gay Klingon jedi from the planet Vulcan for me, but dont then expect me, and society as a whole, to just accept that, and then 'cancel' anyone who doesnt, or make it a hate crime (which is already happening with some of this stuff in the UK).
Plus its all pandering for brownie points with the Twitter loons, and Ree, etc. Does anyone really think all these devs, and these mega corporations suddenly 'woke up' 5 years ago and are all amazing human beings now that love this shit?.
Dont be nieve people.
If someone calls me "she" I just politely correct them. There is no problem.Imagine you have a person that wants to be called it or they. Now imagine you call them he or she. Do you see how it becomes your problem?
Did you guys see the Ignite conference? Microsoft is going easy on us with Forza Horizon 5.
Kudos for them adding in customisation
Doesn’t really do anything for me but if it makes people happy then that’s good
Did you guys see the Ignite conference? Microsoft is going easy on us with Forza Horizon 5.
This. It'll never stop until everyone is a grey blob with a 'xe/xir pronouns'.If I had to guess it's because these users love gaming and they are afraid wokeness/PC culture will ruin gaming like it did the comic book industry and like it's currently doing to other forms of entertainment. Sure this is just a harmless option but you're naive if you think it just stops here. You give these people an inch and they will take a mile, we all know this.
Hang in there. I’m gay and considered Woke on GAF and this shit makes me want to quit my job and live in the woods eating berries until I starve to death.This CAN'T BE REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why oh god why?!?! And I'm what most of you would consider "woke" and this is the 2nd worse thing I've ever heard all year. Makes me want to throw up.
Did you guys see the Ignite conference? Microsoft is going easy on us with Forza Horizon 5.
Did you guys see the Ignite conference? Microsoft is going easy on us with Forza Horizon 5.
In what way do we ONLY need to feel about this, though? ;dThis CAN'T BE REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why oh god why?!?! And I'm what most of you would consider "woke" and this is the 2nd worse thing I've ever heard all year. Makes me want to throw up.
What? No there wasn't because there are whole continents worth of people with dark skin since the beginning of time!
Please. Do not conflate immutable characteristics with ideological constructs.
Seriously you'd have to be living under a rock for the last few years to fail to recognize the political dimension! However unwittingly one is to get into their usage, its undeniable that any game offering 3 pronouns is planting a flag firmly on a side in terms of the ongoing cultural debate over gender identification and compelled speech.
I actually shudder a little when i think what the world could be like in 20 or 30 years.
All the power to you my dude!If someone calls me "she" I just politely correct them. There is no problem.
Well, when they don't put a gender option in the game some people are affected by and go cry on internet, why wouldn't the opposite affect ppl too?People upset ITT over stuff that doesn't affect them is sooooooooo weird.
Literally what gender is. And no, I have no interest in arguing this point further.
That 3080 is going to fly, I got a 2080 Super in my other PC here and its hooked up to a monitor with 144hz refresh rate. With all settings maxed I was hitting like 80-90 frames per second in 1440P, and going above 100 with the MSAA turned down to 2x with all settings on ultra. CPU in that one is a 5600xLooks beautiful! but really off topic.
I wonder how my 3080 will hold up.
It's funny to have gender associated to a game that has basically no story and your character is a generic soulless creature - They/Them should be the only option for Forza since you're basically a robot.
Sending you DM.As someone who doesnt know all the ins and outs of this lunacy, can someone explain what the telling people what hair colour, if they have a beard, and what they are fucking wearing is supposed to mean?
Are you legitimately arguing that games have always represented the diversity of their playerbase when allowing avatar customization? Really. Really?
Literally what gender is. And no, I have no interest in arguing this point further.
How is PG/MS compelling your speech in FH5? By forcing you to choose a representation. . .that aligns with your own perspective as close as possible? The tyranny of it all!
I actually shudder a little when i think what the world could be like in 20 or 30 years.
I was actually going to say earlier that the world needs somehting like an asteroid strike, not extinction level, but something that is going to wake the world up from this lunacy and to what is important, not this nonsense.
We are long overdue some hard times. Anyone who thinks covid is bad and struggled to cope hasn't seen shit yet. When climate change takes hold it will weed out the very people who are screaming the loudest at the moment to try and stop it. Glorious irony.
Only if that person corrects me and I keep using the wrong pronoun. Now why would I do this? Most people (irl, forget era) will not come for you if you misgender them because they know you're not obligated to know what they want to be called. But of they tell you and you insisting on the contrary, it's on you.Imagine you have a person that wants to be called it or they. Now imagine you call them he or she. Do you see how it becomes your problem?