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Brazilian Playstion fans are getting mad at Sonys lack of regional pricing.
JLB
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Nope. Those are the regular prices on the respective stores. If I consider the standard 20% off of all games currently on gamepass then the game is 17 times more expensive.
Faithless83
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Fake
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Yes because internet on Brazil is the best of the world.
The Shepard
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I told you in my original post I get psn credit far cheaper than xbox store credit. Shopto, cd keys, eneba, all have psn credit cheaper than xbox credit so I get my digital games cheaper by default. If a games 60 I usually pay 50 at launch on psn, xbox is literally the full 60.
Let's look at the quality of this week's xbox sale
Vs the one on PlayStation
Ever since gamepass has took off the xbox sales have been getting worse and worse.
Cyber_hunter026
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Another thread to put on ignore just like op is on my ignore list 
Blond
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Windows is trash and is looking more and more like 90s adware that would install itself on your computer.
All their software is turning into endless subscriptions
PC hardware prices are insane as now you’re spending the cost of a Xbox for an entry level GPU
Xbox is infested with DRM disguised as features
Go FreeBSD, MacOS, Linux if you really want to vote with your wallet.
Indie devs need to make good games first. Every indie game I’ve played the only two I’ve liked are Void Bastards and Binding of Isaac. All of them look and play like rip offs of superior games I played when I was kid and I’m not spending 40 dollars on a Metroid imitation
in short: Socialist taxes implemented in the last half of a century - which generally only revert in corruption.
In latin america, the relevant market for VG's is not official but made by illegal importation in an attempt to escape these insane fees.
edit: The drama with Sony is that - apparently for no reason - they are adding extra fees!
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longdi
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Imo, consumers should band together and disregard those who treat us like sheeps to slaughter.
Arenafighter
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It's easy "switch" 
Plantoid
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Actually I have 2gbps fiber for 249,99 (that's 49us dollars)
Aion002
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I know that there are many parts of Brazil that doesn't have access to acceptable internet (some don't even have access to treated water... It is an developing country after all with many issues), but... For those who have any Vivo or Claro(Net) internet with at least 50 mbps, Game Pass is great option, specially considering how much it cost. For the price of one Demon's Souls or Returnal game, a gamer gets so many games, it's kinda no-brainer for anyone that wants to save money.
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Argentina is the cheapest country on Xbox Store and Steam.
It's shit, but it has gotten way better over the years and brazilians are the biggest time spenders on the internet, we used to download 4-5GB games back in 06-07 with a 256kbps connection. Gamepass is no hurdle as you download games.
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Sounds like an issue with regional taxes etc...
Sony had a similar issue with the PS4
here's the article...sounds like a pain
Sony Explains Why Its PlayStation 4 Costs $1,845 In Brazil
The steep cost isn't a case of price-gouging, the company says, but a sign of Brazil's heavy taxes and fees on imported electronics. Prospective customers say it could be cheaper to fly to the U.S. to buy the game console.www.npr.org
Bullshit from Sony, back when the dollar was cheap people were importing stuff all round because it was cheaper than buying from stores and even paying the taxes were still cheaper if you got taxed, the PS4 was sold in the grey market for like 2.5k reais at the launch, the locally built Xbox One was the same price of even lower because Microsoft stuff always were sold at lower price than the MSRP here.
Sony always treat us like dogshit when it comes to a new console, i remember that back in 09 when they came in they brought ps2, 3 and their games for much more than even your average expensive store was selling for, Microsoft is the only one who ever cared about us after the downfall of SEGA-Tectoy. The 4K price on the PS4 was such a joke that most people bought the Xbox on the first year, then they released the PS4 Pro as a fully imported system for the same price, but the Xbox One X also came in for 4K price and it was also imported, 100 dollars more expensive worldwide and at this point we had much higher dollar conversion rate. New releases on Xbox Store with exception of AAA companies enforcing price parity are cheaper.
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MastaKiiLA
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Stop buying games, and the prices will drop. It's simple economics. Expecting corporations to ignore the basic tenets of economics, out of sheer good will, is foolhardy.
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Osaka_Boss
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It is purely SONY's greed. I think most people outside US can relate to this. To you guys, a 5 dollar increase is nothing, but the impact it takes in the rest of the world for sh*t ass companies pricing like SONY is gigantic. Like, prices get really prohibitive.
They are even worse than Nintendo rn in some countries, who would've thought? They even readjusted the prices on the ps3 store. THE F* PS3 STORE. Dude...
They are even worse than Nintendo rn in some countries, who would've thought? They even readjusted the prices on the ps3 store. THE F* PS3 STORE. Dude...
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Javthusiast
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I am also mad that while games in the us went up to 70, here in germany they went up to 80€. 70€ converted to dollars was already more than 70$.
These companies don't give a shit about regional pricing. And never have.
These companies don't give a shit about regional pricing. And never have.
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SantaC
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How do you important something digital?
Fbh
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Can relate.
Ps4/5 and Switch do easily have the most expensive software here too (Chile).
On PC every major store offers regional pricing (Sony games included) and on Xbox you've got Gamepass.
Once you add the fluctuation in exchange rate over the past 10 years Ps5 games are now literally twice as expensive as early PS4 games.
Sony is even scalping their own console here. Ps5 is $150 mor expensive than the Series X for no real reason.
They are selling the Ps5 for $730 before tax (which comes to around $900 after tax). Not scalpers or retail stores taking advantage, that's the official Sony price
Ps4/5 and Switch do easily have the most expensive software here too (Chile).
On PC every major store offers regional pricing (Sony games included) and on Xbox you've got Gamepass.
Once you add the fluctuation in exchange rate over the past 10 years Ps5 games are now literally twice as expensive as early PS4 games.
Sony is even scalping their own console here. Ps5 is $150 mor expensive than the Series X for no real reason.
They are selling the Ps5 for $730 before tax (which comes to around $900 after tax). Not scalpers or retail stores taking advantage, that's the official Sony price
Zeroing
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I’m Portuguese from Portugal! Not saying Sony is not to blame but Brazilians should be angry at their government who puts really huge taxes on “luxury” goods, meaning almost everything.
also in Europe the conversion sucks not for us gamers but as buyers, for example, here in Portugal, apple is selling their 1200 dollars iMac at 1400 euros!
all of this is messed up and is not just one company doing it!
also in Europe the conversion sucks not for us gamers but as buyers, for example, here in Portugal, apple is selling their 1200 dollars iMac at 1400 euros!
all of this is messed up and is not just one company doing it!
Zeroing
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Brazil taxes everything that is views as luxury! If you have a factory in Brazil they ease the taxes. Microsoft has infrastructure there, Sony also had to build a factory so that PS4 were cheaper there. Taxes agreements also go into software.
I know it sounds ridiculous but that’s how things are there. My aunt kept telling me how things there are just absurd, she’s Brazilian.
Fake
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I live here in Brazil. Even in places like Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo, is not good internet overall. So, always online never work here.
Everything here sucks. Games price, internet, and mainly Nintendo 'non existence'. I can't even believe how can someone be a brazillian and a Nitendo fanboy at the same time, but anw.
Is trash dude. No way you guys get this or try to spin. The speed is not good, the quality is even worst. I worked at Embratel (now Embratel&Claro) and I know very well the internet here is a living hell.
Just for you get an ideia, last weekend Claro was in maintaince here in my place, so saturday and sunday without internet in the whole block. Just 4G for emergency.
Thats why 'always online' games never work on countries like Brazil.
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MaKTaiL
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That would probably backfire here. Sony is likely to abandon Brazilian market altogether if it is not profitable enough. They've already done it with their other departments. Playstation is the only one remaining.
Aion002
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Yes, Brazilian laws and government sucks... But, the thread is more about the difference between Microsoft and Sony prices in Brazil.
Sony is greedy as fuck in Brazil... Always has been.
I am lucky, I always lived in downtown and close to a Vivo office, so the internet was never an issue. But yeah... Some of my friends still don't have access to fiber, even though they live in big cities.
But even though, game pass doesn't need always on, you can download the games and play offline (as long as the console is activated on the account)... So even if the service is unstable, you can use it. I have a friend that has to use 4g... He has a vivo box, because there's nothing else that works at his home and he can still use game pass. It does takesa day or two to download a game... But what else he can do.
Again, I am not saying that is perfect... But it's an option.
Now Nintendo fans In Brazil...
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Zeroing
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Microsoft had a term long agreement with the government for tax relaxation. I remember watching about that some years ago on the Brazilian channel. Also Sony have to build a factory there to cheapen the consoles but they closed it. Could be related to that not sure.
SlimeGooGoo
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Zeroing
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It was a typo it happens
Fredrik
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Digital:849kr is ~100$
Physical is 499kr which is 350kr cheaper.
350kr is ~40$
Yeah it sucks. Especially since I refuse to buy physical as long as I still need the disc to start an already installed game.
It’s not much different on Xbox though:
Sony has kinda showed that 800kr is okay now. Microsoft still sell their standard editions for 649kr but the real deal right now is Gamepass and I’m using that to the fullest; Prepaid until 2024 at ~50kr/month. This is where I do most of my gaming. PC and Xbox. Then I use PS5 for exclusives only.
DeepEnigma
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Especially two to a moto. In flip flops.
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celsowmbr
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There is more Direct correlation inside your cú
cormack12
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Spoken like a true angry Brazilian.
TheDreadLord
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Yeah, but then the solution is just to add up number and not adjusting the profit margin to reach more people? I mean, Sony and games in general are not regarded as Apple products that can cost whatever Apple wants and people still buy it. I believe this is just Sony being greed but in the long term it might hurt the company there. People often forget, but Brazil is among the biggest markets for gamming nowadays...
Thirty7ven
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Think about it for a second there, why are you worried about Sony? They raise the prices, the people either keep buying or they don't. Do you know how this whole thing works? A company determines the price their customers are willing to pay and then adjust. Maybe the problem here isn't that Sony is going to hurt itself, LOL, maybe it is that they have realized people will pay.
It's not about number of players, it's about how much revenue they generate. All this faux concern is just that, a bunch of bullshit. You say they are not like Apple, but the market says they are selling faster than ever.
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TheDreadLord
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I don't get all this rage... Are you a Sony shareholder or whatever? We are talking about a single (digital) game costing almost half of the country minimum wage. It isn't very difficult to see people in such countries migrating to a different platform in the long term just because it is cheaper and they can afford more games.
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Yeah its trash, but brazilians can stand over it because you can download the games and as I said, we used to spend days downloading stuff, my internet was 2mbps and only because the Vivo refused to raise the speed, got rid of it with a 50mbps one from Tim
Insane Metal
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In Brazil, fuck Sony and Nintendo tbh.
The only company to give a shit at all is Microsoft.
The only company to give a shit at all is Microsoft.
JLB
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To some extent is reasonable, because jumping between ecosystems is hard, specially on these digital first platforms. But if this tendency continues, playstation sales will suffer for sure.
Most people is not dumb to be paying the same game 10/15 times for no reason.
Fake
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Indeed. IDK by now because I don't use Xbox anymore, but Xbox 360 support here in Brazil are quite good in comparison with Sony and non existence Nintendo.
Thirty7ven
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No rage, I’m legit saying that if price becomes out of reach for certain people and they migrate to another platform, that in itself is an outcome that is predictable and factored into the decision of raising price.
What you don’t seem to understand is that it is ok for people to migrate. It’s not difficult for you to see and it’s not difficult for anybody to see.
You talked about Apple and it’s the same thing here, Apple won’t drop their prices just so everyone can afford one of their products. They want to hit a certain segment of the market and serve them.
The whole concern thing is just tiresome. Analyzing what’s happening from the POV that people who are making the decisions are straight up dumb? Maybe they aren’t the dumb ones.
Sony has made it very clear that it wants PS5 to be seen as a premium product, its games as premium entertainment.
Brazil is the 12th market, and most of it is mobile, consoles are 29%. Government imposes a lot of taxes on it, and some companies will take a hit and others won’t.
Looking at it objectively, Brazilian gamers should be kicking a shit storm at the governments door instead of taking private companies to task. Nintendo was out of that market for years, not so long ago.
Don’t complain that the product you don’t want is cheaper than the one you want, it’s an absurd complaint.
TyphoonStruggle
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Hook me up with some hot Poland girls and I’ll send you some free game. (Better trade for me imo)
SlimeGooGoo
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rofif
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If You are a foreigner from spain or italy, polish girls will droll right over
DarthMurgus
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Brazilians pay half of what the rest of the world pays for games and are still complaining? Their economy is shit, but the prices are already adjusted to take that in account. In Europe we already play more than what americans pay. Brazil pays 39 US dolars for a brand new game, while the other pay double that. I'm sorry but they are getting crazier by the day.
Setsuna Mudou
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Only dumb ass people are paying those prices.
The sophisticated gentlemen among us all use VPNs when the need arises and virtually live in Alaska or some other cheap state in the US.
The sophisticated gentlemen among us all use VPNs when the need arises and virtually live in Alaska or some other cheap state in the US.