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MS: Japan their fastest growing gaming market, strong popularity for the Xbox Series S
- Thread starter ManaByte
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MvCSpiderman
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You just be misremembering the first half of the Xbox One.
ecentre
Member
l did but my argument still stands.
ecentre
Member
Still shit and nothing to write home about. You don't agree? How painful.
MvCSpiderman
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The fact Xbox One had people questioning where Sony's games were, and it was outpacing the 360 even in European countries, did happen whether you didn't like the console or not.
Looking back it's seems silky but that's what happened.
ecentre
Member
That is funny and how people without any knowledge react when they don't know any better.
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I guess when it comes to PR and general coverage, let's throw a bunch of stuff on the wall and see what sticks.
Magnific0giganticus
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"Japan is currently the fastest growing market for Xbox".
Seriously? From 2 consoles sold a week to 50, so that's a 2,500% growth right there! If I don't stop shaking my head blood may start fizzing out my ears.
Seriously? From 2 consoles sold a week to 50, so that's a 2,500% growth right there! If I don't stop shaking my head blood may start fizzing out my ears.
dcmk7
Banned
Percentages can prove anything 80% of people know that.
John Wick
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The SS is never gonna outsell the SX. It's too weak. Even children in playgrounds know the difference. 4K tv's are the norm. The SS just doesn't cut it
Spidey Fan
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4k is for forum kids. People outside of forums don't care about it.
You are still looking down on series S. The primary target is college kids, parents during holidays. And people who have other consoles as their primary console. That is why it will outsold the series X.
Fastest growing
Wow 559 units /29 May 2021
Congratulations for the speedy recovery !
The United Nations surely buy a lot of consoles. lol
MvCSpiderman
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If we're are being blunt, Xbox doesn't need Japan, never has. It sells more units in Nigeria
Bernd Lauert
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Japan is hyperconnected and mobile, which means streaming would fit their gaming needs quite well. Microsoft is betting on that.
MvCSpiderman
Banned
No not for Japan.
ZehDon
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Lol, well yeah - that's literally how corporations spin this stuff. Xbox's only chance for success in Japan is that xCloud catches on, and people play it on their mobiles. Xbox consoles establishing a foothold in Japan is a pipe dream.
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Give their Japanese marketing team a bonus. Incredible.
Spidey Fan
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Magnific0giganticus
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There's no chance and there's no success to have for Xbox in Japan. Even for PlayStation is an uphill battle there.
ZehDon
Gold Member
I wouldn't discount xCloud - allowing every next-gen console game to be played on your smart phone is a hell of a proposition for a market infatuated with portable devices.
Captain Toad
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For a company that goes out of their way to hide sales numbers when behind the competition, you'd think they would avoid drawing attention toward their sales numbers in Japan.
ABnormal
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Well, from 4000 units of XOne to 12000 units of SeriesS is 200% growth. Surely the fastest.
Bryank75
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Yes, especially when there are lunatics like me out there that will spend ages pasting in the sales for weeks into every comment response on a Youtube video.
Captain Toad
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Isn’t streaming on Switch a fairly big deal there? At least, compared to the west.
Magnific0giganticus
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Dude, it's Japan. Nothing to do there. Xcloud is doubtful to even be a thing in USA...
ZehDon
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You haven't really added much to the discussion. xCloud is doubtful because streaming games hasn't really been feasible - its on Microsoft to make it work. Will they? "Dude, it's Japan" isn't an answer.
supernova8
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"fastest growing" but they probably wouldn't want to discuss the actual numbers. Pretty easy to grow from close to zero.
Spidey Fan
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Magnific0giganticus
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Ok. Lol. Text me back in a couple years.
supernova8
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On a constructive note, I think Microsoft would do well to somehow change the Xbox branding completely in Japan. People (like me) who live in Japan will note how Samsung has removed pretty much all mention of "Samsung" on/with its Galaxy smartphones. It's just "Galaxy".
Of course people are not idiots and they still know it's Samsung, but I wonder if Microsoft could do some sort of tie-up (if not just for the sake of branding) with a Japanese company here.
Of course people are not idiots and they still know it's Samsung, but I wonder if Microsoft could do some sort of tie-up (if not just for the sake of branding) with a Japanese company here.
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420bits
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Well, isn't that the very definition of phenomenal growth from the previous gen where they sold like, 30 consoles a month?
ZehDon
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Why? You're clearly not interested in discussing the topic.
NiiloPielinen
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John Wick
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You'll be waiting forever for that to happen
prinz_valium
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And yes, they don't ship any units at all to the region, lol
ZywyPL
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Which doesn't mean people there don't buy their games on PC, don't subscribe to GP, don't use xCloud etc. which is exactly what Spencer pointed out. I guess some people here didn't went further than just reading the thread title before they jumped into comment section...
prinz_valium
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Yes they do, but talking about console being popular, when we have the actual numbers is disgenerous.
It's really not much at all. And we know they could sell more, if they would just ship more.
Spidey Fan
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Prestigious high-school. Dude is class A fine American.
ZywyPL
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Home consoles market is dead in Japan, there's just a tiny number they can reach no matter how many units they'll ship. I'm surprised Sony and MS bother at all, they should've skip it altogether and send all those units to EU/US where the demand is through the roof and people do spend a lot of time (and money) on those consoles.
yurinka
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PC emulator can't emulate most of the main PS3 games and won't during many years because of technology limitations.
All 4 consoles sold the same day? Wow, spectacular!
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ethomaz
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I agree the primary target of Series S are parents that knows nothing about the game machines to give gift to their children.
But that was a marketing in the past when these children were non-informed enough about consoles.
I don't believe that is the case today... most children will have time to explain to their parentes which machines they really wants.
Most if not all college kids knows today the difference between Xbox machines.
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ethomaz
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Xbox One sold better in Japan than Series combined.Well, isn't that the very definition of phenomenal growth from the previous gen where they sold like, 30 consoles a month?
360 sold way way way better in Japan than all others Xbox combined.
I need to check origna Xbox data but in terms of sales Series is probably one if not the the worst selling Xbox in Japan... maybe even lower the original Xbox.
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luckily hiska posts regular updates on the explosive growth of Xbox in Japan
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| | Xbox One | Xbox Series | Difference |
| | (2014/09/04) | (2020/11/10) | |
|----|---------|----------|---------|----------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | XBS - XB1 |
|----|---------|----------|---------|----------|--------------|
| 28 | 446| 51.497| 1.176| 44.956| -6.541|
| 29 | 322| 51.819| 547| 45.503| -6.316|
| 30 | 220| 52.039| 630| 46.133| -5.906|
| 31 | 292| 52.331| 2.694| 48.827| -3.504|
| 32 | 625| 52.956| | | |
| 33 | 513| 53.469| | | |
| 34 | 508| 53.977| | | |
| 35 | 403| 54.380| | | |
| 36 | 256| 54.636| | | |
| 37 | 155| 54.791| | | |
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DeepEnigma
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It's not technology limitations, it's trying to get the code to run more elegantly due to the differences in code/design to x86 rather than all out brute forcing in 5 years time. The current Zen 2's have shown great success with little to no optimizations. Already better framerates over the base consoles. Sony would surely be able to get it done investing in software emulation on PS5 or PS5Pro blades, rather than trying to replace the PS3 blades cost wise.
Zen2 is UNBELIEVABLY Good for Emulation | RPCS3 Benchmarked [ PS3 Emulation ]
I've heard some ramblings that Zen 2 is not good for emulation…….These are PS3 games btw, so harder to emulate...….The emulation team is still working on enhancements and compatibility, so things will improve from there naturally..........
When did that happen? The RPCS3 emulator now runs Uncharted: Drake's Fortune better than the PlayStation 3, on a Comet Lake i5-10400F
The RPCS3 PlayStation 3 emulator has improved considerably over the years. A recent YouTube videos shows an updated version of the emulator running Uncharted: Drake's Fortune at roughly 40 FPS on a Comet Lake i5: Ryzen chips like the 3600X and the newer Ryzen 5000 lineup should do even better.
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Magnific0giganticus
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Discussing why Xcloud won't ever be even marginally successful in Japan, where Xbox has never been a thing and in a market that demonstrably has dwindled its interest in anything except casual mobile gaming? Yeah, no interest in discussing that. The PlayStation brand is losing market share by the minute over there and you think Japanese gamers will love to carry around an Xbox controller and adapter for their phones to play games from a stream service they have to subscribe to? L O L.
Spidey Fan
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I doubt they argue with their parents about the price point. Its why parents will pick it. 300$ device vz 500$ device is a no brainer for the parents.
And college kids have budget to go. They aren't picky for 4k or anything. As long as they have next gen device which is cheap entry. Those who can afford series x are rich college kids. Most of other kids, wont buy it.
Its why the switch sold alot. Handle held, and at 300$ price point, despite the games being expensive, the hardware was cheap entry.