SilentUser
Member
That's bad, no way around it. Could be temporary, could be caused by the dev/publisher, but most likely Sony is the reason here.
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SSfox
Member
People talking about shit about Sony like they're greedy ones. Just same random ignorant (in purpose or not? who knows) haters as usual..
Sure meanwhile Sony are using their earning money to release great games , also let's act like it's not MS that been make you pay online to play free to play and that also tried to sell you Xbox Gold for 120$, double the original price, and i'll pass.
Sure meanwhile Sony are using their earning money to release great games , also let's act like it's not MS that been make you pay online to play free to play and that also tried to sell you Xbox Gold for 120$, double the original price, and i'll pass.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sony going hardcore with ecosystem warrior mode.
Ease up Jim Ryan. Have some fun.
Ease up Jim Ryan. Have some fun.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Im sure if its gonna lose them lots of potential money they will change it. Im not sayings its good or bad, just tactics.
Otherwise I think they dont want to help out the competition having more people to play with.
Imagine the users on the competing console got frustarted not having enough people to play games with online, they would soon think about migrating to Playstation if thats there thing.
Im pretty sure MS wouldnt be willing to do crossplay if Sony during the start of the PS3 days wanted to... doesn't make business sense to help the competition
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
So long as you aren't paying, why do you care about the business aspects?
Also, if Sony are taking a 30% cut of nothing, what'd be in it for them either way?
Sneakysnake
Member
Sony is really doing everything it can to steal the title of "bad guy" from MS this gen. Smh
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Most likely Borderlands refused to pay Sony's extortion fees.
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Capcom vs SNK had crossplay between Dreamcast and PS2 in 2001 and Final Fantasy XI had crossplay PC/PS2 in 2002. Lets not pretend MS pioneered this shit in 2007 when they were actively blocking it in that gen trying to collect Xbox live gold money.
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Bladed Thesis
Member
This is untrue. Sony expects to receive payments if there are purchases made outside their ecosystem that expect to be used in their ecosystem. For example, if a Fortnite player primarily plays on PS4 but goes on PC and buys a few skins and then goes back to playing on PS4, Sony has missed out on the sales while being the primary ecosystem for that player. They expect to receive some of that money from the PC ecosystem. MS and PC don't have these concerns because they aren't a large part of the Fortnite community like Sony is. As the leader, Sony is the one who risks losing income from allowing anybody to play anywhere and share ecosystems, including microtransaction products that are cross-platform.
John Wick
Member
Does anyone know if you can play crossplay between IOS and Android games??
ethomaz
Banned
The punisher.
You won’t buy the MTX on PlayStation so whatever... it won’t be missed.
Good job conflating two completely different things
John Wick
Member
I suppose certain idiots only think that one company charges to play online eh?What do you expect from a company that asks idiots to pay to play online? Smart move, money is all that matters.
Maybe you should ask the shareholders of each company if money is all that matters?
Dumb post
ManaByte
Member
Depends on the game. When Fortnite was still on iOS you could. And I believe CoD and PuBG mobile don‘t discriminate based on OS.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
There are bigger reasons besides the platform warring for this. It should come as no surprise to see people dismissing this without really understanding the underlying reasons.
I have both the game on PS4 and PC. The best thing about the console version is really the split screen. That's the only reason I bought it. Get along.
I have both the game on PS4 and PC. The best thing about the console version is really the split screen. That's the only reason I bought it. Get along.
John Wick
Member
It's fantastic. All those hundreds of games that you can crossplay on the Switch with PC, Xbox and PS
Among Us, too
The Cockatrice
Member
What? yes, ofc money is all the matters you fool and ofc anyone who charges players in 2021 to play online is a masterclass swindler. While not many have the "luxury" of playing on PC I understand some have no choice. Still, the less wallets they take from the consumer the less likely they drop dumb shit like that but that will never happen because looking all the income from mtx for example, the world is full of idiots. Now stop being a corpo rat.
Your personal benefits from one or the other don't change the simple fact that both issues boil down to:
1) a platform holder;
2) a requirement that if you want to benefit from what it has, then you must pay for it.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Think of the children!!!
SmurfMustard
Member
And this my children is what we call whataboutism.
Even in the event servers are P2P or privately owned and not using Sony's? What else is the 30% store cut and PS+ fees going towards then? It's ridiculous that without cross purchasing Sony would put in any sort of additional requirements or royalties. It's greed, plain and simple.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The theory is Sony needs to protect their walled garden or else PS gamers might bail ship to other platforms.
That doesn't even make sense.
If PS is such a great platform with tons of people playing, it's better to open it up, and show off to the world how great PS online gaming is so you can scoop up Nintendo, MS and PC gamers into the PS ecosystem making it even bigger.
The fact they protect means they are afraid and think have more to lose than to gain. No confidence.
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John Wick
Member
Why are you getting upset for? You wrote a dumb post as all three consoles charge for online play but you tried to focus that just on Sony.
I don't understand why your bothered if people are paying to play online? Calling them idiots doesn't make you some genius ya know. Now stop crying....
Trogdor1123
Member
Crap like this really bugs me. If I didn't have a PS4 library and 3 years of ps+ built up I think I'd have gone Xbox this time. Actually, I know I would have. If demon souls hadn't been a launch title I'd have shifted.
The Cockatrice
Member
Nowhere in my post did I specify Sony. You wrote a dumb reply and I gave you more details. Now fuck off.
DryvBy
Member
They have more games with cross-play than Microsoft and Nintendo. There's a keyword to this tweet. They're required to cut the cross-play and it could just be temp. There's definitely something going on with a toss up of who's to blame for whatever reason. But Randy and 2K aren't always honest. Let's not forget the Alien fiasco years ago.
Sony charges for crossplay support to protect PSN revenue, documents show
Epic lawsuit shows that Sony gets royalties if too many PlayStation players spend money elsewhere.www.pcgamer.com
here you go
But they said SONY required them to cut it. It's more than likely not from this.
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captainnapalm
Member
It's a good thing Sony have had some success with first-party studios - because they're really a terrible company in every other conceivable way.
I didn't say that it wasn't understandable why Sony as a company does it especially in the case of Fortnite and give the most cross-platform have dlc/mtx, the distinction between cross-platform play and cross-platform revenue is largely irrelevant. If there was a cross-platform game that had no DLC/MTX and Sony still blocked that, it's even worse. Also I as a consumer don't care if Sony is getting paid if I want to play with my friends on the PS5 when I am on a PC.
Of course its about the money. Everything these companies do is about the money. But I disagree on it being ridiculous. It's just smart business, as proven by Epic cutting a deal with Sony on this issue.
John Wick
Member
So let's say I play Cod or PubG and I have both Android phone and Ipad. I start playing on Ipad create an account and then I want to carry on playing on Android phone. Will my game carry over to the Android device?
Let's say it does and I purchase £50 worth of skins and stuff. I then return to play on Ipad will those skins and stuff carry over and would Apple want a cut?
Krappadizzle
Member
ManaByte
Member
With CoD it uses Facebook or CoD to handle accounts so they're platform agnostic. I started playing on iOS and play now on Android with the same account.
martino
Member
two poeple using ps4 were going to buy it because of me.
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Bryank75
Banned
John Wick
Member
No of course you didn't mean Sony, you meant Nintendo as they are the company being discussed in this very thread. Genius....... Carry on
Are you gonna make me fuck off?
The Cockatrice
Member
You can add Nintendo or Microsoft or any company to the thread title and my post would remain and still remains valid. It does not matter which, they're all idiots. Your reply on the other hand sounds like you're sucking Jim's dick. Carry on then.
John Wick
Member
I mean would the purchases carry over to another platform? I'm surprised Apple would allow this? They went ballistic when Epic tried that lol
Wonder if Phil is going to be having informal conversation with Bungie to ask them to kick up a fuss
ManaByte
Member
You're making your purchase on iOS or Google (which also takes 30%). They went ballistic over Epic telling people to buy Vbucks on their own store and not iOS.
GHG
Member
I was looking forward to playing this with
DarkMage619
but now I can't.
This news greatly upsets me.
DarkMage619
but now I can't.This news greatly upsets me.
TheDreadLord
Member
I think Sony is right to do and charge whatever it wants. It is their own closed platform. On the other hand, it also sounds a bit silly since x-play would give some life support to mp based games that aren’t that popular. Perhaps, in the end, Sony would still make a profit by allowing x-play.
John Wick
Member
Nah I hate Jim Ryan and want him gone.
So which dick are you sucking in the (I game on PC and therefor I'm not an idiot) land??? I mean there's so many like Bill, Jensen or good ol Gabe??? I mean there's so many you'll be too busy....
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