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[PleaseDontBanMe]

IGN review

42 hours for 25 deaths so very long runs and you can’t save. Yeah this is a ridiculous.

yeah, I'm the type of gamer that games at a snails pace and likes to save after every little acomplisment and come back to it later

guess I'll be waiting for a sale unless they alter the save system post launch

was close to buying it until i found out about the save system

 

[HotPocket69]

can you save your progress in this game?

No. Also it’s $70

 

[sircaw]

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wouldnt call something like Binding of Issac canned food but what ever.

kinda odd to be so dismissive of a genre untill big brother makes one.

What is up with you dude, are you seriously butthurt because sony released a good game for its fan base.

If you making some light-hearted humor then fine but stop trying to throw shade on everyone else's enjoyment.

The vast majority of people here are super happy with what they are seeing,

There is a reason you're in the tiny minority, think about it.

 

[Eliciel]

It seems they delivered.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Hole smokes. Imagine a new Colony Wars by HM. Pure joy.

Someone get me a top job at Sony or Xbox, I’ll make great ideas happen for them.

(In reality the toilets need cleaning so off I go)

 

[Certinty]

Sounds similar to the Souls games where it's rinse and repeat until it clicks or you get good. I'm out on that note.

 

[LisaMariaMartin]

Jeff Scrubb is no longer hiding it, little fucker, there is always one of these just to bring down the metascores. How can a general consensus be a 9 and this guy gives it an 8. Critics should be objective and not let personal taste influence the review score.

Hahah

 

[reksveks]

ehhh they must not have seen me play Hades or Dead Cells then I've easily had a bunch of runs in both those games (on Switch) without making significant progress

I absolutely love Hades though in spite of having not managed to beat the last boss yet over ~30 runs (I really should get back to that game)

I'm probably not getting Returnal just because it seems too horror-ish for my taste

Hades feels very forgiving with the amount of currency that you take back after you die.

I haven't spent enough time in dead cells but think it's on the harder side.

 

[Thirty7ven]

The one guy at Digital Foundry that I respect for his love of games.

 

[Entroyp]

We PlayStation customers celebrate great games quite often. It feels so good. This one even more due to the unreasonable bad faith by many.

It’s Housemarque bitches.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Sounds similar to the Souls games where it's rinse and repeat until it clicks or you get good. I'm out on that note.

Sounds even tougher. In Souls you can at least grind it out and improve your character. Not possible in Returnal from what I've read.

I wonder how many people will have the "babby's first roguelike" experience with this game and throw their controller against the wall

 

[Reality Czar]

Wait, people were expecting save files? Why? Haven't we known this was going to be a roguelike for months and months?

I feel like a lot of folks play games because they want to fill out a checklist and "accomplish something" rather than just play. Unless they are constantly upgrading their guy they act like the simple act of playing is a waste of time.

This prob not the game for you.

 

[Papacheeks]

Jeff Scrubb.

He hasn’t been right about anything gaming related since I first heard his name (last year when he was trying to predict the dates of the console game reveals).

He hasn’t improved his accuracy I guess.

I don't have an issue with his content, he obviously knows some people and once in a while breaks some info. My issue is he is like many other inexperienced game journalists. WHich is also a crock. He doesn't do research, he literally will put out a article like the one about Sony AAA and ignoring indies. He made a article on top of the hot topic brought forth by Jason's article.

Yet didn't do research and that would indicate he doesn't follow playstation closely. Which to me is a big red flag in having any clout in this industry. If your going to make videos/articles and build a rep, then having all your info correct to formulate a educated line of discussion is your first priority. Hate Jason all you want the guy gets all his ducks in a row before formulating anything. That article literally took him weeks to months to vett, and nail down informatino. And even so he made some light modifications to it as new updated info was discovered. Thats what an actual real News reporter is suppose to do.

Grubb literally was given tons of stuff by Microsoft over the past couple years. It's obvious that in some compacity it has skewed in what he pays attention to in covering with detail/research. If he is indifferent than do some fucking research or have someone else more versed in that sector give you the info you might lack.
I don't know a shit ton on some things when it comes to Specific Nintendo teams, developers so I have people I go to for that info.

The fact his review obviously was based on not at least getting halfway with the game. (there are 6 Biomes) His issues with the controls could have been changed if he literally looked as seen and corrected by EZA.
It's just like the Playstation article he wrote where he back tracked on some of these points. Which ultimately made his article fall apart.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Jeff Scrubb is no longer hiding it, little fucker, there is always one of these just to bring down the metascores. How can a general consensus be a 9 and this guy gives it an 8. Critics should be objective and not let personal taste influence the review score.

You’re right of course however I strongly suspect there is a lack of it with some folk, particularly on sites dedicated to a single platform. One individual in particular who I used to communicate with on a movie forum , was an absolute arse hole to anyone who played on a different gaming platform to their “preference” when gaming discussions arose.

This person is still reviewing games featured on MC to this day and based on the reviews, zero objectivity, pure sickening zealot .

 

[DonJorginho]

Alright I'm taking a break from posting reviews on the OT! I have missed loads but will do a few more later tonight as I feel like people know more than enough about how this game is shaping up!

 

[nowhat]

No. Also it’s $70

So was the single malt I bought to go along with this. Being an adult with disposable income has its perks.

 

[ethomaz]

Long and short: too difficult but "looks feels like a $70 game." He also doesn't like the adaptive trigger implementation and things all the colors and objects "clutter" the screen

He hates haptic and adaptive triggers since moment Sony announced Dual Sense.

 

[SlimySnake]

Sounds even tougher. In Souls you can at least grind it out and improve your character. Not possible in Returnal from what I've read.

I wonder how many people will have the "babby's first roguelike" experience with this game and throw their controller against the wall

Souls games also let you unlock shortcuts so if you end up dying, you dont have to replay the entire level all over again. Let alone the entire fucking game. who designed this shit?

 

[Portugeezer]

Wait, people were expecting save files? Why? Haven't we known this was going to be a roguelike for months and months?

I feel like a lot of folks play games because they want to fill out a checklist and "accomplish something" rather than just play. Unless they are constantly upgrading their guy they act like the simple act of playing is a waste of time.

This prob not the game for you.

Why can't you save current progress in a roguelike?

 

[ethomaz]

Really glad to see it's reviewing well. The studio really deserves it.

Please spare a thought for the people who aren't happy about this..

















Special bonus:

OMG concern.
The post is worth for the bonus.

 

[ethomaz]

Jeff Grubb:

Man I suspect Xbox fans doesn't to play games lol
It is unbelievable.

 

[Gediminas]

This is not even canned food, this is expired food, mate. You really have a strong tolerance for such low quality games, I really envy you.

he is xbox dude, what do you expect from him? he don't know any better..

on topic, my score was 84-87 on meta, i hit pretty well

p.s when you make a stupid comment, you take a hit, you correct yourself, but this man just double down and writes more stupid things, wow.

 

[HotPocket69]

Why can't you save current progress in a roguelike?

Because that defeats the purpose of a roguelike

 

[Dabaus]

Jeff Grubb gave it a 6. Given his overt bias I find this problematic.

Hes the Arthur Geis of this generation. If you dont know that is he is an xbox fanatic who masqueraded as a journalist.

 

[RoboEight]

Awesome reviews so far I'm looking forward to picking this up tomorrow.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

he is xbox dude, what do you expect from him? he don't know any better..

on topic, my score was 84-87 on meta, i hit pretty well

p.s when you make a stupid comment, you take a hit, you correct yourself, but this man just double down and writes more stupid things, wow.

I feast on stupid comments, they are the pure entertainment I need.

I predicted 87, It's 86 now on Metacritics, and 87 on OpenCritic.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Souls games also let you unlock shortcuts so if you end up dying, you dont have to replay the entire level all over again. Let alone the entire fucking game. who designed this shit?

you also have shorctuts in Returnal after defeating boss

 

[kretos]

 

[Azurro]

wouldnt call something like Binding of Issac canned food but what ever.

kinda odd to be so dismissive of a genre untill big brother makes one.

To be honest, I'm surprised the Binding of Isaac is very popular, it's a really ugly, and basic game, I don't know what people see in it.

 

[DonJorginho]

Souls games also let you unlock shortcuts so if you end up dying, you dont have to replay the entire level all over again. Let alone the entire fucking game. who designed this shit?

You don't have to play the whole game in one run btw, but it ain't much better. If you wanna know then PM as don't wanna spoil.

 

[Thirty7ven]

I don't have an issue with his content, he obviously knows some people and once in a while breaks some info. My issue is he is like many other inexperienced game journalists. WHich is also a crock. He doesn't do research, he literally will put out a article like the one about Sony AAA and ignoring indies. He made a article on top of the hot topic brought forth by Jason's article.

During his playthrough stream he was being a cynical bitch about everything. Mentioning the whole "Sony template" with the 3rd person camera, bad mouthing the Dual Sense features, and generally being shit at the game honestly, dying way too much.

The problem of course isn't that the game gets a 6. And of course when Playstation magazine gives a Sony game a 10, it's like... yeah ok, sure. But he's not writing for Xbox magazine, so his Arthur Gies mimicry gets called out and justifiably.

Dude is straight up an extension of Xbox PR at this point.

 

[Entroyp]

Hes the Arthur Geis of this generation. If you dont know that is he is an xbox fanatic who masqueraded as a journalist.

This is so accurate.

 

[reksveks]

Wait, people were expecting save files? Why? Haven't we known this was going to be a roguelike for months and months?

I feel like a lot of folks play games because they want to fill out a checklist and "accomplish something" rather than just play. Unless they are constantly upgrading their guy they act like the simple act of playing is a waste of time.

This prob not the game for you.

Hades had a single slot save option for your run so you can turn off your switch/pc if you need to. I would hope honestly that returnal has that and the only solution is to use the suspend mode.

 

[Warnen]

This is not even canned food, this is expired food, mate. You really have a strong tolerance for such low quality games, I really envy you.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

Rebirth is a randomly generated action RPG shooter with emphatic Roguelike elements. Following Isaac on his journey gamers discover bizarre treasures that change Isaac’s form giving him extra-human abilities and enabling him to fend off droves of mysterious creatures, learn secrets and scrap his...

www.metacritic.com

I didn’t care for the game much myself. The genre isn‘t for me. Maybe is it had a Sony Studio logo on the box you would give it a try.

 

[chinoXL]

happy for the team that the game is reviewing well...still crazy how people are still throwing the price as a reason to knock the game..regardless, i got my deluxe version preloaded, lets gooooo!!!

 

[Dabaus]

During his playthrough stream he was being a cynical bitch about everything. Mentioning the whole "Sony template" with the 3rd person camera, bad mouthing the Dual Sense features, and generally being shit at the game honestly, dying way too much.

The problem of course isn't that the game gets a 6. And of course when Playstation magazine gives a Sony game a 10, it's like... yeah ok, sure. But he's not writing for Xbox magazine, so his Arthur Gies mimicry gets called out and justifiably.

Dude is straight up an extension of Xbox PR at this point.

Absolutely this. As is most if not all American "Journalists" and podcasters.

 

[AJUMP23]

Even though you can't save there has to be progress gates that you get to that save....I mean it has a story. Or do you always replay all the story beats when you die?

 

[saintjules]

You can enjoy your canned food at under $10. We're after the full AAA experience here, juicy as fuck.

Canned food - Is this it?

 

[Umbasaborne]

Im so glad its reviewing well! My copy should be arriving some time tomorrow, though maybe amazon will deliver it early if im lucky

 

[Elpidio Valdés]

I don't understand the "no saving the game" part. Do you have to keep the console running until you beat this game? I don't get it. The reviews look excellent though, once I snatch a PS5 I'll grab this game asap.

 

[Portugeezer]

Because that defeats the purpose of a roguelike

Ok

 

[Heisenberg007]

How's everyone doing on this beautiful day?!

Congratulations to HouseMarque and Sony for a wonderful release! They have already started working on their next PS5 exclusive game. Good days for PS5 gamers!

 

[Bo_Hazem]

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

Rebirth is a randomly generated action RPG shooter with emphatic Roguelike elements. Following Isaac on his journey gamers discover bizarre treasures that change Isaac’s form giving him extra-human abilities and enabling him to fend off droves of mysterious creatures, learn secrets and scrap his...

www.metacritic.com

I didn’t care for the game much myself. The genre isn‘t for me. Maybe is it had a Sony Studio logo on the box you would give it a try.

Demon's Souls is 92 on Metacritics, won't touch it even for free. Same with Bloodborne. Yet you don't find me in Demon's Souls game threads shitting on it.

That game would've been fun in early 1990's. By the time I was playing on Sega MegaDrive such games aren't playable.

 

[Entroyp]

Souls games also let you unlock shortcuts so if you end up dying, you dont have to replay the entire level all over again. Let alone the entire fucking game. who designed this shit?

How Saving In Returnal Actually Works

There's been some confusion about what progress Returnal does or doesn't save. Here's what you need to know before the game's launch.

www.kotaku.com.au

 

[Roxkis_ii]

To be quite honest, I’m not really a fan of rogue-likes until I played Hollow Knight. I just want to know if this game is as fun as that as it will take a really great rogue-like to get my interest.

I think Hollow Knight is more of metroviania, while Returnal would be closer to game like Deadcells or Hades.

Love some Hollow Knight tho, I should probably go beat it.

 

[TIGERCOOL]

Pumped! Seems the issues the game has would definitely be magnified by needing to finish it before embargoes were up. the lack of a meaningful save system seems like it would be novel at first but eventually feel like a nuisance, but I'll have to see what they've done there for myself.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Canned food - Is this it?

That's it, Jeff Grubb would give that a 10/10.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

Wait, people were expecting save files? Why? Haven't we known this was going to be a roguelike for months and months?

I feel like a lot of folks play games because they want to fill out a checklist and "accomplish something" rather than just play. Unless they are constantly upgrading their guy they act like the simple act of playing is a waste of time.

This prob not the game for you.

To be honest, I just realized last week that Returnal is an Rogue like, but I wasn't really paying attention anyways. ( although it should have been clear from the get go to be honest ).
Great for me, I love rogue likes.

Problem is though , most people probably don't even know what a rogoue like is so I can see a lot of backlash coming soon.
Sad but unavoidable in this case.

People that are calling for saves also don't seem to understand what a rogue like is and how it is meant to be played.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Even though you can't save there has to be progress gates that you get to that save....I mean it has a story. Or do you always replay all the story beats when you die?

You don't, as far as the story elements go. So the idea (of roguelike/lite games in general) is to reveal new story elements on each run. So you will learn and see new story bits, not watch the old bits again and again.

Also, the saving thing isn't that big of a deal. There are teleportation jumps, and once you hit certain checkpoints, you can skip boss fights in previous biomes altogether on your next runs. So they have made it a fair system.

 

[Warnen]

Demon's Souls is 92 on Metacritics, won't touch it even for free. Same with Bloodborne. Yet you don't find me in Demon's Souls game shitting on it.

That game would've been fun in early 1990's. By the time I was playing on Sega MegaDrive such games aren't playable.

haven’t shit on this game either. I’ve said it’s a niche genre and would be great if they dropped in on PSN (becuase the price is high for a rougelike).