sunnysideup
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og looks better?I hope they can get it to a point where it matches the original first in visuals and effects. I haven't tried the latest patch much yet, but the PC version looked like this for me (right is the original release)
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[DF] Crysis Remastered PS5 Upgrade: All Modes Tested - What's The Best Way To Play at 60FPS?
Concern
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SLB1904
Banned
i wasnt addressing my comment to you but to people using the checkpoint bug as some kind of victory
I don't think this can be considered a "win" for anyone lol. Shit runs like trash
Concern
Member
I know you weren't. But just pointing it out. This shit is hilarious. I think these devs just can't code for shit tbh lol.
SLB1904
Banned
they can, they just want a quick cash grab. which is a shame.
MasterCornholio
Member
Not but like you said he shouldn't be happy that either platform is performing badly. I sure wouldn't be if I was in his position.
It's like saying that I'm happy that the performance is garbage on Xbox/PlayStation. That's not a correct attitude to have especially when your doing a comparison. Only people I can imagine doing that are the extremists like Joe or TimDog.
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Where you getting he is happy with either platform Bo was just saying that he sounds happy in the video in general. Have you watched it?
he calls out both versions, he just sounds happy he gets to look at Crysis a game which he says he played hundreds of hours of
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Hey, joking with you. Happy here as Man United won 3-1 vs Tottenham, so I don't want Alex to be happy which makes me sad.
Andodalf
Banned
The game was just designed for hardware that never existed, they thought single core performance would increase but instead core count did. Game needs to be remade from the ground up one day, this is just a okay ish port of the Console port with some of the Pc features added back in.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
And who do you support
Bo_Hazem
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S0ULZB0URNE
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This.
I don't think this can be considered a "win" for anyone lol. Shit runs like trash
Another lazy port from PC based devs.
ss_lemonade
Member
The original version has effects that are missing in the remastered version. For example, not shown is how good smoke effects affected by wind look on the original, while the remastered has a very artificial, patchy look to moving smoke (there's a level that shows this clearly, can't remember which one). Lighting is different though and one could say that the remastered version could be more "accurate?"
Environment physics is a big thing missing too in the remastered version.
Last time I tried it, vehicles also clip through vegetation instead of affecting them.
I am not sure if this is due to the version/engine the remaster is based on and that is preventing the developers from implementing the same type of physics back but I again can only hope that they can improve on those parts because I thought the game itself played great
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MasterCornholio
Member
I only watched part of it. Didn't know that's why he was happy. I thought he was happy with one version having peformance issues which seemed a bit strange to me.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Both version have performance issues and he points it out. But you jump in and comment about a video you half watched just to console war
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Where you from
GGMU
sunnysideup
Banned
wow. Can you play it on a modern pc with good framerates?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Ahhhh thought you might of been local. I live 30 mins from manchester
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Bo_Hazem
Banned
My body is in Oman, but my heart is at Old Trafford. I was coming to Manchester for a visit but the pandemic ruined my plans! Maybe one day we watch a match together in boxing days.
Been a Man United fan since 1995.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
I aint a man Utd fan lol am 30 mins to liverpool toMy body is in Oman, but my heart is at Old Trafford. I was coming to Manchester for a visit but the pandemic ruined my plans! Maybe one day we watch a match together in boxing days.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Rikkori
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ss_lemonade
Member
The original version tends to run better (significantly better too at times) but the remastered version's Very High settings can look better because it has much better draw distances. If you have time, you can probably get the original to look as good but it requires quite a bit tinkering with a custom cfg file and some experimenting to find good looking config values. The og version also has it's own set of issues like having problems engaging gsync and/or resolution and refresh rate problems, so the remastered version is more friendly in terms of an install and play experience.
Loading times was another big difference between the 2. Again, pre-latest patch impressions from me below loading the Onslaught level:
OG installed on a HDD: 20 seconds
OG installed on a standard SATA3 SSD: 10 seconds
Couple this with the lack of quick saves (which the original had) and I know this was one department that Alex from DF struggled with when he was making his initial Crysis Remastered videos because he could not do saves at the same spot for quick comparisons (I'm pretty sure this also makes like for like framerate comparisons between platforms very difficult and time consuming). I believe the latest patches have improved loading times a bit but it still wasn't even close to the original.
EDIT:
I tested this again with the latest patch and it looks like loading times improved significantly and are now almost similar to the original. Reloading a level though makes you go through a loading screen again, while the original caches the first load and instantly starts when reloading a level/save.
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Stuart360
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As someone who owns both versions on PC, the 'remastered' version does look better overall, especially froma lighting and texture angle. The orig game is also pretty easy to run now compared to the remaster.
I honestly feel Cytrec wanted the whole 'but can it run Crysis' back again, as this game for me is nearly as hard to run as Crysis was back in 2007.
I honestly feel Cytrec wanted the whole 'but can it run Crysis' back again, as this game for me is nearly as hard to run as Crysis was back in 2007.
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MasterCornholio
Member
Oh ok I thought you were saying it was one.
MasterCornholio
Member
Honestly I was reading a lot of the comments here and I thought the PS5 version was the only one with issues. I really didn't have the time to watch the whole thing because I have to pay attention to my brother while feeding him. I'm sorry that I couldn't watch the entire video.
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Yeah ok fair enough. if you watch it, he says the PS5 performs better than the xbox version but image quality is better on xbox. He says both version have problems. He compares them to the pc version which is miles better than both versions
MasterCornholio
Member
That makes sense since neither are native versions of the game. Just BC with the framerate unlocked. With native versions the results could have been better.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
I think the whole game needed recoding from the ground up, seems like a lot of bugs
MasterCornholio
Member
From the section that I've seen it appears that the CPU is being overloaded for no good reason.
Hawking Radiation
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Seems that’s the way it’s coded, Ray tracing is software on both so CPU could be getting worked where it probibly shouldn’t need to be
MasterCornholio
Member
I really don't see this as a bragging point for either side. Either your stuck with crappy IQ or crappy performance.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Yeah neither are good enough. Both have frame drops but os5 is slightly better with that and Xbox has better image. It’s still a bad port all round for both systems
Audiophile
Member
This Remaster is frankly an embarrassment given the original game and the widespread high regard for its technical make up.
When I saw this was getting a remaster I expected a balls to the wall tech showcase, what folks got was a ropey remaster of a PS360 port.
When I saw this was getting a remaster I expected a balls to the wall tech showcase, what folks got was a ropey remaster of a PS360 port.
bentanchorbolt
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VFXVeteran
Banned
I told people these machines were severely underpowered but I got laughed at and told to bug off.. It's really entertaining to watch all of this unfold and see the remarks. People's unrealistic expectations were at an all-time high in the Console Tech thread nearly 2 years ago and people believed it - just like last gen. Even if the graphics engine is shit optimized, the consoles should be able to brute force their way through typical graphics features that are nearly a decade old like normal maps, high res textures, transparent polygons for smoke/FX, etc..
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Mr Moose
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Crysis Demastered.
Bo_Hazem
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Yeah used that very word then didn't wanna make a joke of myself and googled it and found it being actually used as a compliment.
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So jokes on you now, mate.
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StreetsofBeige
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Hahaha.Has ethomaz called the devs already, though.
Just skimmed the video and saw this scene is at about the 8:35 mark.
Interestingly, the PS5 performance vs quality mode are all over the place. The quality mode runs better than the performance mode sometimes. And when they showed images of both, the picture quality of both seemed pretty similar.
Might was well just play the game at quality mode.
ss_lemonade
Member
I feel like it's got more to do with the underlying engine than what these consoles are capable of. I mean, here's the remastered version on my PC at 1024x768 max settings (w/o raytracing)
and at 1440p
and here's similar shots from the original at Very High (with a custom cfg to increase shadow resolution and push back LOD. Though you can still see the LOD improvements in the remaster based on these shots, which are hard to match on the original)
Even at 1024x768, some scenes would drop my framerate hard. Now I guess one could argue that I have some outdated hardware, which might be a bit true on the GPU side with some newer games, but I would imagine my oc'ed 1080 Ti paired with a 3700x should do much better than 49 FPS at 1024x768.
I did notice though that they fixed the loading times now with the latest version. Game seems to load almost as fast now as the original which is good. They also fixed some of the idle vegetation animation to be in-line with the original, which was almost static-like before.
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The Hamburglar
Banned
Honestly these comparisons of games running in backwards compatibility are pointless. Stick to games built with native next gen.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
At the end of the day crysis is just a fps and “can it run crysis?” Isn’t funny anymore all that doesn’t mean crysis isn’t a proven franchise.
VFXVeteran
Banned
I feel like it's got more to do with the underlying engine than what these consoles are capable of. I mean, here's the remastered version on my PC at 1024x768 max settings (w/o raytracing)
and at 1440p
and here's similar shots from the original at Very High (with a custom cfg to increase shadow resolution and push back LOD. Though you can still see the LOD improvements in the remaster based on these shots, which are hard to match on the original)
Even at 1024x768, some scenes would drop my framerate hard. Now I guess one could argue that I have some outdated hardware, which might be a bit true on the GPU side with some newer games, but I would imagine my oc'ed 1080 Ti paired with a 3700x should do much better than 49 FPS at 1024x768.
Your 1080Ti is equivalent in power to the next-gen consoles. So no, you don't have the GPU power to brute force that unoptimized code. I can run it at true 4k with Extreme details and am in the 50s. I have a 3090, so it brute forces through the bad code.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Watching the video, I can't think of a shooter I played with such bad AI.