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Phil Spencer confirms that some new future Bethesda titles will be Xbox and PC exclusive

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Yeah you see this is what happens when the PR is crap and leave some room for personal interpretations.

Until they’ve announced the exclusivity plans for each game people will keep on buying PS5 instead of XSX even if Bethesda is their favorite dev. Because why wouldn’t they?

Well spent 7 billion dollars! 🙄
Why waste the exclusive announcements now when nobody can even buy a console?
 
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ethomaz

Banned
never saw that, are you sure?
From what I remember yes... all logos were removed in September 2020 and that is when a lot of MS sites put the news as the game becoming exclusive because the logo was removed (makes se se imo).
 
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Bernkastel

Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Just Google Starfield PlayStation Logo.
I did.
September 7, 2018
May 11, 2020
Edit: ethomaz ethomaz lol'd a link to the wayback machine.
 
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Fredrik

Member
I have an odd question:

Will MachineGames and id Software be forced to drop Vulkan for DX12 on PC going forward?
Nobody knows if id’s and MG’s games are among those ”some” games that’ll be exclusive.
Wonderful PR, right?

But even if they are I doubt that they’ll force id to change anything at a lower level since they have among the best performing engines in the industry.
 
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Jigsaah

Gold Member
I stand by the belief that established IP's will still be multiplat, timed exclusive or include exclusive content (like Destiny) for Microsoft. No permanent exclusives for established IPs. For new IPs like Starfield I think those will be exclusive to Xbox and PC.
 

ethomaz

Banned
What are you talking about.... you can't have contracts with yourself... That is literally what you are suggesting. Starfield and TES VI (which is really really far away) don't have any contracts in place in relation to marketing or such.
When you start to make a game you enter in touch with the big platforms to receive devkits and help to develop that game... big AAA games rely a lot on that... so there is some contract/deal to release in that platform before the purchase the it is not usual to break or even try to cheese that contract.

Nobody knows what type of deals/contratar these game have in place.

The only think we can believe is that new announces will be decided by Microsoft themselves and I’m sure they will be all exclusives.

Games announced before the acquisition is still in the maybe case for both sides.
 
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phil_t98

#SonyToo
When you start to make a game you enter in touch with the big platforms to receive devkits and help to develop that game... big AAA games rely a lot on that... so there is some contract/deal to release in that platform before the purchase the it is not usual to break or even try to cheese that contract.

Nobody knows what type of deals/contratar these game have in place.

The only think we can believe is that new announces will be decided by Microsoft themselves and I’m sure they will be all exclusives.

Games announced before the acquisition is still in the maybe case for both sides.


So Microsoft now have sony devekits to pull apart
 

ethomaz

Banned
So Microsoft now have sony devekits to pull apart
They had way before that.. even if they don’t own one they have access to devskits via 3rd parties.

And yes all Bethesda’s PS devkits are now Microsoft ones... it is a company asset.

I believe both Sony and MS knows way before us the specs of each system... that include low level specs that we don’t know.... things like Sony upping the amount of RAM at last moment is not usual
In the industry.
 
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phil_t98

#SonyToo
They had way before that.. even if they don’t own one they have access to devskits via 3rd parties.

I believe both Sony and MS knows way before us the specs of each system... that include low level specs that we don’t know.... things like Sony upping the amount of RAM at last moment is not usual
In the industry.

Nah third parties will have signed contracts to not let that happen
 

Fredrik

Member
Why waste the exclusive announcements now when nobody can even buy a console?
Because people decide what to buy long before they’re opening the wallet.
You can ask the same thing for games -
Why waste announcements for upcoming games when the games aren’t ready yet?

MS needs to build some hype. They’re just sitting there silently like fools wondering why they’re at the last spot each month in sales figures.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Nah third parties will have signed contracts to not let that happen
These NDAs doesn’t hold the specs leaking to public... so do you believe it holds MS or Sony to know each other?

I stand in what I said... MS and Sony knows and even have access to each other DevKits way before the public get to know about them.

The fact MS early marketing telling the Xbox being the most powerful console tells you a lot about what they knew and they just changed after realize the PS5 could do better even with lower specs.

MS and Sony knows since beginning that Xbox will have the raw power advantage.
 
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Banjo64

cumsessed
Is this really the only thread we have regarding Xbox closing the purchase of Zenimax? This war-inducing PoS?

Spencer also confirmed Bathesda games coming to Game Pass with announcements this week.
 

Romulus

Member
Glad I have a PC. But I really don't think the heavy hitters will be Xbox exclusives until maybe next-gen. I feel like Bethesda made that part of their agreement because they knew PS5 would 2 to1 Xbox in sales. At least.

And even if exclusive announcements are made this gen, it will push some PS fans to the PC side. I would wager many have already been considering it anyway, and not only that, most Bethesda games aren't demanding to run so it won't take much.
 
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Andodalf

Banned
Because people decide what to buy long before they’re opening the wallet.
You can ask the same thing for games -
Why waste announcements for upcoming games when the games aren’t ready yet?

MS needs to build some hype. They’re just sitting there silently like fools wondering why they’re at the last spot each month in sales figures.

They're selling out all the SX they can make. There is 0 pressure on them right now
 

DAHGAMING

Member
Ps get the gaas and mmo stuff, along with Deathloop and Ghostwire, other than that xbox thug lifers guna be all up on that Elder G, Fallout, Doom, Wolf ect with the hench alpha dons up on the PC, but PS soys have no fear, you got new bald head emotional wreck Kratos game and that man child Last of Us amazing games to play.
 
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Jigsaah

Gold Member
People keep saying Microsoft needs to build hype or them not being clear is weak.

These same people don't realize the concept of "Earned Media". Microsoft has everybody talking about them right now. It builds hype, anticipation, fear, denial, excitement, depression, and suspense all at the same time.

Microsoft is in the driver's seat right now with a bunch of carrots tied to the bumper. Us lowly rabbits keep trying to nip at them but Microsoft accelerates just out of reach and will continue to do so until they decide to let us eat.
 
Same can be said for Sony and Nintendo. Not releasing their first party games on Xbox and PC is leaving too much money on the table.
Exactly ^

When it comes to Xbox, MS should make all of their games multiple platform to make everyone happy, while Sony and Nintendo do the exact opposite.... :pie_eyeroll:

All jokes a side, Xbox is still a big brand and with this new console gen they can grow their install base significantly this time around because they have more first party studios now, they don't need their games on PlayStation to make money, just like the same can be said for SONY.
 
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Bogroll

Likes moldy games
Glad I have a PC. But I really don't think the heavy hitters will be Xbox exclusives until maybe next-gen. I feel like Bethesda made that part of their agreement because they knew PS5 would 2 to1 Xbox in sales. At least.

And even if exclusive announcements are made this gen, it will push some PS fans to the PC side. I would wager many have already been considering it anyway, and not only that, most Bethesda games aren't demanding to run so it won't take much.
But that is not a concern for Bethesda. Its Microsoft's concern.
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
These NDAs doesn’t hold the specs leaking to public... so do you believe it holds MS or Sony to know each other?

I stand in what I said... MS and Sony knows and even have access to each other DevKits way before the public get to know about them.

The fact MS early marketing telling the Xbox being the most powerful console tells you a lot about what they knew and they just changed after realize the PS5 could do better even with lower specs.

MS and Sony knows since beginning that Xbox will have the raw power advantage.

They wouldnt acutally have a hands on dev kit, as for spec obvs they will know when they ask AMD to produce what they want. It’s easy for AMD to say this is the most powerful chip we put in a console without sony/microsoft actually seeing anything
 
In dev games originally planned as multiplatform releases with significant work done- probably multiplatform, probably exclusive, these are really all that is up in the air at the moment.

Mmo/service games - multiplatform

Remasters/collections - multiplatform

Deals already in place will follow their obligations.

Brand new games- exclusive.

You aren't going to see xbox printing console sellers for their competitors going forward. As time passes and more exclusives are announced, Bethesda games only being on Xbox and pc will be the norm. It's not that hard to understand what is going on here. If you want the next doom, dishonored, elder scrolls, wolfenstein etc. You won't get them on Playstation or Nintendo. Also, just because something is leaving the xbox/pc space doesn't necessarily mean it's coming to a Playstation. Xbox has been known to have stronger ties with Nintendo and stuff like cup head or ori coming to switch but not Playstation indicates Playstation could be left out in the cold entirely.
 

Bumblebeetuna

Gold Member
do you really believe that MS would remove already released games from other platforms? Like people bought doom Elternal last year and can’t play the Games anymore?
You can still play the old Bethesda games on other platforms of course. No matter what happens!
But those old games will play best on Xbox, e.g. fallout will get double the FPS soon.

Huh? I didn’t say it imply MS would revoke rights to old games. I take their “Bethesda games will play best on Xbox/PC” to mean GamePass access and exclusive content or goodies. Kind of like how Fallout 76 included 500 Bethesda space bucks or whatever the currency is called. Or how Ubisoft games on Playstation typically include exclusive missions or content.
 

Three

Member
I don't think its vague at all.

Do you think they are going to say Bethesda will be fully exclusive from now? They ar still making Doom 3 PSVR, Ghostwire and Deathloop. And lord knows what else they have that was signed as multiplatform long ago (Indiana Jones?).
They could say Doom 3, ghostwire and deathloop will not be exclusive but all other games are. Vague is when you don't know the specifics and this is. "Some games will be exclusive" is 100% vague. When we finally know the specifics there will be meltdowns in any case.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Am I allowed to say "I told you so", yet?

Seems like a direct confirmation that they are going to take a mixed, tapered approach going forwards.
I bet my left nut on this yesterday that MS won't make a definitive statement.

I still have my left nut with me ... at least until my next bet.
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
In dev games originally planned as multiplatform releases with significant work done- probably multiplatform, probably exclusive, these are really all that is up in the air at the moment.

Mmo/service games - multiplatform

Remasters/collections - multiplatform

Deals already in place will follow their obligations.

Brand new games- exclusive.

You aren't going to see xbox printing console sellers for their competitors going forward. As time passes and more exclusives are announced, Bethesda games only being on Xbox and pc will be the norm. It's not that hard to understand what is going on here. If you want the next doom, dishonored, elder scrolls, wolfenstein etc. You won't get them on Playstation or Nintendo. Also, just because something is leaving the xbox/pc space doesn't necessarily mean it's coming to a Playstation. Xbox has been known to have stronger ties with Nintendo and stuff like cup head or ori coming to switch but not Playstation indicates Playstation could be left out in the cold entirely.
The actual 2 collections that have been leaked through ESRB ratings are only rated for Xbox Series consoles (last gen copies our already but no PS5 update)

Dishonored & Prey: The Arkane Collection
(Dishonored, Dishonored 2, Dishonored: Death of the Outsider, and Prey 2017)

Wolfenstein Alt History Collection
(Wolfenstein: The New Order, Wolfenstein: The Old Blood, Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus and Wolfenstein: Youngblood)
 
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Knightime_X

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I thought MS wouldn’t have exclusives because they needed to recoup that $7.5b they invested in this deal. That’s what Sony GAF told me.
MS will make Sony pay a small fortune on every game going to ps5.
That's how MS will make back their 7.5b.
Those games will probably never go on sale or be a ps+ title for an extended period of time.
 

FrankWza

Member
Same can be said for Sony and Nintendo. Not releasing their first party games on Xbox and PC is leaving too much money on the table.
Why? They have a small install base and their exclusives are synonymous with their systems. These games aren’t halo, they’re all available elsewhere.
 

Schmick

Member
It's a good way to build hype, every game from now on people will be on tenterhooks waiting to see if it's coming to Playstation or not.
Yes but this is the worst outcome for Game Pass. MS need to be explicit on what's exclusive and what is not exclusive. Otherwise they will be plenty of gamers waiting instead opting to sign up to Game Pass
 

ethomaz

Banned
They wouldnt acutally have a hands on dev kit, as for spec obvs they will know when they ask AMD to produce what they want. It’s easy for AMD to say this is the most powerful chip we put in a console without sony/microsoft actually seeing anything
That makes no sense... if MS ask the most powerful and So y ask the most powerful... which one will be most powerful?

MS and Sony each own specs way before they announced it.
 
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I dunno what to think. This is purposely a vague statement and I presume they will reveal everything at E3.

My thought was that heavy hitters like Fallout and Elder scrolls will be exclusives whilst smaller titles will be multiplat..... But then the complete opposite could happen.

It's obvious that MS are contracted for certain titles though and that's why they can't just cast a blanket because there are many exceptions.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Because people decide what to buy long before they’re opening the wallet.
You can ask the same thing for games -
Why waste announcements for upcoming games when the games aren’t ready yet?

MS needs to build some hype. They’re just sitting there silently like fools wondering why they’re at the last spot each month in sales figures.
They will trickle them out over time. Them announcing the acquisition a day before pre-orders went up was not a coincidence. Once supply can keep up with demand they will start announcing specific exclusive titles. I still think there is one big exclusive slated for this year from them.
 

GhostOfTsu

Banned
When it comes to Xbox, MS should make all of their games multiple platform to make everyone happy, while Sony and Nintendo do the exact opposite.... :pie_eyeroll:
Not the same. Doom, Starfield and Elder Scrolls were never "their games" as much as people want to rewrite history and call them "Microsoft games".

The games were already in development for PS5 way before all of this happened.
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
That makes no sense... if MS ask the most powerful and So y ask the most powerful... which one will be most powerful?

MS and Sony each own specs way before they announced it.

We know sony started way ahead of Microsoft in building next gen hardware, Microsoft waited for full RDNA2 so knew they had the confidence when asking AMD for the most power they would get it
 
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