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Sony set to buy Square Enix
- Thread starter SplunkyMunkey
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killatopak
Member
This has been rumored five months ago and was supposed to be announced on the next Sony event.
Well, it’s been five months and it’s still a rumor so I doubt any credibility.
Well, it’s been five months and it’s still a rumor so I doubt any credibility.
Bladed Thesis
Member
That moment when somebody rushes to post a rumors from days ago.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
AS much as the last decade of FF games has blown, I still lumped in FF16 as a reason to keep my PS5 so whatever. I still prefer to play games on PC but It's not like I would care too much.
Maybe if someone bought them they would take better care of their franchises, cough, Deus Ex,
Maybe if someone bought them they would take better care of their franchises, cough, Deus Ex,
Bryank75
Banned
They probably don't need to buy them... a strategic partnership would be enough but if there was major interest, I can see them being pushed to buy them though.
Some amazing IP's in there.... Legacy of Kain, Deus Ex, Nier.
Other popular games such as Tomb Raider that could have some crossover with Uncharted, Just cause etc.
and then Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest and other properties that have a lot of synergy with the Anime side of Sony.
Maybe they'll make a Nier Anime if there is some deal.
I would love a new Legacy of Kain game written by Amy Hennig.
Some amazing IP's in there.... Legacy of Kain, Deus Ex, Nier.
Other popular games such as Tomb Raider that could have some crossover with Uncharted, Just cause etc.
and then Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest and other properties that have a lot of synergy with the Anime side of Sony.
Maybe they'll make a Nier Anime if there is some deal.
I would love a new Legacy of Kain game written by Amy Hennig.
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Kokoloko85
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Press Square for doubt
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I understand where you are coming from, but pragmatically speaking SE games to my knowledge perform by far the best on PlayStation platforms, so I don’t think SE would be losing out on significant profit like a Bethesda or EA buyout.
I really doubt that Sony will buyout SE especially since they seem pretty close already though.
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Danteyke223
Member
The only reason this might be credible is the way SquareEnix seems to be fucking up on major fronts when it comes to AAA on multiple fronts. At this point I would love to see a Sony funded Deus Ex sequel, or a Normal Avengers game that is given enough time and a proper dev team.
Bryank75
Banned
That would be cool.
jakinov
Member
If they wanted to buy them out they'd have to pay larger than the current market cap which has its value from selling on Nintendo and Xbox. Unless Sony plans on doing this as an investment (like Minecraft) over doing it as a strategic move; then it's a lot of extra money spent and going to take a lot longer to get it back.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Learn to read instead of making a snarky reply.
What I'm getting at is that their market value is very close to their purchase value for Sony. It has nothing to do with Square accepting a shitty deal, and everything to do with Sony not overpaying.
In comparison, Bethesda which sells a ton of games on Sony platforms - Microsoft will have to essentially OVERPAY for something that isn't as valuable to their platform since the market value is based upon sales on Sony and Nintendo consoles, and now they very likely won't sell their games on those platforms.
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The Hamburglar
Banned
Rong. You spelt it Wright
Derktron
Banned
I always figured Sony was going to buy out one of the two either Square-Enix or Capcom. I wonder if it turns out that they do buy out Square-Enix. Will Sony make it solely exclusive PlayStation platforms and maybe PC? Or will do do what people are claiming that Microsoft will continue to share Bethesda games. This is going to be very interesting if true.
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Genx3
Member
These bolded comments are unbelievably ridiculous.
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Derktron
Banned
And don’t forget Nintendo.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Good, hope it happens. Let's really get these wars going!
EDMIX
Member
I mean, it would not be a bad buy, but I think Capcom would be a better purchase. They've done many deals with both company's so who knows. Any other time I'd say this is just unlikely, but after the Zenimax deal, I don't know what is or isn't likely anymore with this gen lol
We've seen some wild shit thus far so.... who knows. Going solely based on the history of the Tech Noir, I'd say no. In general, could happen as Sony has stated they are seeking acquisitions, but I wouldn't believe that rumor from Tech Noir though.
People have always made the argument that Sony themselves should make more Japanese RPGs and counter will always remain the same, the majority of the companies that make jrpgs for PlayStation also happen to sell the majority of their units through PlayStation which means Sony's not gaining as much as you think because let's be honest here as somebody who loves the Final Fantasy franchise I'm probably going to continue to purchase those games on a PlayStation.
soooooooo you are not really getting that much more people to buy into your system then you think because the majority of the people who already enjoy squares games already buy their games on PlayStation to my knowledge only 18% of their sales come from stuff outside of PlayStation which means they're already getting the vast majority of those customers anyway.
So I'm not saying it won't happen simply that if Sony makes the choice not to purchase them I completely understand why.
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
Square is easily the most slanted third party publisher in favor of Sony even if we adjust and remove the exclusivity deals. So no, it's not ridiculous at all
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
That is not at all how any of this works. Long story short, Sony would still pay a healthy 25-40%+ premium to acquire Square Enix.
It is for a multitude of reasons.
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Man bringing back Amy to revive LoK is all I could want from this aquisition
Genx3
Member
First off Square games sell well on Xbox and secondly just because their games sell better on Play Station doesn't mean that Sony wouldn't have to pay the same amount for a buy out as any other company.
Bryank75
Banned
I'd be interested in seeing how Square sales are on Xbox. I'm not even fully aware of which ones do or do not launch on Xbox.
Do we have any details?
Dabaus
Banned
Not that i believe this rumor but what square games have recently sold well on xbox?
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Another clueless person joins the discussion.
YES, Sony would pay a premium to buy Square. This happens with ALL acquisitions.
NO, they would not be paying a 100% premium like Bethesda, given that 7.5B of market cap is very unlikely to produce a discounted cashflow of 7.5B now when you reduce the userbase by around HALF. In the model that Bethesda can only release games on Xbox or PC, their projected discounted cashflow is probably closer to 3.5B.
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Captain Toad
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Fredrik
Member
Oh crap I forgot about that! I don’t care about Final Fantasy but I’ve enjoyed the TR trilogy a lot, even Shadow to some degree. It would be awful to see TR locked to Playstation, with some luck I guess we could see it on PC but knowing Sony that would happen years later, possibly with some bullshit EGS exclusivity crap.
Genx3
Member
Why do I have the burden of proof when the original claim was made by the person I quoted?
All have as SQ-Enix continues to make games on Xbox.
If they didn't they would cut support.
ArtemisClydeFrog
Banned
Genx3
Member
Sorry
I'd be interested in those numbers as well.
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Dabaus
Banned
I get what youre saying. Alot of SE's value is predicated on how well they sell on playstation since thats where the bulk of their sales come from. Depriving them of xbox really wouldnt change things for them.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Crystal Dynamics is owned by SE. Would pair very nicely with Sony/Insomniac's Spiderman team.
And as others have noted SE has a treasure-trove of Anime-friendly IP. Its a very natural fit.
Dabaus
Banned
The burden of proof is on you to tell us what games have recently sold well on xbox because youre the one who said that they do.
Genx3
Member
Why didn't you challenge the person that stated they don't sell well???
Where is the burden of proof for that poster?
I was responding to his assumption.
SqEnix continues to release games on Xbox which should be enough proof they do well on Xbox.
Dabaus
Banned
Stop telling everyone to do your research for you. Youre the one telling us that SE games sell well On xbox, so prove it.
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Genx3
Member
Sure but you didn't challenge the poster who stated otherwise and until you do I won't
You know MS don't give the numbers so if Square doesn't you'll never know which means you pulled your numbers out thin air.
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