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[MeatSafeMurderer]

But they didn't because they keep supporting platforms where Minecraft is already released on.

It's basically the same game.

That's like releasing Skyrim remastered on ps5. The game is already on the platform.

Tes 6 isn't.

Even if you take that stance you're still ignoring the Vita, WiiU and Switch versions that all came out after Microsoft bought Mojang.

 

[DinoD]

You bought them , you keep them.

 

[Null Persp]

If they want to increase gamepass subscribers they need to make them exclusive.

 

[Esppiral]

Every game should be on every platform and users should be able to choose their preferred piece of plastic to play them on.

 

[DaGwaphics]

That just shows Microsoft support their games and doesn't ditch them.

Eso on ps will also still get updates because its already released there.

But only time will tell. Neither of us or anyone in this thread knows it. Only Microsoft.

The free-to-play or MMO style games I can see staying multi-plat, I'd almost expect that.

Every game should be on every platform and users should be able to choose their preferred piece of plastic to play them on.

And everything should be free and games should be played while singing kumbaya.

 

[KAOS]

MS can have their cake and eat it to! They can take a page from Sony and have their titles timed exclusive for as long as they want! When they want more money or are releasing sequels for said titles then they can put it on other platforms!

 

[sainraja]

I mean if we are to be honest , truly honest, Ms will release the game on multiple platforms reaching far, far more users than Nintendo or Sony could ever do during a generation on their platforms
From an interview:

“Is it possible to recoup a $7.5 billion investment if you don’t sell Elder Scrolls VI on the PlayStation?” :

Phil Spencer answer : "I’m just answering directly the question that you had—when I think about where people are going to be playing and the number of devices that we had, and we have xCloud and PC and Game Pass and our console base, I don’t have to go ship those games on any other platform other than the platforms that we support in order to kind of make the deal work for us. Whatever that means.”

As right now their clear goal is to sell Gamepass. period. playstation have gamepass ?

Just because Microsoft creates Windows OS does not mean they have control over the PC gaming ecosystem (they definitely tried AND failed.) Sony can choose to have as much or as little influence over it, same as Xbox. Granted, Xbox is trying to make a presence on the PC side but its not theirs by "default" like you and that quote implies. So by trying to bundle PC with Xbox here, you are just being deceptive and I don't think there is an xCloud ecosystem (yet). All I really said was, I wouldn't rule it out and wouldn't be surprised if later on (depending on how things play out) Microsoft goes ahead and releases their games on all available platforms including the PlayStation. Now, ofcourse, if they do better than Sony this generation, they won't. Right now it is too early to say ANYTHING.

 

[MonarchJT]

Apart from timed exclusive, which game which was multiplat but became exclusive in later sequels? I can only think Hellblade at the moment. Can't remember any other instances.

But what law prohibits games that have been cross-platform from being exclusive? This is objectively a false problem which distorts reality .. and if you think that "but the abandoned users will get angry" can change things you should ask yourself the reason why these same users who care so much about that game are so unwilling to play the game on a developer supported device , and if the company that spends so much money on acquisitions, marketing, deals, and so many more things ...should literally take an interest in those who don't show interest in your products.

Ps. last metalgear was basically multiplat you think that if Sony make another one will be multiplat?

 

[zaanan]

My only hope is with single platform bethesdas games are no longer glitch fests.

 

[MrMephistoX]

It would definitely sell systems and Gamepass subs so it depends on whether or not that additional revenue is able to exceed the opportunity and development costs and lost sales on PS5 and Switch. Nintendo is a different audience anyway and could barely run Skyrim.

 

[The_Mike]

Even if you take that stance you're still ignoring the Vita, WiiU and Switch versions that all came out after Microsoft bought Mojang.

I still don't think Microsoft are gonna shut down the Xbox department.

Which they are gonna do, if they release bethesdas games on other platforms. Stockholders would wonder why the hell they should have interest in xbox as a whole if they are handing out all their games.

There would be totally lack of trust in xbox, and the Xbox department would be shut down.

Given halo infinite so far have cost Microsoft 500 million to make, and still hasn't been released, then by your logic we can expect to see it on ps5 to get back the revenue.

But maybe Microsoft goes compelety third party and ditch the Xbox altogether.

And then cheer when Sony can do whatever the hell they want with the ps given they have no competition.

80 usd games? Expect them to be higher.

No competition in online sub? Price hike on psplus.

I don't care about either platform or the outcome, and I'm at least happy that Microsoft acquires the studios and not Sony, cus that meant I was forced to play on a PlayStation instead of being able to play these games on pc.

 

[MonarchJT]

Just because Microsoft creates Windows OS does not mean they have control over the PC gaming ecosystem (they definitely tried AND failed.) Sony can choose to have as much or as little influence over it, same as Xbox. Granted, Xbox is trying to make a presence on the PC side but its not theirs by "default" like you and that quote implies. So by trying to bundle PC with Xbox here, you are just being deceptive and I don't think there is an xCloud ecosystem (yet). All I really said was, I wouldn't rule it out and wouldn't be surprised if later on (depending on how things play out) Microsoft goes ahead and releases their games on all available platforms including the PlayStation. Now, ofcourse, if they do better than Sony this generation, they won't. Right now it is too early to say ANYTHING.

Oh no , I don't think like you at all. Windows is a Microsoft product that now serves the company as a trojan horse to offer countless products. Office, Azure,Gamepass,Skype,Teams and many, many others. It is so clear that indeed we have the Xbox application pre-installed on every Windows ... do you think Sony could do it? I don't understand how you can even think that Ms has no control over theirs operating system, the reality is that Microsoft never was really interested in gaming otherwise I assure you that she would have become as ferocious as Ms has been in many other areas of their interest and we are beginning to see this ferocity with the acquisitions it is making. Anyway, I never said that Microsoft has control of the world of PC gaming. I said that Ms currently has easily lot more user reach through the multiple supported devices than Sony can hope to achieve with the ps5 while selling more than the ps4 it's just the harsh reality of numbers. To be clear this doesn't mean every game but will sell more than Sony's blockbusters !!!! .To conclude I think that Ms will release on PlayStation the mmo and games knows would not promote and push the platform. If you are expecting a hyped by the masses 90+ metacritic AAA developed by Ms (if it will ever be released obviously hehehe) to come out on PlayStation well I think you don't get Phil Spencer's intentions

 

[MeatSafeMurderer]

I still don't think Microsoft are gonna shut down the Xbox department.

Which they are gonna do, if they release bethesdas games on other platforms. Stockholders would wonder why the hell they should have interest in xbox as a whole if they are handing out all their games.

There would be totally lack of trust in xbox, and the Xbox department would be shut down.

Given halo infinite so far have cost Microsoft 500 million to make, and still hasn't been released, then by your logic we can expect to see it on ps5 to get back the revenue.

But maybe Microsoft goes compelety third party and ditch the Xbox altogether.

And then cheer when Sony can do whatever the hell they want with the ps given they have no competition.

80 usd games? Expect them to be higher.

No competition in online sub? Price hike on psplus.

I don't care about either platform or the outcome, and I'm at least happy that Microsoft acquires the studios and not Sony, cus that meant I was forced to play on a PlayStation instead of being able to play these games on pc.

Who knows. Microsoft have said a few times that they want Xbox to be a brand, not just a console...but at the end of the day it's like you said, only they know for sure either way. For me it makes no difference because I'm on PC and will get to play ESVI regardless...if I even want to. Bethesda has been on a severe downward trajectory over the last few years, atleast in terms of capturing my interest.

 

[JLB]

Just make them exclusive to irritate sonygaf phil.

 

[FrankWza]

If by different you mean the biggest First party department of the big 3, yes and all investments would be wasted if you start releasing games on rival platforms. guys the games will run on any platform that will allow you to run gamepass ... and over their owned operating system "Windows"

If it’s the biggest it’s the biggest existing catalog. And it wouldn’t be them starting to release these games, it’s CONTINUING to release them.

 

[MonarchJT]

If it’s the biggest it’s the biggest existing catalog. And it wouldn’t be them starting to release these games, it’s CONTINUING to release them.

games are games there is no law that forces anyone to release future sequels and no law that forces anyone to release the owner of an IP on a certain number of platforms. Ms will most likely continue production of Doom, Wolfenstein, ElderScroll,Fallout and all the others for theirs platform

 

[FrankWza]

Grow a pair MS and make the games exclusive.

All of them.

Give people more reasons to play on Xbox.

It would move millions of consoles.

I’m hoping they do just from a curiosity standpoint because it creates so many scenarios that I think will be interesting to monitor.

games are games there is no law that forces anyone to release future sequels and no law that forces anyone to release the owner of an IP on a certain number of platforms. Ms will most likely continue production of Doom, Wolfenstein, ElderScroll,Fallout and all the others for theirs platform

I don’t know why you’re bringing legalities into this. But yes, they will continue production. I’m not sure what this has to do with what you wrote earlier. You said they wouldn’t begin releasing games on competing platforms. They wouldn’t. In this instance they would CONTINUE to release those games. If they released halo or gears that would be them starting to release games on competing platforms.

 

[fermcr]

Before people start losing their marbles, isn't it better to wait for the Bethesda acquisition to be finalized?
Anything can happen and Microsoft might not even be allowed to purchase them...

 

[Stilton Disco]

For us as customers, continuing on with the games being multiplatform as they are now is obviously the better choice.

For them as a business, they gain nothing from keeping these releases off Playstation and Nintendo systems.

Xbox is never going to be a serious competitor for the other two, and PC players have zero reason to switch to Xbox.

All exclusivity will do is take away a half dozen games per generation from 2 far more popular platforms, resulting in a far lower return on investment for games than would have been brought in previously, so the next games the studios make will either have drastically reduced budgets and ambitions, or result in studio closures when they inevitably continue to 'underperform'.

Taking hugely successful multiplatform franchises and hobbling them by tying them to just one of it's main platforms in PC, and the 'also ran' of the console market, makes no sense financially for MS, and puts out about 200m console players who still won't buy an Xbox.

But hey, it's all worth it if those few dozen million xbox owners get to blow raspberries at the majority, while they objectively actually gained nothing, I guess.

 

[Wizz-Art]

Because now they take 100% of the revenue from TES/Fallout/Starfield on all platforms?

1.000.000.000.000+ dollar company will survive releasing their games only on Xbox, PC and Xcloud no problem. I bet a shitload of people will buy a XSX/XSS and having those people in your eco-system generates a lot more money in the end.

 

[FrankWza]

1.000.000.000.000+ dollar company will survive releasing their games only on Xbox, PC and Xcloud no problem.

That’s a lot of money. They should lower their prices on all consoles and make gold free for Industry dominance then.

 

[Wizz-Art]

That’s a lot of money. They should lower their prices on all consoles and make gold free for Industry dominance then.

?

 

[MeatSafeMurderer]

1.000.000.000.000+ dollar company will survive releasing their games only on Xbox, PC and Xcloud no problem. I bet a shitload of people will buy a XSX/XSS and having those people in your eco-system generates a lot more money in the end.

Only if they use yours as as primary platform. I own a PS4 but I've made Sony next to nothing. Why? Because I only own a handful of games for it (all exclusives). I might own their hardware but I'm not really in their ecosystem.

 

[phil_t98]

The question should be if Sony bought these studios would they allow them on other platforms or how would their fans feel if they did?

 

[JerryinSoCal]

It makes business sense to put the games out on PS5, they can put them out for free on GP and still make big money on a competitors machine who is still going to outsell xbox this generation by a large margin. Xbox players who say to keep it exclusive are very short sighted, you would have gotten these games regardless so taking them away from PS5 or Switch owners doesn't give you something extra it just takes things away from others.

 

[Wizz-Art]

Only if they use yours as as primary platform. I own a PS4 but I've made Sony next to nothing. Why? Because I only own a handful of games for it (all exclusives). I might own their hardware but I'm not really in their ecosystem.

Yes, like those people who keep saying they subscribe to Game Pass for 1 dollar. They exist I guess.

 

[DaGwaphics]

It makes business sense to put the games out on PS5, they can put them out for free on GP and still make big money on a competitors machine who is still going to outsell xbox this generation by a large margin. Xbox players who say to keep it exclusive are very short sighted, you would have gotten these games regardless so taking them away from PS5 or Switch owners doesn't give you something extra it just takes things away from others.

And to think they could have used these titles to try and close the sales gap with their competitors, why bother when you can just surrender up front.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I think the smarter move for MS would be to make them timed exclusive to Gamepass and then release the games at the full $60 price on competing systems 6 months later.

 

[Negotiator101]

My estimate it will be timed exclusive

Release on xbox and pc

Ps5 a year latter

What will be a timed exclusive?

 

[KungFucius]

They should do what their analysis tells them will net the most profit long term. Skyrim sold a fuckton on Sony platforms, but if they have data suggesting that Sony platform owners will buy on PC or might buy an Xbox to play it in large enough numbers then of course they should keep the games exclusive.

 

[Negotiator101]

I think the smarter move for MS would be to make them timed exclusive to Gamepass and then release the games at the full $60 price on competing systems 6 months later.

6 months is hardly long enough to drive customers to gamepass, 1 year minimum but I don't see Sony getting Bethesda games ever again.

 

[MonarchJT]

I’m hoping they do just from a curiosity standpoint because it creates so many scenarios that I think will be interesting to monitor.

I don’t know why you’re bringing legalities into this. But yes, they will continue production. I’m not sure what this has to do with what you wrote earlier. You said they wouldn’t begin releasing games on competing platforms. They wouldn’t. In this instance they would CONTINUE to release those games. If they released halo or gears that would be them starting to release games on competing platforms.

Sorry frankwza

It makes business sense to put the games out on PS5, they can put them out for free on GP and still make big money on a competitors machine who is still going to outsell xbox this generation by a large margin. Xbox players who say to keep it exclusive are very short sighted, you would have gotten these games regardless so taking them away from PS5 or Switch owners doesn't give you something extra it just takes things away from others.

no it absolutely doesn't ...for the same reason why, even if economically not convenient, game as spiderman that would probably have sold x3 times if released on pc and Xbox, remain exclusive. People should understand that the advantages those esclusive has for leverage the platform compensate in the long run, the economic ones. especially in a platform so much more open and with a very high user reach that has the one that is trying to build Ms respect the competition releasing games on Windows, consoles, xcloud
Playstation today is what it is because you can play just on it ..certain games

 

[CitizenZ]

I think the smarter move for MS would be to make them timed exclusive to Gamepass and then release the games at the full $60 price on competing systems 6 months later.

^^^^This is what i expect to happen. BUT if the needle of GP does not continue to grow those exclusives will be on all systems pretty quick.

 

[Edgelord79]

They should share it, but they won't. It's pretty obvious they are going to use it to shore up sales and GamePass subscriptions.

Those who don't believe that are practicing some form of cognitive dissonance.

 

[Negotiator101]

^^^^This is what i expect to happen. BUT if the needle of GP does not continue to grow those exclusives will be on all systems pretty quick.

It will continue to grow, a new elder scrolls for instance will attract massive numbers.

 

[CitizenZ]

It will continue to grow, a new elder scrolls for instance will attract massive numbers.

Just because its new doesnt mean it will be better its pretty obvious right now.

 

[MonarchJT]

^^^^This is what i expect to happen. BUT if the needle of GP does not continue to grow those exclusives will be on all systems pretty quick.

So to better understand… you are saying that Ms a trillionar company who just bought an entire $ 7.5 billion publisher without batting an eye after multiple other acquisitions. Cannot afford not to release the games that has developed on a rival platform because it would not be economically viable so the games will be timed exclusives ... and if all this were not enough if GamePass does not continue to grow all Ms games will end up on release day on PlayStation (but hey then only the Bethesda ones? why not all of them then? what difference people think there is between Halo and the future Doom? they are both equally Ms first party). All this being aware of the fact that in any way it will go, even if ms sold fewer consoles than the Xbox One to 35 million and the ps5 the same as the incredible ps4, Ms would have equally an enormous advantage of user reach thanks to the release on pc and xcloud.

In the meantime, playstation, which is definitely not a trilionaire company, can continue to have exclusives without releasing games on any other platform and all this by having only the console user. And it deliberately does not release, leaving huge amounts of money on the table, games that would sell a lot but a lot more if released on other platforms just coz EXCLUSIVES MATTERS!
I certainly remain speechless.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I want them to keep releasing everywhere.

As a business they should and absolutely will largely be exclusive to Xbox and PC.

 

[Kerotan]

Whsrs

And Stadia owners?

What's a Stadia?

 

[Shmunter]

If gamepass is the aim, bespoke unit sales can co-exist. Indeed likely need to to generate more revenue.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

Have it both ways. GamePass exclusive for 6 months to a year, then other platforms.

 

[DESTROYA]

Don’t care either way.

But if I was MS I would keep them as a exclusive.

 

[KellyM]

They don't need to. It wouldn't serve any real purpose to share them, especially when it's unbelievably easy to play a Microsoft game without owning any Xbox product.

"Should they?" is a pretty conceptual question. Yes, in an ideal world, there wouldn't be any such thing as an exclusive. But, like you say OP, is that 'should' being stretched to the competition? It was never even a question until Microsoft pulled out their cheque book. Meanwhile, that Twitter random is saying Sony are in the process of investing in Square Enix, and few people concerned about Bethesda are asking whether Final Fantasy SHOULD be a timed exclusive, or indeed a full exclusive.

You play the game you play. You can't exist in any industry playing nice if your competition doesn't. Sony need to start acquiring publishers, and Microsoft need to start hoarding their exclusives. The alternative is one or the other gets left behind.

When Sony did have interest in Square, the games were exclusive for the longest time. Thinking PS1 and Ps2. You didn't see Square games on the N64 or Sega Saturn or Dreamcast. Even the few GBA titles back then were original or Super Nes ports not related to the Playstation titles. So yes Bethesda games should be exclusive to the Microsoft console. Only ported maybe years later.

 

[Desudzer10]

Xbox should keep it exclusive, but with such big IP's that normally would be on multiple systems, i can see games like Elder Scrolls be 1 year or maybe less at 6 months exclusive on xbox then it'll go to other systems.

If they're fully exclusive and stay exclusive, i wouldn't be surprised. If they start multiplatform i wouldn't be surprised either.

 

[Orta]

Whsrs

What's a Stadia?

 

[The Pleasure]

God damn morrowind.

 

[Clear]

All MS care about is selling GamePass subs. And having Zenimax titles on there day#1 will help that aim.

Don't forget they measure success in MAU, not units shifted.

 

[The Pleasure]

Whsrs

What's a Stadia?

Voosted from Kain.

 

[cortadew]

The only thing I hope is Microsoft ensuring the quality of Bethesda's games at release.

 

[NahaNago]

It depends on what they want though. If money was all they wanted then releasing on ps5 makes sense but if they are trying to grown the xbox brand and console numbers then they should definitely keep it exclusive. I have no idea what they want nowadays. Personally I think they should be trying to push gamepass onto ps5.