ethomaz
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TLOU2 was $30 in the holidays while GoT was $40.
That how Sony do with all games... they drop the price after some months and holidays.
Nintendo holds the full price even when the game underperform (obvious not the case of AC).
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Ghost of Tsushima Beats Last of us 2 for digital sales on PSN in the U.S....
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That how Sony do with all games... they drop the price after some months and holidays.
Nintendo holds the full price even when the game underperform (obvious not the case of AC).
dcmk7
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Senhua
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Well, that's more a difference of reception by regions (in regards why GoT still expensive in east). TLoU 2 more receivable in western while in the east it's not (not to mention TLoU also been banned at several muslim country)
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Papacheeks
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Sounds lovely like you didn't even play the game. Trans character is a kid. Issue with the game is the whole thing is beyond super dark, and beats you over the head with it's message/theme of violence and loss.
Also was 5-6 hours too long. Pacing is disjointed. Feels like there is another version of this game that was left on the cutting room floor.
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Captain Toad
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Trimesh
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The pictures from Hong Kong are entirely accurate - according to my friends in the games business here it was a title that started with very good sales and then absolutely tanked. On top of that, a lot of companies had ordered lots of copies planning to sell them into the mainland market since it wasn't officially released there - but the mainlanders really didn't like it either and the initial grey market orders were about the only ones they got. That's the reason there so many copies of the game sitting around - it wasn't just stock for the HK local market but also the stuff they expected to sell into the PRC. It got even harder to clear the stock when the game got officially shitlisted by the Chinese (apparently on the basis it was excessively violent), which prevented it from being listed on on-line marketplaces in China - you can still get it from shops that deal with gray market stuff, but that's a rather smaller market than the online one. Note that this is actually quite unusual - there are lots of games that are not officially available in the China market, but they are easy to get anyway, along with imported consoles.
So yeah, it's accurate, but it reflects some rather unusual market conditions.
yurinka
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It didn't underperform, it's a massive success in any metric and in all of them did a better job than GoT. According to Sony and ND representatives (Ryan and Druckmann) TLOU2 outperformed their expectations.
TLOU2:
-Sold over 4 million copies worldwide during the launch weekend worldwide (Tsushima reached 5M units sold worlwide in November)
-In half a year became the 3rd best selling Sony game ever in dollar sales in the US (above Tsushima)
-It's the 6th best selling game released during 2020 in the US (even if it's exclusive, and above Tsushima)
-Got a 93 on Metacritic and Open Critic (95% of critics recommend, better than Tsushima)
-It's the 3rd game that won more GOTY awards in gaming history (top game of the year, better than Tsushima)
Ghost of Tsushima is doing a great job but TLOU2 performed way better worldwide looking at sales, reviews or GOTY awards. And this is before any possible PS5 version or patch, possible extra sales generated by all these GOTY awards, possible extra sales coming PS5 once it solves its supply constrains, possible extra sales generated by any potential future DLC released with maybe the multiplayer, extra sales or revenue generated from discounts/bundles/included in services, etc.
Since Tsushima was released, it's selling better than TLOU2 every month in USA (GoT got Legends and PS5 patch), but EU is a bigger market than USA for Sony and TLOU2 performed better than GoT there these recent months. Until now TLOU2 is outselling GoT in USA (specially thanks to insane launch week sales), EU and worldwide.
I bought last month GoT (physical) at 37.99€ in Spain (top 4 European country in game sales, top 9 worldwide market). I assume it should be easy to find similar pricing in the rest of EU and USA.
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Matsuchezz
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Some people still force the game package into their ass to keep the hating going. This will never stop.
PleaseWaitStation4
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This fella has an update on the butthurt over the news:
PleaseWaitStation4
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llien
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I don't care what is in videos in OP.
80% drop in sales in its second week, for a game which was hyped into overhype hyperspace is an arguable "success".
Ghosts, that were met happily in Japan, but frustrated the woke Asian crowd in US beating it is quite lovely.
PS
Oh, I was stunned by 1, didn't even bother with 2 (I only liked playing Joel, the girl was annoying), from that high moral of yours, tell me what kind of punishment I deserve for that.
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proandrad
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I understand some of you don't like this game. But stop trying to push false narratives that either this game didn't sell well or that everyone else also disliked the game. Truth is the game sold very well and most people liked it. Making click bait threads isn't going to have more people magically agree with you.
Deus ex and super monkey ball are the only real good games. Maybe system shock 2. Also Prey
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Captain Toad
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Ok, then.... lmao
DForce
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
COD is #1 that’s all that matters
Umbral
Member
It’s just an equal and opposite response to the people claiming it to be the second coming of Christ or God in game form. It’s expected with something this divided.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Maybe, I have see far more heated “SJW!!!! Propaganda!!! Cuckman!!!! California Lefties” than people proclaiming it to be The second Coming... as if the former were a judgement on its quality, which it is not... not in that form at least.
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The irony of this whole thing is that most of those celebrating this “win” fail to understand that the medium is controlled by the same purpled haired looneys that developed/wrote the last of us p2.
I would bet that most of sucker punch studio is packed to the rim with the same people that the last of us p2 was made for. They are psychologically unstable, vindictive and hate those who disliked last of us and were rooting for Ghost. In other words the gaming industry both the media and most of its creators are not very fond of most of its consumers.
Don’t be surprised if in the Ghost sequel Jin comes out of the closet and falls in love with a Mongolian transgender non denominational deer human that was exiled from its village because they were bigots.
I would bet that most of sucker punch studio is packed to the rim with the same people that the last of us p2 was made for. They are psychologically unstable, vindictive and hate those who disliked last of us and were rooting for Ghost. In other words the gaming industry both the media and most of its creators are not very fond of most of its consumers.
Don’t be surprised if in the Ghost sequel Jin comes out of the closet and falls in love with a Mongolian transgender non denominational deer human that was exiled from its village because they were bigots.
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Flutta
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Only reason TLOU2 sold so well during launch was because most people who bought it didnt know that they got tricked into an agenda driven WOKE trash of a story untill it was too late. Dont believe me? watch the reactions online. Still dont believe me, sales tanked after the first week. This is one of if not the biggest Sony IP’s and it tanked in sales like a rock, week after week. So no TLOU2 didnt do well at all compared to GoT. Now thats a success story worth talking about.
Umbral
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The rule of more people complain than praise applies here too. Nobody who has a working PS5 is on here making threads about how happy they are that their PS5 works just like it should.
Evil Calvin
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I bought and played both. Ghosts was amazing and TLOU2 was ok. I don't get the hard-on for TLOU.
Halo is Back
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The salt and fandom outrage has been more entertaining than the game itself. You guys just can't get over this game and I just love it.
sol_bad
Member
So these Youtubers are asking why the media isn't reporting the USA sales of TLOU2/GoT? But they themselves are ignoring the European sales where TLOU2 sold more?
Right.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Both great games. Enjoyed Last Of Us 2 more and so did my partner who doesn't even like video games. She followed along cause the story for both of us really drew us in.
Have not yet finished Ghosts.
Have not yet finished Ghosts.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
The last of us was also on two different platforms and was bundled with ps4's constantly, now lets see if they come out with a ps5 version or a patch along with multiplayer which will drive sales more.If sales continues like that Ghost will pass it and Last of Us 2 Part will not even sell half of the first game.
The Last of Us and Uncharted 4 Reach Incredible Sales Milestones - PlayStation LifeStyle
The Last of Us sales have reportedly topped 20 million on the PS3 and PS4. Meanwhile, Uncharted 4: A Thief's End has reached a sales milestone of its own.www.playstationlifestyle.net
Not everybody will call a 50%+ drop in sales a huge success.
Im retrospect the numbers whilst great for the last of us, pale in comparison considering it took two platforms to sell 20 million and uncharted 4 on one platform sold 16 million and will probably keep selling a little bit along with the last of us part 2
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Umbral
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His idea of a good game is Prey 2017 apparently,
No. No they are not.
Cornbread78
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Are people really that insecure that they cannot enjoy games that feature LGBTQ+ & Community themes? Like, I'm finally getting around to playing it now after all this time and it's an amazing game so far. It's 2021.... The world's changing around us love it hate it, it's time to accept it and move on. I can't wait to see where the game goes to the end...
thismeinteil
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And this is why we haven't had a sales update for TLOU2. The decline was real. And it had a much deeper discount to boot.
It may still be slightly ahead of GOT, but considering TLOU2 is the sequel to one of Sony's best performing games on the PS3, was incredibly hyped, and started with a 1.6M advantage, this is just sad.
It's The Last Jedi all over. Sure, it still made money, but it greatly underperformed and hurt the franchise in the process.
It may still be slightly ahead of GOT, but considering TLOU2 is the sequel to one of Sony's best performing games on the PS3, was incredibly hyped, and started with a 1.6M advantage, this is just sad.
It's The Last Jedi all over. Sure, it still made money, but it greatly underperformed and hurt the franchise in the process.
Hobbygaming
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Though I like TLOU II I do get the sense that there was some sections that were cut and that's why the flashback scenes feel kinda out of place
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DForce
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But you have no numbers or evidence, just mere guesses.
thismeinteil
Member
Lol, yea, no one has numbers. You know why? Cause Sony won't give them. Hmm, wonder why. They had no trouble updating us on plenty of other 1st party games long before this point in it's life. Even more so their recent releases.
What we do know is that TLOU2 dropped off the charts quickly everywhere. It hung around longer in the EU, but doesn't change the fact that the decline was real. And it's been marked down 50% since late Nov, yet still didn't show in some monthly charts. Seems like stores may have a lot of product to get off their hands. GOT, on the other hand, has only marked down $10, and it released only a few weeks after TLOU2.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if we get a 3rd GOT update before we get one for TLOU2.
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Panajev2001a
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I think PS fans are generally not as loud, but maybe they feel coming off PS4 and starting quite well with PS5 that there is not much need to do that. Less of a circling of the wagons attitude perhaps.
I am very happy about my PS5 (albeit sometimes I do have that issue of the plastic label slightly tipping against the fan, but no coil whine and it is not loud), surprised everyday about how much of this is the new Dual Sense alone.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Ghost of Tsushima was marked down $20.
In 2018, God of War was marked down $20 for nearly the entire summer and it was $25 during the holidays.
The Last of Us has been charting across Europe for a bit over two months now. It would be harder to chart during NPD since it's based on purely revenue. It in fact did make the top 10 in Europe and US/CA during November PSN sales charts. And if you were looking at many of the milestone reports in recent years from Sony (outside of the initial release) they were announced by Sony, but from another source with estimated results. Sony happened to jump on the GoT report after the news started to circulate. But I'll wait and what happens when its reported that TLOU sold over 10 million copies next year. It should be funny.
AJUMP23
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I don't think Sony has any issue with this, and in fact they are probably over joyed by it. A game series that is just beginning outsold a series that is more than likely ending. They probably also paid less to develop GoT that TLOU2 so they are earning more profit on GoT. Sony runs a smart first party business and continue to develop good titles that drive HW sales.
If GOT shipped 5M as of November. My guestimate, GOT could be at 6M or 7M already. If Last of us 2 is above GOT then Lou 2 could be more than 7M.
By next June and July it's possible both will be at 10M already. Wow! especially for GOT. A new IP and put SP on the top tier for PS devs.
Also, it doesn't matter what you feel about these 2 games both are a success for Sony.
By next June and July it's possible both will be at 10M already. Wow! especially for GOT. A new IP and put SP on the top tier for PS devs.
Also, it doesn't matter what you feel about these 2 games both are a success for Sony.
Trimesh
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It is sort of amusing though - this seems to have devolved into the sort of flamewar that normally breaks out between competing camps of console fanboys - except in this case it's about two games that are both exclusive to the same platform...
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
they've stopped giving updates on games until tehy reach a decent milestone ala Ghost, we had an update what maybe november and havent heard anything since, that doesnt mean its not doin well. Its just they arent updating it yet, also even for God of war they talked about initial sales and then it been more leaks and software sold throughout the franchise where people guesstimate where it is sitting at.
DeepEnigma
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OP is so saltyits kind a sad, its just a game
Bigdrakegreenblood
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A lot of damage control in here, lol. No surprise. Ghost will outsell it in total when it's all said and done.
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