Captain Toad
Banned
Good luck finding people with experience for something that doesn't exist.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
The Initiative xbox game: "I don't think the internet is going to react very well to it."
Good luck finding people with experience for something that doesn't exist.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
What was the rumour of what they were doing before? Something AAA SP?
T
The New Guy
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not a big fan of episodic releases, but I felt the same way about Hitman and I ended up really enjoying it. So who knows.
Captain Toad
Banned
What is wrong with episodic games? Were people upset that Lord of the Rings was three full-length movies instead of condensing the entire plot into a single film?
FFVII Remake feels like a complete game. It's not even a remake anyway despite its misleading name and advertising. It is part one of a sequel.
If these games follows that model, where it is really several full games, I dont see the issue.
I don't want to see The Telltale model for AAA games though - where it is really one game, but it just abruptly stops several times to release the parts weeks or months apart.
FFVII Remake feels like a complete game. It's not even a remake anyway despite its misleading name and advertising. It is part one of a sequel.
If these games follows that model, where it is really several full games, I dont see the issue.
I don't want to see The Telltale model for AAA games though - where it is really one game, but it just abruptly stops several times to release the parts weeks or months apart.
saintjules
Member
I have mild expectations from The initiative. The amount of talent that is there. Would be wild to not have something decent out of their camp.
Hitchyhero
Banned
Because the game won't come out on a certain electronic box
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Either does "AAA"; these things don't have some dictionary definition... AAA doesn't "Exist" in a concrete sense any more than AAAA does.
The ad simply was asking for people with experience on highest quality / biggest games out.. they used AAAA because it gets that across pretty clearly... more clearly than AAA does. "AAA games" is far more vague and encompasses games with a wide variety of production values because the term doesn't have a well defined budget range behind it.
You guys are parrots for click bait IGN bullshit. They keep selling this "Supposedly the first AAAA studio" narrative when that directly contradicts where the term came from.. a job ad where they were asking for AAAA experience at OTHER STUDIOS lol
Last edited:
Captain Toad
Banned
I'm not parroting IGN either. I'm saying there is no one who made a AAAA game in the past NOR is there anyone currently working on a AAAA game.
Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
Some microsoft excecutive already said they regreted calling the Initiative a AAAA studio.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Just make a great game first; it does not have to be political nor does it have to be about current times. I'm expecting a helluva lot from this studio, it's been hyped as fuck. Seriously better hit it out of the park with all the resources, talent, fresh IP/game etc.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Language exists to communicate things; the reason they said AAAA is quite obvious.. they just mean at the highest possible production value and standards because AAA games do not all fall into that category.
THEAP99
Banned
Xbox Game Studios 'The Initiative' talks 'staying small, staying agile'
Microsoft is setting expectations for its The Initiative studio, "staying small and staying agile" for its early days.
www.windowscentral.com
Captain Toad
Banned
Well, then I can't wait to see what they make that can't be in the same category as lowly AAA games such as Red Dead Redemption 2, God of War, Cyberpunk, etc.
Because, right now, it sounds like a bunch of marketing BS that is taking the false promises to a whole new level.
Last edited:
nikolino840
Member
Is the same Xbox era that you had problems in a telegram chat? Is something that you said once but i don't rememberTell me one thingShpeshal Nick predicted and got it right. Last time I know they predicted Microsoft will buy Bungie and was shot down by a Bungie exec.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I listened to the podcast. He pretty much said he didn't know anything and was just making a prediction.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Tell me one thing
Here's one. Pretty big one too.
But I don't think predicting the internet will react badly to something Microsoft does is really out of left field.
We also didn't predict Microsoft was buying Bungie. We speculated they might be based on investigating stuff we admitted we're not qualified to.
ripeavocado
Banned
Everything Microsoft does, even if it looks good on the surface, turns out to be a dumpster fire.
Noe we are already getting bad news from their game, there is nothing left.
Noe we are already getting bad news from their game, there is nothing left.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
So it's my fault a no name website took my shit out of context and made an article out of it? Which was then turned into a thread?
Imru’ al-Qays
Member
I really enjoyed Hitman because I bought it for like $12, if I had bought it in episodic format I would have hated it.
LavitzSlambert
Member
Sounds like typical tech company bullshit about being first and adding later down the line, but now they’re tying it to a subscription model. There is no incentive to push out a big, completed release every few years when you can string people along with breadcrumbs and have them paying all the while. It’s the same thing happening with TV shows on streaming services. Get your audience hooked on one show, spread out releases of 8 episode seasons (or worse, one episode each week) and split seasons in half.
Not being down on the game itself, I hope it’s awesome. But this kind of behavior is a dangerous path for the industry to go down. It sucked when Telltale did it, and it sucks even more if a large studio makes this move.
Not being down on the game itself, I hope it’s awesome. But this kind of behavior is a dangerous path for the industry to go down. It sucked when Telltale did it, and it sucks even more if a large studio makes this move.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
I feel this will be very entertaining. Can't wait to hear more.
Iced Arcade
Member
I think it's all bullshit BUT.....
I kinda like the idea of an episode every week as long as its done right and obviously on gamepass.
They have a massive army of 1st party studios soon try new things, We don't need every studio making the same 3rd person style game because the last one did good.
I kinda like the idea of an episode every week as long as its done right and obviously on gamepass.
They have a massive army of 1st party studios soon try new things, We don't need every studio making the same 3rd person style game because the last one did good.
bentanchorbolt
Banned
I’m sure it will be great either way they go. Not going to do the normal thing like most people and freak out because it’s not the same cookie cutter delivery method.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
He is a fanboy though and he is criticizing XBox here. I also think he's leaked accurate stuff in the past.
ResilientBanana
Member
Neogaf never learns. If there is anything I've learned over the course of the console launch, there's no such thing as an insider.
Gravemind
Member
Did you create this thread? No.
It's the basement dwellers that scour the internet all day for negative news about their least favourite company, and then post clickbait "fud" threads on here daily. All it's doing is giving a soap box to all the autistic 12 year old fanboys so they can screech and cry about fake news.
It's not your fault. You just happen to have made the comments.
McCheese
Member
Episodic makes sense with gamepass, ties people in for longer and allows for high production values at the expense of shorter bitesize games.
I would honestly expect every first party title to either be GAAS or episodic given how hard they've gone in for gamepass, and that they are probably not planning on hemorrhaging money forever
I would honestly expect every first party title to either be GAAS or episodic given how hard they've gone in for gamepass, and that they are probably not planning on hemorrhaging money forever
Last edited:
turtlepowa
Banned
"The Initiative's games will not be similar to Sony's blockbuster third-person action adventures such as The Last of Us Part II or God of War."
Thank god. Actually i'm not a big fan of episodic games, but with Game Pass it's ok for me. It's just like Netflix.
Thank god. Actually i'm not a big fan of episodic games, but with Game Pass it's ok for me. It's just like Netflix.
Kagey K
Banned
I have to say that was big relief for me.
Everyone hyped up Neir, so I bought it and was pleasantly surprised by it. Then Hellblade came along, and everyone said it was so good, so I bought it and I was like yep this is a Sony game.
There is something about that weird looking digital backgrounds with characters moving over top that Sony always seems to have.
I can’t explain it, but I can see it.
Kagey K
Banned
Seems a bit early to call based on a podcast, with an opinion that even the person that said it, says it was only an opinion and has no facts to back it up. (In this thread)
Fucking embarrassing.
Remember when Gaf was full of credible rumours and insight?
I barely do either, now it’s speculation aNd console warring 24/7
Last edited:
LarknThe4th
Member
I guess we will see, I'm very excited for what they are working on
Nhranaghacon
Banned
If it's not an Massive Epic undertaking/project, I'm not going to be interested either way - but hopefully, Microsoft realizes they can't just keep pumping out episodes of "Life is Strange" or whatever that franchise is called and expect to sell systems.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
If this turns out to be true, I can't wait for people to explain how episodic games are so superior and the future of next-gen gaming 
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I could see it having a Fortnite/Overwatch art style.
Would actually prefer it as well. Focus on mechanics over visual fidelity.
Would actually prefer it as well. Focus on mechanics over visual fidelity.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
longdi
Banned
Im fine with that.
Most 'mature' titles are try too hard cringe worthy.
Just give us something fun and makess good use of GP.
Imo it is a fair trade off. You dont need a 40hours game with crazy production costs to be AAAA rated.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
How do you know?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
What I dont get about this whole XGS vs PSS fight is:
One company doing things one way, doesnt detract from the other company doing things the other way?
I still want God of War, The Last of Us, Uncharted etc etc......but I also want games like Ori, Gears, Halo, Senua, Forza Horizon etc.
So if the Initiative is doing something different im all for it, because them doing their own spin doesnt suddenly mean I cant play Playstation games.
And "fanboys" of Microsoft who want God of War might want to rethink their priorities if you want Playstation style games there is literally a console for you....why would you be upset that you cant play Playstation games on Xbox?
You should probably have bought a Playstation then.
I know it might be harsh to say, but I dont think anyone should tie themselves so deeply to a single console/device if you want to play "all" the great games that come out.
Being purely a single console player is a disservice to this great hobby of ours so why would anyone willingly do so then be upset the the console they chose doesnt have the games from the console they "didnt" choose?
One company doing things one way, doesnt detract from the other company doing things the other way?
I still want God of War, The Last of Us, Uncharted etc etc......but I also want games like Ori, Gears, Halo, Senua, Forza Horizon etc.
So if the Initiative is doing something different im all for it, because them doing their own spin doesnt suddenly mean I cant play Playstation games.
And "fanboys" of Microsoft who want God of War might want to rethink their priorities if you want Playstation style games there is literally a console for you....why would you be upset that you cant play Playstation games on Xbox?
You should probably have bought a Playstation then.
I know it might be harsh to say, but I dont think anyone should tie themselves so deeply to a single console/device if you want to play "all" the great games that come out.
Being purely a single console player is a disservice to this great hobby of ours so why would anyone willingly do so then be upset the the console they chose doesnt have the games from the console they "didnt" choose?
YeulEmeralda
Member
LOTR was three books. The Hobbit on the other hand did cut up a story into three parts and people hated it.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Only ones who should be ready to be disappointed are the idiots, which there are a lot of, who have been praying and hoping for Xbox first party to suddenly become Sony first party.
Buy a PlayStation if that’s what you want so much.
Buy a PlayStation if that’s what you want so much.
Redlancet
Banned
gamepass happened,you wont get AAA games in gamepass every 5 months
ypu mean,doing excellent AAA games not ridden wit GAs bullshit? i guess anyone sane expect microsoft to have a stellar first party output,they have the money
Last edited: