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[DispatchNinja]

In a recent earnings presentation provided by CDPR, it has been confirmed that both the PS5 and XSX version of Cyberpunk 2077 are running via backwards compatibility which would mean that no day one support will come to boost frame-rates or resolutions for the new consoles.

Looks like we are definitely waiting till 2021 for that full fat next-gen experience boys.

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/11/cd-projekt-group-presentation-q3-2020.pdf

CDPR already said there will be a day one patch to boost performance on next gen consoles, and then full next gen versions in 2021. Just because they’re running in backwards compatibility doesn’t mean they won’t get that support. Days gone also runs via backwards compatibility and takes advantage of ps5 hardware at the same time.

 

[Burger]

I swear they originally said there will be a enhancment patch day one but a full blow next gen patch the following year.

I'll pass until next gen drops with all the patches baked in the disc

You are not wrong:

Last night in an investor call, CD Projekt studio executive Michał Nowakowski revealed that Cyberpunk 2077 players on current-gen consoles will be able to play the game on Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 with better visuals as soon as either console launches. This is basically a free next-gen upgrade for anyone who already owns Cyberpunk 2077 and is transitioning up to the next console generation.

As soon as either console is available, there'll be a day one update to Cyberpunk 2077 to improve visuals for the PS5 and Xbox Series X versions of the game. However, according to Nowakowski, later on down the line CD Projekt will deliver a "more robust update for next gen," which the developer plans to release "free of charge to anyone who purchases the PS4 or Xbox One versions."

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/cyberpunk-2077-will-get-a-more-robust-next-gen-upgrade

 

[DonJorginho]

CDPR already said there will be a day one patch to boost performance on next gen consoles, and then full next gen versions in 2021. Just because they’re running in backwards compatibility doesn’t mean they won’t get that support. Days gone also runs via backwards compatibility and takes advantage of ps5 hardware at the same time.

They probably won't have the time and manpower to do so as they have struggled to get this game out itself on time.

 

[thuGG_pl]

Pathetic tbh, all the delays and no patch. What a joke if u bought a next gen console to play CP2077

They communicated that ages ago, jokes on the next gen buyer that didn't pay attention.

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

You are not wrong:



https://www.usgamer.net/articles/cyberpunk-2077-will-get-a-more-robust-next-gen-upgrade

Aha so I'm not going crazy!

 

[THE DUCK]

Wow, I had no idea. The biggest game of 2020 doesn't have a next gen version this year? Surprising, I just assumed it would.

 

[Boss Mog]

It's pretty stupid because they could easily run the last gen versions at 60fps on the new gen if they added an unlocked framerate mode.

 

[Blond]

They said this months ago

 

[thuGG_pl]

Wow, I had no idea. The biggest game of 2020 doesn't have a next gen version this year? Surprising, I just assumed it would.

It's not like next gens are years on the market. Pretty understandable that their main targer was current gens and PCs.

 

[thuGG_pl]

It's pretty stupid because they could easily run the last gen versions at 60fps on the new gen if they added an unlocked framerate mode.

That can happen actually. We are talking about true next gen patch, with bettter graphics overall.

 

[Krappadizzle]

Wow, I had no idea. The biggest game of 2020 doesn't have a next gen version this year? Surprising, I just assumed it would.

Next-gen is the smallest user base so it makes sense that they focus on the other 6 platforms first.


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Some of ya'll sound like entitled children. The game is being released across 2 generations, 8+ platforms and using tech never used in games. If you are upset that you have to play the last-gen version the best possible way on a next-gen console, maybe take a minute and take a deep breath and get a grip.

 

[Gravemind]

Pretty sure they said months ago that the next gen version wouldnt come until a good while after launch...

 

[ruvikx]

yet you're planning on waiting for a next gen console which will not run as good as PC. makes sense.

if you "need to experience night city the right way" then the only way to do that is play on PC.

Nope. The entire game was built around the ps4 & Xbox One (base consoles) architecture.

You can put lipstick on a pig, i.e. increase framerate, resolution & effects/details (or add raytracing), but the game (it's animations, AI, mission structure, scope, gameplay) are all designed around 2013 hardware as the lowest common denominator (& their intended market). And here's the funny part: the game is probably awesome as hell & will be one of "the" best open world RPG's of our era. But the people who attempting to justify their thousands of dollars invested in PC by claiming it's the intended best way to play the game... not really.

We know this because GTA 5 (a game built with the ps3 & xbox 360 as the base standard) have had many re-releases, many mods & many graphical improvements... but it's still the same goddamn experience beneath the superficial visual coating.

 

[DeepEnigma]

CDPR already said there will be a day one patch to boost performance on next gen consoles, and then full next gen versions in 2021. Just because they’re running in backwards compatibility doesn’t mean they won’t get that support. Days gone also runs via backwards compatibility and takes advantage of ps5 hardware at the same time.

Patch will probably be just for unlocked frame rate.

 

[Abriael_GN]

In a recent earnings presentation provided by CDPR, it has been confirmed that both the PS5 and XSX version of Cyberpunk 2077 are running via backwards compatibility which would mean that no day one support will come to boost frame-rates or resolutions for the new consoles.

Looks like we are definitely waiting till 2021 for that full fat next-gen experience boys.

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/11/cd-projekt-group-presentation-q3-2020.pdf

Mh? not sure why it's new? It was confirmed the same day it was aired. And the same goes for the PS5 version.

 

[skneogaf]

I just bought it on steam and will play it in my mid range 9700k and a 2080ti pc.

Hoping to get 4k@60fps dlss 2.0 hdr10 and dolby atmos.

I say dolby atmos as the dolby atmos application on the xbox has a demo of this and it is absolutely amazing!

Top 3 atmos examples I've heard.

Anyone know for sure if this has it on pc?

Edit.

 

[Tefl0n]

Theyve only been saying that forever

 

[waquzy]

I want the 60fps performance mode, I don't care about the resolution

 

[TVexperto]

I just bought it on steam and will play it in my mid range 9700k and a 2080ti pc.

Hoping to get 4k@60fps dlss 2.0 hdr10 and dolby atmos.

I say dolby atmos as the dolby atmos application on the xbox has a demo of this and it is absolutely amazing!

Top 3 atmos examples I've heard.

Anyone know for sure if this has it on pc?

Edit.

Can you explain what dolby atmos exactly is in combinatino with a game? i just use headphones, is it improving the audio?

 

[Krappadizzle]

Can you explain what dolby atmos exactly is in combinatino with a game? i just use headphones, is it improving the audio?

It's just really great positional audio. It works really well, but it's supported by like 20 games, so it's not made the impact it should.

 

[mr.dilya]

In all honesty the next gen systems are trash right now. No point in getting one whatsoever. You gonna climb mountains to get one and ultimately do what with it? What a joke.

 

[KO7]

In all honesty the next gen systems are trash right now. No point in getting one whatsoever. You gonna climb mountains to get one and ultimately do what with it? What a joke.

I don’t feel that slighted because I never did upgrade my PS4 and Xbone to Pro and X versions. But man, I’d be lying if I didn’t say a huge reason for getting my XsX was for Cyberpunk. Oh well, a next-gen patch will eventually come, and without an additional cost.

 

[captainnapalm]

All this trouble is because CDPR worked with Nvidia for the next-gen stuff, and the consoles are using AMD hardware. I think it's just the raytracing and stuff that is going to take a while. A lot of the recent improvements will be there day one so not sure it's worth waiting just for RT.

 

[Kagero]

I can’t wait. Will play the PS4 version and drop back in for another round for the PS5 version.

 

[skneogaf]

Can you explain what dolby atmos exactly is in combinatino with a game? i just use headphones, is it improving the audio?

On screen objects are tracked on screen in a 3d space with you being in the centre of that space so if something is above it should sound above all the while things around you are in the correct location sound wise.

I prefer my 7.2.4 surround sound setup but it's also supported on headphones.

I believe dolby uses Windows sonic as it's base so games that object based 3d mapping will work with Windows sonic on pc and xbox plus dts-x now support headphones so they will also use the Windows sonic as their base and some prefer their use of the sound.

 

[vpance]

I think they will bump the res for next gen consoles at launch. Maybe to 1440p or higher.

 

[Krappadizzle]

Nope. The entire game was built around the ps4 & Xbox One (base consoles) architecture.

You can put lipstick on a pig, i.e. increase framerate, resolution & effects/details (or add raytracing), but the game (it's animations, AI, mission structure, scope, gameplay) are all designed around 2013 hardware as the lowest common denominator (& their intended market). And here's the funny part: the game is probably awesome as hell & will be one of "the" best open world RPG's of our era. But the people who attempting to justify their thousands of dollars invested in PC by claiming it's the intended best way to play the game... not really.

We know this because GTA 5 (a game built with the ps3 & xbox 360 as the base standard) have had many re-releases, many mods & many graphical improvements... but it's still the same goddamn experience beneath the superficial visual coating.

What you have just vomitted out is not only hilarious, but also wrong. How is playing a game at better resolutions/framerates/with more features NOT the best way to play ANYTHING? Are you playing games at lower resolution and framerates thinking, "Ahh, this is the way it's meant to be played."? And your comparison to GTA 5, is not only misplaced, but also wrong too. You can make GTA5 into a very substantially different and or better playing game than any of the of the console version.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

They said it previously. Next gen edition iirc will come in Spring 2021

Sounds good. I knew 2021, but don't remember when.

Even better. By that time you could probably snag the game for half price on a deal. There's no way CDR keeps 2077 at full price for 5 months.

 

[Hendrick's]

Meh, I'm waiting for the actual next gen version. By then they should have worked out most of the likey numerous bugs as well.

 

[THEAP99]

Where in that presentation did they say there would be no boost. They said a few months ago it would look better on next gen

 

[ruvikx]

What you have just vomitted out is not only hilarious, but also wrong. How is playing a game at better resolutions/framerates/with more features NOT the best way to play ANYTHING? Are you playing games at lower resolution and framerates thinking, "Ahh, this is the way it's meant to be played."? And your comparison to GTA 5, is not only misplaced, but also wrong too. You can make GTA5 into a very substantially different and or better playing game than any of the of the console version.

Uh-huh, yeah, okay.

It's funny I literally just started playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey on the base ps4 (for various reasons), despite the fact a couple of years ago I played the same game maxed-out on PC at 60 fps (although I didn't finish it). And guess what? It's the same freaking game. Graphics mods shouldn't be confused with content mods either, i.e. sure, GTA 5 on PC can have some wild stuff added, but the base game is not different. Same mission structure, same AI, same gunplay etc. Cyberpunk is a current gen game with upwards scalability in terms of framerate, texture quality, resolution, ray tracing etc.

But it's still a ps4/Xbox One era game. PS5/Series X Cyberpunk will run at a higher framerate (with performance mode, no doubt) & more graphical effects (ray tracing), but the core game will be freaking identical - patches notwithstanding. So the people who're saying "duh I wouldn't touch the ps4 or One version with a barge pole!" whilst kidding themselves they're getting a different game on their own PC (or waiting for next gen) are just funny tbh.

Carry on.

 

[Starstruck]

Everyone already knew that

 

[Riky]

It will look better on next gen, presuming the resolution is dynamic then Series X will run the X1X version at full pelt.
Hopefully the framerate is unlocked to but I have a feeling it will just be 30fps capped.

 

[THEAP99]

CDPR already said there will be a day one patch to boost performance on next gen consoles, and then full next gen versions in 2021. Just because they’re running in backwards compatibility doesn’t mean they won’t get that support. Days gone also runs via backwards compatibility and takes advantage of ps5 hardware at the same time.

What's that boost then?

 

[Krappadizzle]

Uh-huh, yeah, okay.

It's funny I literally just started playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey on the base ps4 (for various reasons), despite the fact a couple of years ago I played the same game maxed-out on PC at 60 fps (although I didn't finish it). And guess what? It's the same freaking game. Graphics mods shouldn't be confused with content mods either, i.e. sure, GTA 5 on PC can have some wild stuff added, but the base game is not different. Same mission structure, same AI, same gunplay etc. Cyberpunk is a current gen game with upwards scalability in terms of framerate, texture quality, resolution, ray tracing etc.

But it's still a ps4/Xbox One era game. PS5/Series X Cyberpunk will run at a higher framerate (with performance mode, no doubt) & more graphical effects (ray tracing), but the core game will be freaking identical - patches notwithstanding. So the people who're saying "duh I wouldn't touch the ps4 or One version with a barge pole!" whilst kidding themselves they're getting a different game on their own PC (or waiting for next gen) are just funny tbh.

Carry on.

NO SHIT it's the same game. But PLAYING it will be a better experience on a platform that holds higher framerates/resolutions/input options. PC gamers haven't been saying, "you have to play PC version of X game because you get better storylines than the console version" they say you get a better PLAYING experience. You said it's not. By all means, carry on with your shitty opinion with no basis in fact or reality. By your logic, you could read a synopsis of a games storyline and have "the same experience"

 

[PooBone]

I didn’t realize this was a question people had.

 

[Party McHardy]

I know nothing about game development but how hard can it be to flick some switches and make a new new gen patch in a couple days? Lazy developers lol

 

[ruvikx]

NO SHIT it's the same game. But PLAYING it will be a better experience on a platform that holds higher framerates/resolutions/input options. PC gamers haven't been saying, "you have to play PC version of X game because you get better storylines than the console version" they say you get a better PLAYING experience. You said it's not. By all means, carry on with your shitty opinion with no basis in fact or reality.

My initial response was to a post which stated PC is the 'right way' to experience Night City. If that were the case, it wouldn't be possible to release the game on 2013 consoles. Think, then post.

i.e. eye candy is just one superficial visual element, the "core" of the game (its actual mechanics, AI, gameplay etc.) are all identical across platforms & visually the character models & animation don't change either (just some surface details). It's not like PC players will be getting Ryan Gosling circa Blade Runner whilst console players get 1990's Solid Snake ps1.

More power to the ultra sensitive framerate/resolution crowd who won't touch 30 fps even if their life depended on it, but if a high-end PC is "how" Cyberpunk needs to be experienced... yeah no. I mean Fuck everyone who ever played a game on console then, right? i.e. throughout the decades, "if only" they'd gotten themselves a PC to experience xyz release "the proper way"...

....

 

[Dave_at_Home]

Guess my poor 480 will have to run it a 1080p med 60 then

480 user here too. Probably just gonna wait till I get my hands on a PS5.

 

[IDKFA]

You'll be waiting a while. I'm guessing at a MINIMUM of 6 mos. but more likely longer.

Fine by me. I'd rather wait for the best possible experience.

 

[Krappadizzle]

My initial response was to a post which stated PC is the 'right way' to experience Night City. If that were the case, it wouldn't be possible to release the game on 2013 consoles. Think, then post.

i.e. eye candy is just one superficial visual element, the "core" of the game (its actual mechanics, AI, gameplay etc.) are all identical across platforms & visually the character models & animation don't change either (just some surface details). It's not like PC players will be getting Ryan Gosling circa Blade Runner whilst console players get 1990's Solid Snake ps1.

More power to the ultra sensitive framerate/resolution crowd who won't touch 30 fps even if their life depended on it, but if a high-end PC is "how" Cyberpunk needs to be experienced... yeah no. I mean Fuck everyone who ever played a game on console then, right? i.e. throughout the decades, "if only" they'd gotten themselves a PC to experience xyz release "the proper way"...

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Jesus Christ dude. You are sensitive. You couldn't name a platform I haven't owned. Been playing consoles as long as consoles have existed. You need to chill. I'm talking about objective, measurable things in commonly agreed standards(resolutions and framerates). I didn't realize you were talking about feelings. By all means...as you were.

Fine by me. I'd rather wait for the best possible experience.

I don't think there's any harm in waiting, as long as you can avoid spoilers. But the way I figure it, I'm gonna almost assuredly play through this game at least 2 times. I've played through Witcher 3 4 times, and Witcher 1 + 2 twice each. So if one was on a next-gen console I wouldn't feel bad about playing the best possible version on console just to have the experience, at least you know you are probably going to play the most ideal way on a console anyway with a stable 30fps/resolution, so there's that.

But if you have other things to play, it def. isn't the worst idea to wait as you'll probably play a version that has a lot less bugs and the benefit of a few performance patches.

 

[Endless Fluff]

´CDPR told investors that the game will have small graphical improvements on next gen consoles at Day1. Why would they say that if this wasn't the case?

You can listen to the call here

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/06/20200618_1900-cd-projekt.mp3

Or read about it here

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/09/conf-call-h1-2020_en.pdf

the current version, which will be released in November, will be playable from the beginning when next-gen consoles are released; you will be able to play the current-gen version on next-gen from day 1. And you can expect a bit higher quality than on the current gen. However, the full-blown next-gen version is planned for next year and it will be developed internally.

"and you can expect a bit higher quality than on current gen".

They never specified this, hence people aren't actually sure what that means. Will it simply be 4k/60, or will it actually have minor graphical improvements? Just because it's running in BC mode doesn't mean that there won't be any graphical differences. We've seen graphical differences between PS4 and PS4 Pro games, so it's possible it may be the same when played on PS5.

 

[Gediminas]

their PR and developers should talk. developers says that game is getting Soft patch on PS5, yet PR says it won't, just BC.

still playing day 1

 

[DispatchNinja]

What's that boost then?

Burger posted CDPR’s quote on it under my post.

 

[Elios83]

´CDPR told investors that the game will have small graphical improvements on next gen consoles at Day1. Why would they say that if this wasn't the case?

You can listen to the call here

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/06/20200618_1900-cd-projekt.mp3

Or read about it here

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2020/09/conf-call-h1-2020_en.pdf

"and you can expect a bit higher quality than on current gen".

They never specified this, hence people aren't actually sure what that means. Will it simply be 4k/60, or will it actually have minor graphical improvements? Just because it's running in BC mode doesn't mean that there won't be any graphical differences. We've seen graphical differences between PS4 and PS4 Pro games, so it's possible it may be the same when played on PS5.

I also had the impression that originally they were talking about small next gen patches at launch for PS5/XSX while the full next gen version (basically the PC version at high settings with ray tracing)would arrive next year, but honestly right now after the latest trailers I fear that they're just talking about the improvements allowed by the BC solutions in the next gen consoles which *potentially* are not small btw.
Point is that if they cap frame rate and resolution in the PS4/Xbox One versions, improvements through BC won't be noteworthy.

 

[ReBurn]

i'm getting it on PC. can't wait to play at 60-120fps with far better raytracing and higher density/unique NPCs + cars around the city. will sure make it feel more alive and believable.

hopefully that will be possible. will there be more unique and dense NPC's for people who paid more for their graphics card than they paid for their car? or will they get the same number of NPC's as everyone else?

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

In all honesty the next gen systems are trash right now. No point in getting one whatsoever. You gonna climb mountains to get one and ultimately do what with it? What a joke.

I disagree

Being able to play current gen games with faster load times and better framerates has been amazing so far. Plus the launch titles for PS5 has been great and I didn't even start playing Demon Souls yet.

 

[Senua]

In all honesty the next gen systems are trash right now. No point in getting one whatsoever. You gonna climb mountains to get one and ultimately do what with it? What a joke.

Play Demons Souls which is a remake anyway. Poop

 

[Hostile_18]

Eurogamer also put out a big article saying it would get a small day 1 next gen patch with a true next gen patch next year that would take full advantage of the consoles.

Disappointing but not a deal breaker.

 

[Elios83]

In all honesty the next gen systems are trash right now. No point in getting one whatsoever. You gonna climb mountains to get one and ultimately do what with it? What a joke.

Totally false.
I don't know about XSX because I don't have it, but I've had a great experience so far on PS5 with Spiderman and Demon's Souls. Huge leaps in graphics, really impressive controller features, incredibly fast loadings, no noise compared to PS4/PS4 Pro, super fast UI with instaneous screenshot and high quality videocaptures, the BC improvements are transformative on some last gen games (see FFXV running at 60fps).
It's an other world compared to last gen although obviously it's just the starting point and some aspects need to be fully developed.