Support NeoGAF

[Certinty]

Is this for real, Sony?

At least give me the option to back them up to a USB if you're going to put such a simple feature behind a paywall.

Given you can share PS+ from one account for a whole console, there are going to be tons of PS5 users without PS+. If something happens to your console or you want to take your save data elsewhere, you can't without paying for PS+ even if you already have all the other benefits to PS+ from another account.

I just had a situation where my sister came over and did the first few levels of Astrobot as a guest using her PSN login. When I was logging out it told me her data would be deleted if I didn't save it. I pressed save and the only option I was given was through PS+ in which she is not a member and all her data was lost. I haven't even told her yet as I'm sure she'll come back to play even more of the game (she loved it) at a later time.

Also, if I want to sell my PS5 and get another at a later date I’ll have to subscribe to PS+ on every account people use on my PS5 and then do subscribe again when I get another PS5 to download the saves.

This is stupid and ridiculous.

 

[Kuranghi]

No option to copy to USB like on PS4?

 

[Topher]

This is a really lousy approach to game saves. I don't subscribe to PS+ as I don't game online. So what if I have multiple PS5s or I eventually upgrade to PS5 Pro whenever that comes out. I don't have a way of transferring saves at all? Seems very short-sighted.

 

[FrankWza]

No option to copy to USB like on PS4?

Nope. They need to get on this.

as a guest using her PSN login.

That’s probably why. Would work if there was another user on the PS5

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

Edit: I was wrong.

 

[Rodolink]

No option to copy to USB like on PS4?

even on PS4 you needed PS+ to do that no?

 

[Calverz]

Yes. Also they dont host any captures. You need to upload to youtube there and then. Pretty poor for a touted “premium” experience.

 

[Xeaker]

even on PS4 you needed PS+ to do that no?

No it is free to copy to USB on PS4

 

[ParanoidAndroidz]

Is this for real, Sony?

At least give me the option to back them up to a USB if you're going to put such a simple feature behind a paywall.

Given you can share PS+ from one account for a whole console, there are going to be tons of PS5 users without PS+. If something happens to your console or you want to take your save data elsewhere, you can't without paying for PS+ even if you already have all the other benefits to PS+ from another account.

I just had a situation where my sister came over and did the first few levels of Astrobot as a guest using her PSN login. When I was logging out it told me her data would be deleted if I didn't save it. I pressed save and the only option I was given was through PS+ in which she is not a member and all her data was lost. I haven't even told her yet as I'm sure she'll come back to play even more of the game (she loved it) at a later time.

This is ridiculous.

Soo instead of logging her in as guest just add her profile, pretty sure on ps4 it even tells you once your logged out as a guest all the data would be deleted.

 

[Certinty]

Soo instead of logging her in as guest just add her profile, pretty sure on ps4 it even tells you once your logged out as a guest all the data would be deleted.

Now I know that. Back with the PS4 I could just save the data on a USB, here I had no options at the end just lose the save or pay £7.99.

 

[Rawker]

they will patch this feature in at a later date.

 

[rofif]

Edit: I was wrong.

Never my boy. Misinformation is not you fault

 

[Night.Ninja]

For the payers

 

[Fbh]

So it's pretty much like on the Switch? that sucks.
I don't mind cloud saves being tied to Ps+, but at least offer a basic local backup feature Sony

 

[TimFL]

At least they got with the times and have instant cloud saves on PS5... no need to upload the saves, they‘re automatically uploaded.

 

[reinking]

I was bummed about this too. We have two PS5's in the house and I do not want to pay for 3 PS+ Subs even getting them cheap on CDKeys.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Is this for real? Dodgey as hell. They are really pushing + this time with lots locked behind it.

 

[DragoonKain]

Yeah, it sucks. I hope they give users other options who don't have PS+. Especially with some of the launch issues if you have to send your console in you'll lose your data without PS+.

 

[fersnake]

i didnt notice, i copy my saves to my usb ( ps4 ) to ps5 but i didnt try the otherway around. maybe just for security reason they disable it right now, maybe they will add it later.

 

[killatopak]

I guess we were part of the meme all along.

Wait for the updates.

 

[InfiniteUnrest]

You can't copy saves to usb on Xbox one either, and I'm assuming on XSX/S also.

Likely to make it harder for people to modify save files in games like Borderlands and Dead Island for "hacked" items.

 

[Antitype]

Welcome to console gaming. Everything is held hostage behind paywalls or held hostage on a certain platform etc. Consoles are the ultimate hostage experience.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

I think this is as good a place as any to ask this: I was thinking of buying the black Friday PS+ deal for my PS4 but having looked, it doesn't seem as if the 18 game library available to the PS5 is also part of that deal. Am I missing something because I can't find that deal anywhere.

 

[rapid32.5]

they will patch this feature in at a later date.

And MS will patch their tools, it works both ways. I doubt Sony will allow cloud saves outside of PS+ membership. They could have done it on the PS4.

 

[M1chl]

And MS will patch their tools, it works both ways. I doubt Sony will allow cloud saves outside of PS+ membership. They could have done it on the PS4.

They should take part of their cost of games, to create small storage for that game saves. I think that's how Steam and MS is doing it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I think this is as good a place as any to ask this: I was thinking of buying the black Friday PS+ deal for my PS4 but having looked, it doesn't seem as if the 18 game library available to the PS5 is also part of that deal. Am I missing something because I can't find that deal anywhere.

The PS+ "free" game collection?

It's for the PS5 only and you need a PS5 to see it. Can't even add them via webstore/app unless you have a PS5.

 

[hemo memo]

You can't copy saves to usb on Xbox one either, and I'm assuming on XSX/S also.

Likely to make it harder for people to modify save files in games like Borderlands and Dead Island for "hacked" items.

It is free on Xbox I believe. So either Sony update the PS5 to use usb transfer or make cloud saves free.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Blame Save Wizard.

 

[VincentMatts]

For the players

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

I’m not really interested in backing up my saves I would like the option to stop this auto upload to the cloud and just have the saves on the console instead of both.

 

[DeepEnigma]

For the payers

FTFY

 

[GribbleGrunger]

The PS+ "free" game collection?

It's for the PS5 only and you need a PS5 to see it. Can't even add them via webstore/app unless you have a PS5.

OK, cheers. How long is the PS5 collection available for?

 

[Evangelion Unit-01]

Edit: I was wrong.

I would say get Jim on the line to fix this but these plebs should just buy plus like real fans, right?

 

[DeepEnigma]

OK, cheers. How long is the PS5 collection available for?

I don't believe they ever gave a date for if or when they will pull them.

If going by the Vita (they had a similar PS+ Collection), it was well over a year I believe and they they put out a PSA with ample time for those who had yet to redeem them.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

I don't believe they ever gave a date for if or when they will pull them.

If going by the Vita (they had a similar PS+ Collection), it was well over a year I believe and they they put out a PSA with ample time for those who had yet to redeem them.

If it is for longer than 3 months, I'd be buying it now because I'm sure I'll be able to afford the PS5 in a couple of months. I wish Sony was clearer on this.

 

[JLB]

How is this still a thing? I just loaded my 10 years+ Xbox 360 Monkey Island SE load file from the cloud on Xbox Series X. Easy, fast, free, seamless.

 

[DeepEnigma]

How is this still a thing? I just loaded for free my 10 years+ Xbox 360 Monkey Island SE load file from the cloud on Xbox Series X. Easy, fast, free, seamless.

Probably in the same way where you need Live to play F2P games or online beta's/demos. Both companies need to release their silly paywalls on both of these things. Sony for the saves (especially since backup to USB seemingly is not ready or coming) and MS with the F2P paywall.

 

[LectureMaster]

I think they will restore the USB backup method via system update. It is just really dumb if they really choose to discard it.

 

[JLB]

Probably in the same way where you need Live to play F2P games or online beta's/demos. Both companies need to release their silly paywalls on both of these things. Sony for the saves (especially since backup to USB seemingly is not ready or coming) and MS with the F2P paywall.

Oh yeah, thats one of the most stupid things on Microsoft side, incredible that you need Gold to use Netflix.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Oh yeah, thats one of the most stupid things on Microsoft side, incredible that you need Gold to use Netflix.

They dropped the Netflix paywall I believe, just not F2P.

If Sony doesn't offer USB in a future update, then they need to drop their paywall as well for the backup saves.

 

[Kerotan]

Just sub to ps plus. A year's sub is 30% off. Great service and well worth it.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Just sub to ps plus. A year's sub is 30% off. Great service and well worth it.

This message was brought to you by the Sony corporation.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Yep. They absolutely need to add USB save backups (and PS5 game cold storage, at a lower priority). A nice bonus would be free save syncing, it's not like saves are huge, and I'm not subbed to PSN all the time.

 

[Bogroll]

Get Markus Rashford on the case.

 

[truth411]

they will patch this feature in at a later date.

/Thread.

 

[Kerotan]

This message was brought to you by the Sony corporation.

It's true though. I'm subbed until October 2023 so not availing of that offer otherwise I'd top up.

 

[Redlight]

It is free on Xbox I believe. So either Sony update the PS5 to use usb transfer or make cloud saves free.

Yep, free on Xbox and automatic.

 

[MagnesG]

So it's pretty much like on the Switch? that sucks.
I don't mind cloud saves being tied to Ps+, but at least offer a basic local backup feature Sony

At least on Switch you could local transfer inter consoles

 

[brap]

Edit: I was wrong.

Reported to Jim. Do better next time.

 

[DragoonKain]

Blame Save Wizard.

Save Wizard is awesome. Cuts down on repetitive time-wasting grinding in RPGs and doesn't really allow cheats for games that have online multiplayer.