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sircaw
Banned
yep, and he is probably still around here still, under an alias, floating about.
Dirty fish.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Direct contact with copper, even though in short term copper seems resistant, could result in degrading it overtime. So Sony went with "Better be Sure than Sorry" and coated the heatsink with silver, a proved substance against Gallium.
DaGwaphics
Member
I was referring to max temps during next-gen games with the 85 comment. It is reported that PS4 Pro hits 85 in the most demanding games of the gen GoW etc.
I try to keep my temps lower as well. But device manufactures will prioritize noise over temperature like current GPUs do with the ridiculous default fan curves or how the PS4 Pro did with the revision.
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J_Gamer.exe
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kyliethicc
Member
So I've seen some people say the PS5 should have higher memory bandwidth.
The new RTX 3070, that Nvidia claims is same as 2080 Ti performance, has the same 448 GB/s bandwidth over 256 bit bus, same 14 Gb/s GDDR6.
No one seems to be worried about that card's performance. I doubt Sony or Nvidia would choose 448 GB/s bandwidth if it was going to be an issue.
The new RTX 3070, that Nvidia claims is same as 2080 Ti performance, has the same 448 GB/s bandwidth over 256 bit bus, same 14 Gb/s GDDR6.
No one seems to be worried about that card's performance. I doubt Sony or Nvidia would choose 448 GB/s bandwidth if it was going to be an issue.
sircaw
Banned
Can you stop spreading fud. I have been watching you these last few weeks saying Ps5 is going to melt and cause global warming. I am sick of it.
Please just stick to facts, ps5 running temp is around 3 degrees Celsius, this was after 10 hours of Demon souls carnage and said ps5 console was sitting on top of the new xboxs vent too, while it was in idle at 62 degrees.
No more DISCUSSION
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Ps5 has to share that bandwidth with the cpu. The 3070 doesn't.
existensmaximum
Member
60 °C for accessible metal parts and 75 °C for accessible plastic and other non-metal parts, no? And 90 °C for the supporting surface. (The actual EU regulations!)
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DaGwaphics
Member
Can you stop spreading fud. I have been watching you these last few weeks saying Ps5 is going to melt and cause global warming. I am sick of it.
Please just stick to facts, ps5 running temp is around 3 degrees Celsius, this was after 10 hours of Demon souls carnage and said ps5 console was sitting on top of the new xboxs vent too, while it was in idle at 62 degrees.
No more DISCUSSION
I speak only the truth (my truth as my ass tells it to me).
This is a real picture taken moments after the first PS5 was booted:
In all seriousness, I won't buy either system until probably March or so when supplies get more normal. That gives me time to see what the software looks like and if early systems show immediate QC issues.
MasterCornholio
Member
sircaw
Banned
I speak only the truth (my truth as my ass tells it to me).
This is a real picture taken moments after the first PS5 was booted:
In all seriousness, I won't buy either system until probably March or so when supplies get more normal. That gives me time to see what the software looks like and if early systems show immediate QC issues.
Probably a good idea with all the limited stock around too, i doubt that will be cleared up till next year, at least on the ps5 side of things, no idea how xbox is doing in regards to that.
Dave_at_Home
Member
I enjoy coming home from work and seeing another twenty pages of nonsense since I last posted. ONWARD! TO FOUR THOUSAND PAGES!
leizzra
Member
They don't have all rights (I think they have movie rights on LotR period). Thery is also Daedalic Entertainment for Gollum game (I think it's LotR book license) and there is Leyou with rights for MMO that they'll be making with Amazon (which has rights for TV series, but didn't had one for games). It just shows that you can have many Middle-Earth games from different publishers a
sircaw
Banned
I enjoy coming home from work and seeing another twenty pages of nonsense since I last posted. ONWARD! TO FOUR THOUSAND PAGES!
i know, i am trying to polish things up with little gems, nuggets of gold, but some of these technical people keep ruining it.
Death to them all
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I have 55" and while UE5 demo looks impressive it has less-than-4K softness, pretty visible to me. But it's the best gameplay footage graphic-wise on planet earth so far.
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MasterCornholio
Member
Can the CPU and GPU access the ram at the same time?
kyliethicc
Member
Just a heads up.
XSX has 4 shader arrays, 14 CUs per shader array. 4x14=56. 52 active and 2 DCUs disabled.
PS5 has 4 shader arrays, 10 CUs per shader array. 4x10=40. 36 active and 2 DCUs disabled.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yeah just going by what Wikipedia claims in a couple of places (that WB owns video game rights.)
Could have expired too.. these things aren't always public knowledge.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
Member
cpu uses little bandwidth, and 3070 gpu specs are greater than ps5 requiring even more bandwidth then ps5's gpu.
MasterCornholio
Member
Ok because I thought they had to take turns accessing it.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Reshade is a super cool plugin basically and is pretty universal. Can use it for all kinds of things but I use it in cemu for better looking Wii U games. I think the old Minecraft ray tracing and Crysis ones df did used a specific reshade shader called Marty McFly path traced gi. I've never tried cause it wasn't free. Cost 10$ I think haha.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
MasterCornholio
Member
Do you take a condom and fill it with water and green tea leaves and shove it up your bum?
I'm trying to figure out how you would make green tea in your butt.
Yoboman
Member
In that case you just shove the leaves in, pour some 70º water up your ass then shart it back into a mug
Id prefer not to make it this way but Phil Spencer is leaving me no choice
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Metroiddarks
Member
That is a lie and you know it, we have the first video of a PS5 in production been turn on, your picture came from a devkit:
I speak only the truth (my truth as my ass tells it to me).
This is a real picture taken moments after the first PS5 was booted:
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
It's not possible it has screen tearing!!!That is a lie and you know it, we have the first video of a PS5 in production been turn on, your picture came from a devkit:
MasterCornholio
Member
DaGwaphics
Member
That is a lie and you know it, we have the first video of a PS5 in production been turn on, your picture came from a devkit:
You should have seen it before they added the liquid metal:
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Cpu is going to require more and more bandwidth next gen as games finally start utilizing the cpu after gens of stagnation. You will see richer worlds, more interactivity, more realistic a.i, more destruction. All of that is going to require dedicated ram bandwidth. The system ram in kzsf was talking up 1.5 gb. That's over 30%.
Desktops can easily run this on the slower ddr system ram but consoles don't have that luxury.
sircaw
Banned
You should have seen it before they added the liquid metal:
Reported and can you please fucking apologize for making this community TOXIC.
DaGwaphics
Member
No lie, I posted a joke gif once that had Nazi imagery in it and got banned from the thread for a week. If you don't see me for a minute... Although bans from this thread are permanent now I think, so if you only see me in the Xbox thread...
sircaw
Banned
Nowcry
Member
I understand that in RDNA2 you can deactivate only one RDNA2CU of a DCU, which was not possible in RDNA1. PS5 would adopt a symmetric configuration of 4 Shaders Array of 9 CU.
I don't remember where I read that they wanted to give the CU flexibility and to be able to put more than 10 per shader array or to be able to deactivate 1 in 1. But I read it a long time ago.
Metroiddarks
Member
I don't think so, that happens to a 3090 if for a moment its cooling solution stop.You should have seen it before they added the liquid metal:
Also not forget XSX running its first true next gen game.
sircaw
Banned
that is crazy, mind you i had cassy cage the other day i was the seed of all evil and i should say sorry for what i had done. You know Adams, rib, serpent apple all that. Sigh.
Yoboman
Member
Reported for gore. You've done it now
DaGwaphics
Member
Also not forget XSX running its first true next gen game.
Jokes on you, Xbox doesn't have true next gen games (for a year or two).
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Metroiddarks
Member
You liar what about the dolphin game.Jokes on you, Xbox doesn't have true next gen games.
MasterCornholio
Member
ethomaz
Banned
I was about to write but I found better to link...
Metroiddarks
Member
Fixed
geordiemp
Member
Console CPU and GPU can also share the same data, cant do that so easy in a PC, so its swings and roundabouts.
Anyway, its not an issue as the 80 CU Big Navi has a 256 bit bus, AMD been working on compression and infinity cache, so memory bandwidth will no longer be a defining factor of comparison.
Things are changing. Cache is minimum 6 x faster that RAM, its measured in TF/s not GB/s. If you can have more data in cache and work with it than RAM, well there it is.
Its AMD secret sauce of this gen. I just hope consoles get some.
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kyliethicc
Member
Well Xbox showed at hot chips in their GPU they disabled 2 DCUs, 1 per shader engine.
So the XSX GPU has 4 shader arrays, 2 per shader engine.
1 - 7 active DCUs
2 - 6 active DCUs
3 - 7 active DCUs
4 - 6 active DCUs
I assume PS5 is same 5,4,5,4 active DCUs per SA.
J_Gamer.exe
Member
Bladed Thesis
Member
The Great Dictator is a classic.ORLY?
How can anyone hate old Charlie boy?
MasterCornholio
Member
Yes Charlie Chaplin is amazing. There's something about old comedy that can't find in modern films.
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