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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Reading this further and they gave an example taken from an actual game and the compression ratio was 3.16 to 1 when using Kraken + Oodle Textures, that means the 5.5 GB/s x 3.16 = 17.38 GB/s of compressed data. That is HUGE!

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B-b-b-but Velocity Architecture!

 

BGs

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Wh...what is that supposed to mean??
it means that you want money (to comment on the patent) and I can only give you a piece of candy (I cannot comment on anything). So I tease you and you slap me. :messenger_grinning_sweat:

Sony has patented many things, some may end in something and others in nothing.

In any case, for your peace of mind, when they go on the market they will have everything they need to stay for many years.
 

ksdixon

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Ok so just say you hate TLOU2 and go, no need to post obviously fake leaks to try to get people to agree with you


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I'll continue to buy it so try to make sure that the gameplay engine doesn't get thrown out with the bathwater amongst the backlash against TLOU2's ass story.

I still want TLOU Factions Multiplayer game, I still want TLOU3, even if they have to use new characters, since Joel, Ellie and Tommy are ruined beyond repair in TLOU2.
 
TLOU2 will be lucky to sell 15 million when its all said and done and thats with heavy discounts. The first one was a beloved adventure, the sequel is SJW Propaganda where you kill off characters you play as from the first one. Its not going to light up the charts, especially with new consoles and actual games to play on them coming soon.
This tweet was right.
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HAL-01

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I'll continue to buy it so try to make sure that the gameplay engine doesn't get thrown out with the bathwater amongst the backlash against TLOU2's ass story.

I still want TLOU Factions Multiplayer game, I still want TLOU3, even if they have to use new characters, since Joel, Ellie and Tommy are ruined beyond repair in TLOU2.
oh dont worry, the game did swimmingly, there's only a few folks from fringe communities who've made it their life's journey to make "woke go broke" and theyre trying their best to convince themselves it didn't sell
 

ZehDon

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I'm in Australia too. I think prices will settle below $100. Got a lot of PS4 physical releases day 1 at $70 from JB HiFi so $125 is ludicrous, I agree with you there.

I think the jump to 125 is too big and the market will push back. At least I hope.
JB has been pricing under RRP for a little while, so I expect that to continue. I shop there, and at Target, as they usually go under RRP as well. But, EB Games is pushing Sony's prices, and PSN too of course. To be clear, when I say "Sony's Prices", I mean for their first party, published games. AUD$125.00 is a complete deal breaker for me.
 
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darthpaxton

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Enter trillion dollar company number 3. Amazon doing some shit. Watch Dog legions day & date, ubisoft games day & date. Pretty cheap price ,can be used through webpages.

And so next gen content war kicks off. A lot of studios/indies/publishers about to get easy cheques. Shit's about to get messy.

Ubisoft games are not included in that cheap price. The "channels" are going to cost more. I would guess that Ubisoft is going to match the price of Uplay+ at $14.99/month. That's on top of the base subscription you seem to need for $5.99/month, so $20.98/month total, and that is announced as an "introductory price."
 

aclar00

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Are you being dense on purpose? It's not that Joel died. That's standard revenge story trope. It's "how" he died in a disrespectful manner like a bitch, and even getting spat on by a Druckman stand-in. "And" that in order to get him into that situation in the first place, Joel and Tommy had to act like complete idiots, complete opposites of TLOU1 J&T.

That's one. The second major problem people have is everything to do with Abbey. No one's that buff in the apocalypse. No one has the superhuman ability to magically track Joel across the USA 4 years later. She's a shitty person, shagging Owen when he has a pregnant partner. they changed the doctor's ethnicity and cleanliness of the hospital room in flashbacks to make fireflys seem benevolent saviours, when they were terrorists and the doctor willing to kill a knocked out girl without the resources to make a cure when he wasn't willing to do the same to Abbey. The entire game is twisted to make Abbey sympathetic and none of it rings true.

Druckman wanted his early draft of TLOU1 where Tess hunts and kills Joel, which Bruce Straley threw out because it wasn't realistic enough. He's a spiteful little man-child with a victim complex.

My my 2nd GOTY year right behinf Horizon
 

ksdixon

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My my 2nd GOTY year right behinf Horizon

And that's fine, the gameplay is still fire. I WISH the game was more gameplay to cutscene balanced. I still want the MP and future games in the series, but this wasn't it. And anyone saying the game is some flawless masterpiece and any haters are homophobes etc are completely rediculous.


The story beats/character personality changes, and pacing of the gameplay and story jumping from person to person are all shite. In my opinion.

Take Seattle Day 1. At this point I feel like I've barely played the game yet inbetween watching someone's bad fan fiction. When in the first game I'd be in Bill's Town by now. But at least I'm on my revenge mission now, yeah? Nah, let me sit in this music shop and sing to my lover. Joel's vengeance can wait until my Netflix teen drama is over.
 
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Neo Blaster

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Oh ya, I was intrigued by the announcement in the other thread. A lot of things done and said by both Sony and MS start to make sense. Oh boi, MS is going to have a tough battle.
MS thought they couldn't compete with Sony and Nintendo on the same terms, then went full on service model. And now comes Amazon with a better proposition than Google, signing checks to grab Ubisoft games day one. Phil can't take a break.
 

Neo Blaster

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MS thought they couldn't compete with Sony and Nintendo on the same terms, then went full on service model. And now comes Amazon with a better proposition than Google, signing checks to grab Ubisoft games day one. Phil can't take a break.
Phil knew this was happening, which is why's he said Amazon and Google were the actual competitors in the future
 

Shmunter

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Lol with what cloud servers? Microsofts? You aren’t winning the streaming game if you have to lease servers from your direct competitor.
If Sony leases from ms/Amazon or whomever, it means in scales of economy it’s cheaper than building your own infrastructure. All sorts of businesses in direct competition with Amazon rent server resources from these giants. These deals bear no relationship to the businesses they serve and their success. Xbox business is not ms Office just as PlayStation business is not Sony insurance business.
 

Neo Blaster

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It just occurred to me with Microsoft opening tgs, rumors swirling of a Sega acquisition of all things, and Japanese devs reaffirming support for Xbox that Microsoft of all companies look to have more mindshare at tgs than Sony and even Nintendo. That’s how bad Sony’s messaging, radio silence, frugalness towards expanding their first party is.

Dude, one just don't go full Slimy Snake.

Nothing terribly insightful that this thread, and the many, many (many) others haven't covered this passed week, but a good summary line:

It's clear Sony is banking on positioning itself as the "premium experience", and Microsoft are gravitating to the "great value" position. However, with the hardware crown sitting with Microsoft, and it's massively bolstered first party, I'm not sure Sony can sing that song for long. I'm certainly not paying AUD$125.00 for their games. I think we're actually starting to see the disruption of Gamepass taking effect. If Microsoft can land one or two truly great games early in the generation, I think the tide will be ready to turn.
Did you really write 'early in the generation'? What have MS shown so far that makes you think they aren't screwed for the next 2-3 years, probably what will take for their next gen FP games to come out? Halo, that game in development hell from a dev that had a 500 million budget and five years in the making and gave us Craig?

If PS Studios suddenly vanished from Earth I could agree with you, but here they are ensuring we'll have great next gen experiences 'early in the generation'.
 

Dodkrake

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Yeah, right, which company was saying 'exclusives are anti-consumer', but just bought a big publisher which could potentially lock people out of a lot of franchises?

The narrative is even better. Spiderman is a fully upgraded remaster, costs 20 quid, "OMG U nEeD tO pAy AgAiN".

But OG PS4 Spiderman will run just fine on the PS5. Just plug and play, get the best version available and benefit from faster load times.
 

Gediminas

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Dumb delivery would be forcing people to buy a $70 Forza Horizon 4 Ultimate Edition in order to play Forza Horizon 3.
you can buy Spider Man for 10-15$ and upgrade for 20$. so 35$.
or
if you own Spider Man, you can upgrade for 20$
or
if you own Spider Man and don't want to pay for upgrade you can play it on PS5 anyways for free.

but you tried to be smart but delivered dumb comment. congratulation! you won box of chocolate :poop:
 

Dibils2k

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you can buy Spider Man for 10-15$ and upgrade for 20$. so 35$.
or
if you own Spider Man, you can upgrade for 20$
or
if you own Spider Man and don't want to pay for upgrade you can play it on PS5 anyways for free.

but you tried to be smart but delivered dumb comment. congratulation! you won box of chocolate :poop:
i mean this is not correct, you cant upgrade without owning Miles Morales
 

ZehDon

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... Did you really write 'early in the generation'? What have MS shown so far that makes you think they aren't screwed for the next 2-3 years, probably what will take for their next gen FP games to come out? Halo, that game in development hell from a dev that had a 500 million budget and five years in the making and gave us Craig?
Within your time-frame of the next 2-3 years, virtually every single one of the now-23 first party studios from Microsoft is due to launch a new game. If half - so, 11 - of them do, and only half are great, Microsoft have six great first party exclusives over the next three years. You're talking memes, while everyone else is taking Hellblade, Everwild, Forza, Fable, Doom, and Starfield. Your response will most likely be something something "they don't count" something something, and continue pretending that Xbox has no exclusives.

If PS Studios suddenly vanished from Earth I could agree with you, but here they are ensuring we'll have great next gen experiences 'early in the generation'.
If I wanted to be as in-denial as yourself, it's easy to be negative about any platform holder. Let me try: what have Sony shown so far that makes you think they aren't screwed for the next 2-3 years? Ratchet and Clank? God of War: Ragnarok's logo? An USD$70.00 next-gen "remaster" of a two year old game? Their first parties take over five years to develop meaningful titles... so we're years away from the studios that matter dropping anything worthwhile. Why do you think they were so desperate to try and buy timed exclusives? And what if I don't want yet another cinematic third person action game?
See? What I wrote is complete nonsense, because its easy to downplay "the other team".

Anyway, you keep posting about Craig memes little buddy. I'm sure Jim's noticing.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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I've seen a lot of silly takes in this thread, but this is one of the better.



Splendid!

So why can't XSX be better than Sony and overhaul FH3 like Spiderman PS4 then give it for free? I mean lots been bitching about the remastered lately. And Smart Delivery is just like PS5 Boost mode, free, not much work.

Show me one game from 2018 or before that got extensively overhauled and given for free from Xbox. That post was sarcastic, btw, maybe be smarter next.
 
So if we’re talking about Modern Warfare here (takes up 155GB on my PS4):

155/3.16 = It’ll only take up 49GB if Kraken compression and Oodle Texture’s used

Yea I think we’ll do just fine with 825GB.

Isn't Modern Warfare Warzone getting it's PS5 version soon? I mean it's not announced or anything but IW sure did sound like they are looking forward to warzone on next gen consoles!
 

AeneaGames

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I can’t confirm this 100% but heard whispers and second hand. That Xbox Had more consoles on hand for retailers for pro order then Sony did. I was told Sony only had a 3rd world wide compared to what Xbox had available yesterday. Also Another wave of PS5 pre orders will be available later this week and early next week. Heard Xbox might have a second wave of pre orders for the second week of October. I have been told after the Xbox Second wave that retailers don’t expect another wave for Xbox until launch day. As Sony supposedly keeping in contact with Major Retailers.

Like I said can’t confirm this 100% but this is what I’m hearing. If @HeisenbergFX4 heard or can added anything please do.

And who did you hear this from, hmm?

From a dev? Why would a dev know this sort of thing? And who would actually have access to both companies' their preorder numbers to even be able to make a comparison like this?

I know who, no one....

You've been lied to, I'm sorry to say that...
 

UKGAF.

literally at 8 this morning I secured another disk version. cam ,headset, an extra controller. I had to get my Sis to cop another controller. Everything is limited to one order per address. Also used paypal the credit card system was shambles. 1 of my mates lost his order ,because the bank app took to long with the 2 step authentication. Then all stock was gone. Now he has to spend his day looking online. Peak.

All I got left to cop is the 2 charge docks. I hope this is easier on release day & for those going into stores. Otherwise its just people wasting their time. When they can be doing other things.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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But there must be game devs to begin with. It might be possible that we see a bidding war for game devs and studios in the very near future. Before this generation we had only Sony and Microsoft competing for the same user base. Now we have Microsoft, Sony, Amazon, Google and yes even dumb facebook. Everyone wants a bite of the huge gaming cake... And all of them want to see a return of their investments.

Do you guys remember the start of Netflix? At the beginning a lot of other content was on Netflix and now we have Netflix, Disney+, Hulu, CBS All Access, HBO, Amazon Prime, etc... You want to watch show A? Subscribe to Netflix. You want to watch show B? Subscribe to Disney+.

I can see a much more seperated gaming market where you won't get all the content you want on just your console. There could be more exclusives down the line to every service and console out there.

And all of them well be eating massive debts just like those Netflix, Disney, etc. I will watch this circus until the end while playing quality games on PS5.
 
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