Neo Blaster
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Like they 'didn't' do with Minecraft?
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smallpotatosan
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Oh ya, I was intrigued by the announcement in the other thread. A lot of things done and said by both Sony and MS start to make sense. Oh boi, MS is going to have a tough battle.GamepassThat's why it's risky business. Amazon is much bigger than MS. Good luck.
Doncabesa
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Gamepass
Microsoft is a slightly larger corporation 1.54 v 1.51 trillion market caps, and Forza Horizon 3 isn't being patched for next-gen like 4 is (which is running 4k/60).Wow! XSX can't even run FH3 at 4K@60fps!
Doncabesa
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Minecraft was an already existing platform. Games like Fallout 76 and The Elder Scrolls Online will stay multiplatform but there is no reason to believe any other title will.
Bo_Hazem
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Dumb delivery would be forcing people to buy a $70 Forza Horizon 4 Ultimate Edition in order to play Forza Horizon 3.
Tripolygon
Banned
Good stuffHas anyone shared this?
How Oodle Kraken and Oodle Texture supercharge the IO system of the Sony PS5
The Sony PS5 will have the fastest data loading ever available in a mass market consumer device, and we think it may be even better than yo...cbloomrants.blogspot.com
saintjules
Member
Little sad to hear he didn't get one.
Entroyp
Member
Really interesting....
Tripolygon
Banned
Created a thread for it @Dan_of_Rivia
www.neogaf.com
How Oodle Kraken and Oodle Texture supercharge the IO system of the Sony PS5
Credit to @Dan_of_Rivia Charles Bloom of RAD Games Tools has posted a blog to talk about PS5 Kraken decompression hardware and why it is more powerful than people realize. The Sony PS5 will have the fastest data loading ever available in a mass market consumer device, and we think it may be...
kretos
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VargasPaPuM
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www.forbes.com
A Narrative Of Sony And PS5 As ‘Anti-Consumer’ Is Starting To Take Shape
Sony is in a strong position with the PS5, but it's starting to feel like they know that a little too well.
www.forbes.com
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Amazon announces its own game streaming service: Luna
It's got its own controller and "channels" for some gameswww.gamesradar.com
Enter trillion dollar company number 3. Amazon doing some shit. Watch Dog legions day & date, ubisoft games day & date. Pretty cheap price ,can be used through webpages.
And so next gen content war kicks off. A lot of studios/indies/publishers about to get easy cheques. Shit's about to get messy.
Amazon will kill GamePass in no time with that price.
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Three Jackdaws
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Forbes lolops
A Narrative Of Sony And PS5 As ‘Anti-Consumer’ Is Starting To Take Shape
Sony is in a strong position with the PS5, but it's starting to feel like they know that a little too well.
Krisprolls
Banned
1080p30 FH3 lol, feel the power of next gen on Series S.
MistBreeze
Member
Oh man with AMAZON entering the battle I see Microsoft and sony even nintendo must cooperate to push Amazon and google out of gaming
they must keep the console business the same as is now
they must share games inside the console ecosystem even between each other to guarantee an industry they share benefit of as it is
it is dangerous to them if they do not cooperate
they must keep the console business the same as is now
they must share games inside the console ecosystem even between each other to guarantee an industry they share benefit of as it is
it is dangerous to them if they do not cooperate
Shmunter
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Amazon announces its own game streaming service: Luna
It's got its own controller and "channels" for some games
Enter trillion dollar company number 3. Amazon doing some shit. Watch Dog legions day & date, ubisoft games day & date. Pretty cheap price ,can be used through webpages.
And so next gen content war kicks off. A lot of studios/indies/publishers about to get easy cheques. Shit's about to get messy.
Sony been in the game for years, if the market was ready they’d be in a position to strike.
Everything is in place, All that’s required is a marketing blitz and the Sony brand takes over.
VargasPaPuM
Member
On Microsoft is in the game with Azure. the other 2 Sony and Nintendo are out of the cloud gaming.
The fight is Azure and AWS
Dabaus
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It just occurred to me with Microsoft opening tgs, rumors swirling of a Sega acquisition of all things, and Japanese devs reaffirming support for Xbox that Microsoft of all companies look to have more mindshare at tgs than Sony and even Nintendo. That’s how bad Sony’s messaging, radio silence, frugalness towards expanding their first party is.
MistBreeze
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yes I know even sony renting azure servers from microsot
but I mean microsoft well benefit from keeping people tide to the console traditional system alongside their subscription service
It is not good to any body amazon enter this industry
LED Guy?
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jose4gg
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The man that inspires me every day, the best actor of 2013
I wish he resolves the situations
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Bo_Hazem
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Sony and Nintendo don't need to. They can succeed traditionally. Game devs would still prefer the full $69 price than Xbox GamePass and Amazon.
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MistBreeze
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`i know man game devs and publishers alike like traditional full price
but I don't want subscription model prevail over the traditional system because this means the death of AAA games
FranXico
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If anyone deserved one, it's him.
zeroeffect
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Damn I thought I was getting cockblocked on no email invites. Seeing this makes me realize it's not so bad.
Dolomite
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Mojang = XGS
Minecraft= every one...as it was before the acquisition. Why mess up a billion dollar money tree. Bathesada + Is a different beast
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Three Jackdaws
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Reading this further and they gave an example taken from an actual game and the compression ratio was 3.16 to 1 when using Kraken + Oodle Textures, that means the 5.5 GB/s x 3.16 = 17.38 GB/s of compressed data. That is HUGE!Has anyone shared this?
How Oodle Kraken and Oodle Texture supercharge the IO system of the Sony PS5
The Sony PS5 will have the fastest data loading ever available in a mass market consumer device, and we think it may be even better than yo...
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Sinthor
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Reading this further and they gave an example taken from an actual game and the compression ratio was 3.16 to 1 when using Kraken + Oodle Textures, that means the 5.5 GB/s x 3.16 = 17.38 GB/s of compressed data. That is HUGE!
I'll tell you, that is STUNNING performance. In the real world, I think we've seen a lot via the Demons Souls trailer. Assuming that was straight gameplay (and no reason to think it's not) what was shown in warping between the stones was instantaneous. That's instantly (or for all intents and purposes 'instant') loading new levels, including new sounds, character models, maps, textures, EVERYTHING in literally the time it takes to put a flash and graphic flourish on the screen. That will be absolutely game changing, pardon the pun.
Don't get me wrong, the XSX taking just a few seconds, even if it was to be 10-15 seconds is also a vast improvement and game changer for next gen versus all previous generations. But virtually INSTANT? That is INSANE. I see why people are saying there really shouldn't be pop in and things like that. Because if the system can instantly load object, textures and the like..there really shouldn't be any pop in. Can't wait to get my hands on this and see it myself!
PS5 I/O and game loading be like...
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I remember those. Was he in charge of that?
3liteDragon
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So if we’re talking about Modern Warfare here (takes up 155GB on my PS4):Reading this further and they gave an example taken from an actual game and the compression ratio was 3.16 to 1 when using Kraken + Oodle Textures, that means the 5.5 GB/s x 3.16 = 17.38 GB/s of compressed data. That is HUGE!
155/3.16 = It’ll only take up 49GB if Kraken compression and Oodle Texture’s used
Yea I think we’ll do just fine with 825GB.
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DForce
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I'm sure this will help Xbox reach 300k units LTD in Japan.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Well not really. I don't think audio can be compressed this much. But it will decrease game sizes too.
Knitted Knight
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The man that inspires me every day, the best actor of 2013
Dude was a happy face, and great ambassador for PlayStation during his brief time. Wasn't nice to see him go. Now we got stiff Hermen and no grace BSer and liar Jim. The power shuffle and consolidation within SIE hasn't been too great for the public face of the division. There is not a single suit that inspires optimism, is likely-able or relatable etc. Eric Lempel is also a stiff suit with no personality whatsoever.
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Maxwell House
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Lol with what cloud servers? Microsofts? You aren’t winning the streaming game if you have to lease servers from your direct competitor.
Saberus
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And it would even be smaller if developed for SSD, no duplication of data needed.
Maxwell House
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Microsoft is every bit as big as Amazon. They have almost identical market caps.Gamepass
They both dwarf Sony in size, that’s for sure.
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existensmaximum
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I would say there's around 0,0% chance of that happening.
ZehDon
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Nothing terribly insightful that this thread, and the many, many (many) others haven't covered this passed week, but a good summary line:ops
A Narrative Of Sony And PS5 As ‘Anti-Consumer’ Is Starting To Take Shape
Sony is in a strong position with the PS5, but it's starting to feel like they know that a little too well.
It's clear Sony is banking on positioning itself as the "premium experience", and Microsoft are gravitating to the "great value" position. However, with the hardware crown sitting with Microsoft, and it's massively bolstered first party, I'm not sure Sony can sing that song for long. I'm certainly not paying AUD$125.00 for their games. I think we're actually starting to see the disruption of Gamepass taking effect. If Microsoft can land one or two truly great games early in the generation, I think the tide will be ready to turn.
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farmerboy
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What are new full priced games on the xbox x?
The UI of the XSX is the same as XBO, isn't it? I read somewhere that Microsoft will keep the same UI on both consoles
danielJackson
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That 155gb already have compressed stuff I think + not all data goes 3,16:1 so it wont be that easy to calculate it
Games Dean
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Ayo Amazon
Lol Amazon is a huge player and it seems everyone was waiting for Bezos to make his move into gaming.
Nah but in all seriousness:
ZehDon
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Depends on the publisher. Ubisoft haven't increased their prices, and neither have Microsoft. Sony have, and it appears Activision has also.
zaitsu
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The only fighting i see is your last neuron fighting to thrive
farmerboy
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I'm in Australia too. I think prices will settle below $100. Got a lot of PS4 physical releases day 1 at $70 from JB HiFi so $125 is ludicrous, I agree with you there.
I think the jump to 125 is too big and the market will push back. At least I hope.
But there must be game devs to begin with. It might be possible that we see a bidding war for game devs and studios in the very near future. Before this generation we had only Sony and Microsoft competing for the same user base. Now we have Microsoft, Sony, Amazon, Google and yes even dumb facebook. Everyone wants a bite of the huge gaming cake... And all of them want to see a return of their investments.
Do you guys remember the start of Netflix? At the beginning a lot of other content was on Netflix and now we have Netflix, Disney+, Hulu, CBS All Access, HBO, Amazon Prime, etc... You want to watch show A? Subscribe to Netflix. You want to watch show B? Subscribe to Disney+.
I can see a much more seperated gaming market where you won't get all the content you want on just your console. There could be more exclusives down the line to every service and console out there.
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