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[Kagey K]

Maybe because those games cost hundreds of millions of dollars and putting on gamepass won’t make the money it needs.
Isolating Playstation and Nintendo sales is gonna cost alot of money

Why?

people will go where the games are, no?

 

[Business]

 

[Blood Borne]

Yeah. No way those titles will be on PS5 and even if they are, it will be timed exclusive. No way it will day and date with Xbox.

The acquisition was a traumatic experience for lots of gamers, hence they’re coming with stories to help them cope with reality.

 

[Riky]

People who say they have spent 7 billion so need to make money back by keeping the games multi format, take a basic accounting course, the acquisition is a balance sheet item, it just moved 7 billion from the cash portion to the asset portion, simple.

Also those saying they can't ignore the Playstation base because it will be bigger, I have news, it isn't already. The install base for Game Pass is all the Xbox consoles, all the Windows PC's and every Android Phone, it's a totally different ball game.

 

[Kagey K]

Just wait

Yeah. No way those titles will be on PS5 and even if they are, it will be timed exclusive. No way it will day and date with Xbox.

The acquisition was a traumatic experience for lots of gamers, hence they’re coming with stories to help them cope with reality.

When they see the gameplay videos and it’s Exclusive with no stars or console launch exclusive, that’s when the shit will fly.

Right now they are mostly in the denial to bargaining stages.

 

[timmyp53]

Because this would be one of the most destructive moves in gaming if that is the case.

That's a bit hyperbolic. Im leaning towards microsoft not actually releasing games to PS5 but I don't think it's the craziest thing that could ever happen.

 

[GymWolf]

I aksed the same question and someone told me that i was an idiot because it's clear that they are gonna sell these games on ps5...

It seems like i'm not the only idiot who has doubt about this...

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Nobody really thinks they'll be on PS5, just like nobody expects MS to let Halo, Gears or Forza go there.

Sony fans mocked Xbox for not having exclusives but, the fact is, they liked it that way - and now it's changed they can't accept it.

 

[cireza]

Every game sold on PS5 is one person less in MS ecosystem.

You know this is an overly exaggerated stretch.

 

[scalman]

depends how much MS like money or dont like . imagine how much PS5 consoles will be out there.. so you wanna money from them or not .

 

[Deleted member 775630]

I think this will depend on when the games release and how the market share for each company is. If Sony is out selling Xbox 2:1 or more, they'll also release it on PS5, otherwise probably not since these games are system sellers

 

[Starfield]

In the sale, there was a contract stipulation that said Microsoft must put Minecraft on all platforms moving forward?

That's what I heard too

Bethesda said they will continue to publish their games and want you to enjoy them on whatever device you own. That's pretty clear to me that Starfield, Elder Scrolls will be on PS5.

But Starfield is not out until 2022 at absolute best, ES maybe 2025, so we'll be waiting an age to find out.

How can you be so wrong in such a short message

 

[kuncol02]

depends how much MS like money or dont like . imagine how much PS5 consoles will be out there.. so you wanna money from them or not .

I think this will depend on when the games release and how the market share for each company is. If Sony is out selling Xbox 2:1 or more, they'll also release it on PS5, otherwise probably not since these games are system sellers

You guys are planning for game of checkers but MS is playing Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Playstation has huge sales potential. MS would be stupid not to release these games on PS5. Maybe they won't, but those IP sell gangbusters on PS.

 

[FunkMiller]

Because by the time those games come out the install base of Ps5 will be huge, and Microsoft likes money, and doesn’t care about the console war bullshit.

 

[Killer Sakoman]

If they were exclusives, Microsoft will scream it all day. This was an expansive move and the games cannot be profitable on gamepass alone.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Just wait


When they see the gameplay videos and it’s Exclusive with no stars or console launch exclusive, that’s when the shit will fly.

Right now they are mostly in the denial to bargaining stages.

You really shouldn't be so insecure about it, the reason for the doubt is because of the words of Phil Spencer himself and the Bethesda boss. Both said they want the games to be on as many screens as possible, Spencer even said specifically 'they will be on other consoles on a game by game basis'.

You're in denial if you think these games are 100% exclusive.

 

[phil_t98]

Platforma NVIDIA RTX ożywia świat gry Minecraft

Poznaj światy Minecraft z oszałamiającym realizmem dzięki NVIDIA RTX

www.nvidia.com

what is that meant to mean?

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

You really shouldn't be so insecure about it, the reason for the doubt is because of the words of Phil Spencer himself and the Bethesda boss. Both said they want the games to be on as many screens as possible,

They were talking about Game Pass and xCloud.

Spencer even said specifically 'they will be on other consoles on a game by game basis'.

He didn't say that at all. He said "case-by-case", so yeah, maybe one or two IPs can see the light of day on Nintendo in some way.

You're in denial if you think these games are 100% exclusive.

True, they'll also be available on PC and Android through xCloud.

PlayStation no, though.

 

[Kagey K]

Time wi

You really shouldn't be so insecure about it, the reason for the doubt is because of the words of Phil Spencer himself and the Bethesda boss. Both said they want the games to be on as many screens as possible, Spencer even said specifically 'they will be on other consoles on a game by game basis'.

You're in denial if you think these games are 100% exclusive.

Time will tell, I’m not going to argue hypotheticals with you.

 

[Sw0pDiller]

I can only hope that MS will launch those games (on the condition that they are great games) on PS5/switch but that because i was not planning on buying an xbox...
sevenbillionfivehundredmillion dollar.
$7.500.000.000 dollar is fucking lot of money but think of this:

that's about 41,6 million years of Gamepass subsription. So right now they have 15m paying subsribers (lets not make the argument about some people paying just 1 dollar for three years). when those 15m keep their subscribtion for three years. then MS has effectively earned back their spended money. offcourse making games and maintaining those 2300 souls with a monthly pay etc etc will also cast them but with the law of big numbers this 7,5b will be earned back fast.

 

[Zok310]

Because MS is now a 3rd party publisher?

 

[Riky]

They haven't lost 7.5 billion to recoup, they have moved 7.5 billion in cash to the asset column, it's basic balance sheet stuff.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

They were talking about Game Pass and xCloud.



He didn't say that at all. He said "case-by-case", so yeah, maybe one or two IPs can see the light of day on Nintendo in some way.

This is exactly the denial I was talking about. I'm not fussed either way as these games are years out. But these were the words:

In an interview with Bloomberg, Spencer said that upcoming Bethesda games like its single-player sci-fi RPG Starfield will come to Xbox, PC, and Game Pass. Whether it will also still come to PS5 is now less than certain. “We’ll take other consoles on a case-by-case basis,” Spencer told Bloomberg.

If it makes you sleep happy at night, just imagine his words were 'these games will be exclusive to Xbox Series X' instead, which would be definitive.

 

[DAHGAMING]

At release no way. But a couple of years down the line they may allow it or as a sort of swap deal for some other shit.

 

[Cyborg]

$7,5 billion is a lot of money on top of that there will be regular costs (overhead etc.) for developing new games. I think its gonna take them a long time to earn this back. If ever.

 

[Kikorin]

I think they'll release these games everywhere in the long term, but they'll be exclusive to gamepass/Xbox system for very long time.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

This is exactly the denial I was talking about. I'm not fussed either way as these games are years out.

You're clearly very fussed. But it's ok to be upset.

If it makes you sleep happy at night, just imagine his words were 'these games will be exclusive to Xbox Series X' instead, which would be definitive.

I don't need to imagine anything, MS won't be putting it's IPs on PS5. Time for you to move onto the acceptance stage.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Because money. Also, I genuinely do not think the console hardware space is the goal for Microsoft and I don't think it has been for some years. I fully expect to see Gamepass on the PS5 at some point.

 

[Orta]

Just accept it PS fans, they're Microsoft's now and you're not getting them back.

 

[hemo memo]

If they were exclusives, Microsoft will scream it all day. This was an expansive move and the games cannot be profitable on gamepass alone.

Depends on how many subscribers by then and also the scale of the game which they’ll obviously scale down to make it work for a subscription model.

 

[Mattyp]

You really shouldn't be so insecure about it, the reason for the doubt is because of the words of Phil Spencer himself and the Bethesda boss. Both said they want the games to be on as many screens as possible, Spencer even said specifically 'they will be on other consoles on a game by game basis'.

You're in denial if you think these games are 100% exclusive.

Do you want to go back and review that quote? he said they will honor current contracts and "Look at each game at a game by game basis" He never brought up other consoles, neither has mentioned PS5 once. This is to drive gamepass numbers, and will drive players to where gamepass is. They gain NOTHING by releasing these games on Playstation, Microsoft doesn't give a fuck about physical sales on a couple of titles.

They want you on gamepass, they want your repeated money. They did not spend $7.5 billion dollars so they could make $30 bucks off some physical sales of what is two games a generation.

The denial in this thread is the worst I've seen yet, I do wonder where it comes from but since all PS players play xbox exclusives on their PC already? Baffling really

 

[Redlancet]

Those titles are system sellers. People will buy Xboxes solely for these games. Smaller titles like Ori and Minecraft makes sense since those don’t move hardware.

If Microsoft doesn’t care for big exclusives then why isn’t Halo, Forza or Gears on PlayStation. Are people just that delusional?

minecraft got a psvr patch two days ago,so..

 

[Starfield]

Who says Fallout isnt going to be on the PS5 in the future?

I'm sure you'll be able to stream the Fallout TV series on your PS5

 

[Kokoloko85]

Depends on how many subscribers by then and also the scale of the game which they’ll obviously scale down to make it work for a subscription model.

Rather have game studios making the best games they can, instead of what Gamepass funds offer them.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Why?

people will go where the games are, no?

Yes but something tells me theres alot more Playstation fans than Bethesda fans.
Not all 110+ million PS4 owners are gonna jump ship

 

[Roufianos]

I still think their goal is to get GamePass on PS5.

Doubt it. MS would be giving up the main draw to own their console. GamePass might be hugely profitable at one point in the future though an even bigger profit driver is a 30% cut on all 3rd party game sales and micro transactions.

I highly doubt Starfield and TES VI will appear on PS5, at least at launch. You don't invest $7bn not to reap the biggest rewards.

Bethesda titles are system sellers, no doubt about it.

 

[Klart]

If it will make them more money, MS will release Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield on PS5.

Simple as that.

 

[Starfield]

If it will make them more money, MS will release Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield on PS5.

Simple as that.

And then Halo Forza Gears. That's Microsofts ultimate plan, weaken their game catalogue so less people buy gamepass and more people buy their games on Sony consoles for them to get a cut!

Y'all make no sense

 

[hemo memo]

Rather have game studios making the best games they can, instead of what Gamepass funds offer them.

“Best games they can” is a big risk and cost a lot of money. The AAA model is unsustainable and they can’t keep it going. Microsoft is forward thinking.

 

[Snake29]

Can we really blame people? These franchises like TES, Wolfenstein, Doom, Fallout and so far Starfield, where always multiplatform titles and Starfield was for all platforms announced. I don't know why people compare it to Halo, Gears, and Forza because those games where never multiplatform, same as Ratchet&Clank, God of War, Gran Turismo etc.

This effect would also happen if Microsoft would acquire Ubisoft or EA for example. All their games are multiplatform, and they would also lock it behind their eco system.

There's a big difference between taking over a studio, which you've worked with for years, than a big publisher that has games that come out for all platforms, but not anymore after purchase.

I can well imagine that people aren't happy that these big companies are targeting publishers.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

If it will make them more money, MS will release Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield on PS5.

Simple as that.

That's literally not how it works at all, otherwise all MS IPs would be there because they would make more money.

You sound desperate.

 

[Kokoloko85]

“Best games they can” is a big risk and cost a lot of money. The AAA model is unsustainable and they can’t keep it going. Microsoft is forward thinking.

So you rather games like Fallout, Doom and Elder scrolls to be funded by what Gamepass can allocate to them? And not make the best games they can?

I think Gamepass model is Unsustainable, gamepass alone cant fund all these studios that make 100+ million dollar games. There gonna use that MS money To keep it going.
MS have said themselves Gamepass doesnt make much profit.
They can only afford to do it because they are MS and can afford to take a loss to kill they competition For years to come.
Other its not a good business model, like they said it doesn't make them much profit.

The triple AAA Model has worked fine this generation And before it. Playstation and Nintendo made profit from games and then to go on to make more better games. Grow studios organically

 

[The_Mike]

For the same reason they allow Minecraft on PS4.

Seems weird to remove minecraft on ps4 when it was released before Microsofts acquisition, no?

Those games lose a lot of relevance if they skip ps5 and MS will make far more profit selling a few million on ps5 at full price.

Games are only great and relevant if they are released on Playstation.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

You're clearly very fussed. But it's ok to be upset.



I don't need to imagine anything, MS won't be putting it's IPs on PS5. Time for you to move onto the acceptance stage.

Listen, PS5 has a stacked launch and first year, it's not critical these games even release on the console. It's MS that needs these games to fill out their library, but we'll have to wait and see.

Until then, the idea that Starfield and TES will be released on PS5 can live rent free in your head for a long time.

 

[daninthemix]

Because they can only accept exclusives on their own system, not other people's.

 

[iJudged]

Hope, fear, acceptance, looting, and finally, Xbox purchase.

 

[Venom Snake]

I only care about Doom. If it doesn't hit ps5 it will be a great loss for me.

 

[Klart]

That's literally not how it works at all, otherwise all MS IPs would be there because they would make more money.

You sound desperate.

Lol. Desperate. I don't care. I quite like Bethesda games & if they become exclusive I might buy an Xbox or Gamepass for PC.

MS wants to become a big/the biggest player in videogames. That doesn't mean they want the most consoles sold.

If they can put the Bethesda games on Gamepass & let PS5 players pay 70/80 Euro/Dollar for them, it's a win/win.

Or they could keep them exclusive to give even more incentive to buy Gamepass/consoles.

Noone knows right now.

 

[The_Mike]

Lol what are you expecting from F5 or tes6?
It's all gone down the pan like Mass Effect and Bioware.

After watching the Sonygaf meltdown the last couple of days, I'd say a lot cares about Fallout and Elder Scrolls.

But hey, you do you. It's incredible how fast games becomes irrelevant when they exclude PlayStation

Hope, fear, acceptance, looting, and finally, Xbox purchase.

When is the next BLM event? Any schedule?