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[DrumNBassDanTTV]

Not bad for a £249 console

 

[Deleted member 740922]

Nice

 

[AV]

Decent. As much as forum dwellers like us scoff and say "SSDs are nothing new" I think the average consumer is about to have their mind blown.

 

[manfestival]

This is exactly why I play on PC.... not even considering all of the other perks.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Not bad and definitely a huge improvement compared to last gen. But I wonder if load times are going to be different with next gen games?

 

[danielJackson]

Still kind of long. Where did The "lol 2s vs 4s" go, because people have said that series s is just as good as series x, just tuned down gpu.

Can we assume that it takes 11-12s to load on series x too then?

But definetly good enough, if everything loads under 20s on all next gen systems= good

 

[Jaguar Victory]

This would improve the Wasteland 3 experience so much.

 

[RoadHazard]

10 seconds really doesn't impress me that much. Expecting 2-3 second full initial loads on PS5. It seems like the actual difference in loading speed will be larger than the 2.4x difference in raw read speed suggests. Sony has built in a lot of custom hardware to eliminate I/O bottlenecks all through the system architecture, to actually hit that 5.5GB/s number in real life situations. Seems like MS hasn't gone to the same lengths.

 

[Andodalf]

Still kind of long. Where did The "lol 2s vs 4s" go, because people have said that series s is just as good as series x, just tuned down gpu.

Can we assume that it takes 11-12s to load on series x too then?

But definetly good enough, if everything loads under 20s on all next gen systems= good

Games that are actually made for next gen will make better use of the SSD for faster load times.

 

[Hendrick's]

10 seconds really doesn't impress me that much. Expecting 2-3 second full initial loads on PS5.

Keep dreaming.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

How does it compare to Xbox One S with regular SSD?

That's what I would like to know.

 

[Ma-Yuan]

Not impressed at all considering the promise of 2,5gb raw which doesn't seem to work with xbox one titles.

 

[M1chl]

How does it compare to Xbox One S with regular SSD?

That's what I would like to know.

It's hardly an improvement due to SATA controller being connected through USB controller, I think.

 

[RoadHazard]

Keep dreaming.

Sony has built in a lot of custom hardware to eliminate I/O bottlenecks all through the system architecture, to actually hit that 5.5GB/s number in real life situations. Seems like MS hasn't gone to the same lengths.

 

[Hendrick's]

Sony has built in a lot of custom hardware to eliminate I/O bottlenecks all through the system architecture, to actually hit that 5.5GB/s number in real life situations. Seems like MS hasn't gone to the same lengths.

Like I said, keep dreaming. It will be faster, but you are not going to be loading into games in 2-3 seconds.

 

[RoboFu]

Sony has built in a lot of custom hardware to eliminate I/O bottlenecks all through the system architecture, to actually hit that 5.5GB/s number in real life situations. Seems like MS hasn't gone to the same lengths.

if they have wheres the comaprison videos? but its not long until NOV so we will know soon enough.

 

[DrumNBassDanTTV]

10 seconds really doesn't impress me that much. Expecting 2-3 second full initial loads on PS5. It seems like the actual difference in loading speed will be larger than the 2.4x difference in raw read speed suggests. Sony has built in a lot of custom hardware to eliminate I/O bottlenecks all through the system architecture, to actually hit that 5.5GB/s number in real life situations. Seems like MS hasn't gone to the same lengths.

How can it not impress people? MS haven't done a Sony and gone on and on about minimal load times with SSD secret sauce, this is just a nice bonus from MS imo.

 

[Dodkrake]

Games that are actually made for next gen will make better use of the SSD for faster load times.

Proof?

 

[turtlepowa]

10 seconds is great and yet i see the warriors fighting over every 0,1 seconds and that it changes the world.

 

[BlueXImpulse]

It's ok.

 

[Physiognomonics]

11 seconds ? This is not even a next-gen game with more assets. This is a XB1 game with max 5GB of data. So they'll need 15 sec for a next-gen game running on XSS (7.5GB) and >20 seconds for the XSX version with bigger assets (13GB).

People are going to be disappointed of their Xbox I/O when they'll see the other side.

 

[SilentUser]

Ok... this is much longer than I expected. And this is not even a new gen game. Kinda let down, to be honest.

 

[RoadHazard]

How can it not impress people? MS haven't done a Sony and gone on and on about minimal load times with SSD secret sauce, this is just a nice bonus from MS imo.

It's a nice improvement, sure, but it's only about 5x faster than the extremely slow XB1 HDD. The SSD should be giving larger improvements than that (theoretically something like 50x), which is why I'm not that impressed.

 

[betrayal]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If the main feature of NextGen is shorter load times, you have to ask yourself if either the marketing is clever or the customer is stupid.

 

[JLB]

11 seconds ? This is not even a next-gen game with more assets. This is a XB1 game with max 5GB of data. So they'll need 15 sec for a next-gen game running on XSS (7.5GB) and >20 seconds for the XSX version with bigger assets (13GB).

People are going to be disappointed of their Xbox I/O when they'll see the other side.

Sure, jan.
Lets see once Sony decides to show it.

 

[Dodkrake]

Sure, jan.
Lets see once Sony decides to show it.

R&C loading whole new worlds in 2 seconds on R&C and loading a whole new map section in 1 second in Demon Souls, which are Next Gen games, doesn't count?

 

[Whitecrow]

Like I said, keep dreaming. It will be faster, but you are not going to be loading into games in 2-3 seconds.

16 GB of RAM, at 5.5 GB/s... do the numbers
EDIT
Well, there's more than that to it but still, 3 seconds are not far off

 

[Flintty]

It's a nice improvement, sure, but it's only about 5x faster than the extremely slow XB1 HDD. The SSD should be giving larger improvements than that (theoretically something like 50x), which is why I'm not that impressed.

I’ve never seen anyone with an ounce of technical knowledge state that SSDs will load 50 times quicker. I’ve seen plenty say 5x though. Check your expectations.

 

[Hendrick's]

16 GB of RAM, at 5.5 GB/s... do the numbers

Theoretical perf =/= Reality

 

[RoadHazard]

I’ve never seen anyone with an ounce of technical knowledge state that SSDs will load 50 times quicker. I’ve seen plenty say 5x though. Check your expectations.

So we're supposed to expect read speeds of just 250-500MB/s? I've never been told that, seems terrible. Source? If it's that bottlenecked, MS has seriously fucked up.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Sure, jan.
Lets see once Sony decides to show it.

They have already showed their loading times. Goes from 0.8 sec to 2 sec.

 

[RoboFu]

They have already showed their loading times. Goes from 0.8 sec to 2 sec.

link?

 

[strikeselect]

PS5 has shown load times under a second, I’m not sure why MS marketing thought this video was a good idea.

Kinda highlights the SSD advantage of PS5 and makes the Xbox look “meh”

 

[FunkMiller]

Sure, jan.
Lets see once Sony decides to show it.

Did you watch the Demon’s Souls gameplay? That shows a change from one environment to another in a second or so, when the character transfers from the bonfire.

 

[FranXico]

There's a reason Sony has held off showing the UI for so long.
Let's wait and see. Won't be much longer.

 

[Mmnow]

link?

There isn't one. Everything we've seen from Sony has been optimised for the SSD, which is a completely different beast.

 

[Flintty]

Source?

Go and watch some YT videos of load time analysis of SSDs V HDDs.

 

[azz0r]

Ok... this is much longer than I expected. And this is not even a new gen game. Kinda let down, to be honest.

Yeah, hopefully the Playstation is quicker because consider me disappointed. You just know in a few years time when they start using heavier assets with better optimisation that load times are going to increase back up to what they are now.

 

[Ulysses 31]

Tough crowd when 53 sec down to 10-11 sec is considered disappointing.

 

[RoadHazard]

Go and watch some YT videos of load time analysis of SSDs V HDDs.

PC SSDs? Not relevant. Well, maybe it is for the Xbox, don't really know. But Sony has done much more than just thrown an SSD into the PS5, it will outperform any consumer PC SSD by a large margin.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Like I said, keep dreaming. It will be faster, but you are not going to be loading into games in 2-3 seconds.

I guess that depends on the game.

What Does The PS5 Bring To Kena: Bridge Of Spirits?

Ember labs shares what Sony’s upcoming hardware allowed the team to do with their first big game.

www.gameinformer.com

First up, there’s the matter of load times. Sony has touted the speed of the PS5’s solid-state drive, and how it virtually eliminates long loads. In practice, we watched as Kena was launched from the PlayStation 5 system menu. It took about two seconds. That’s not resuming a suspended game, but launching the game fresh.

“They have a whole thing set up where you can do transition and it’s very nice, but frankly it doesn’t have time to play the animation. It just loads the game so fast,” says Josh Grier, chief operating officer at Ember Lab.

I think the same would pay to Xbox as well. Depending on the game you can have faster loads or slower loads. It's all dependent on how much data needs to he loaded into the RAM and how fast the I/O is.

 

[New Yorks Finest]

That right there is fiyah and whats to come!!
Imagine CyberPunk running on Series X Boiiii, come Nov 10th..Armageddon in this B@#$ ☄

 

[whitesugar]

it's open world, but Outer Worlds is a pretty ugly game, would like to see a comparison to a game that really pushed the current xbox hardware

 

[OnThePathToWisdom]

They showed this exact same sequence in the reveal video...

Why not do a different one?

 

[Andodalf]

So we're supposed to expect read speeds of just 250-500MB/s? I've never been told that, seems terrible. Source? If it's that bottlenecked, MS has seriously fucked up.

Loading =/= just straight up dumping data from the SSD to HDD as fast as possible. Loading is never just a factor of storage speed.

 

[NullZ3r0]

Not bad for a £249 console

MS will have these videos running on a loop in Walmart. This will sell like hot cakes.

 

[RoboFu]

Yeah, hopefully the Playstation is quicker because consider me disappointed. You just know in a few years time when they start using heavier assets with better optimisation that load times are going to increase back up to what they are now.

well that game is a min on current gen xbox one and it went down to 10 secs. the PS5 is faster so you might gety 6/7 secs in the same game.

 

[Flintty]

PC SSDs? Not relevant. Well, maybe it is for the Xbox, don't really know. But Sony has done much more than just thrown an SSD into the PS5, it will outperform any consumer PC SSD by a large margin.

Well if the PS5 can load a graphically impressive game in 2 secs I’ll let you serve me a plate of medium rare crow.

 

[Stuart360]

I'd love to see thiese systems loading Need For Speed Heat. It take me over 90 seconds on PC to load into a save game, with a sata SSD as well lol.

 

[Journey]

10 seconds really doesn't impress me that much. Expecting 2-3 second full initial loads on PS5. It seems like the actual difference in loading speed will be larger than the 2.4x difference in raw read speed suggests. Sony has built in a lot of custom hardware to eliminate I/O bottlenecks all through the system architecture, to actually hit that 5.5GB/s number in real life situations. Seems like MS hasn't gone to the same lengths.

What's this thread about again? I'm so confused.