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[Anchovie123]

I dont think this is that bad tbh. Ideally you would have a large external HDD and offload games you dont play as much to it. lets say the average AAA title is 100gb. it would only take like what 20 mins to transfer a game back onto the SSD? 5 mins if using a external SATA SSD.

 

[JackNightblade]

External SSDs aren’t very expensive.

they are if it has to be minimally 5.5gb/s

 

[loktaiextatus]

2 gigs of Sonys proprietary SSD? theres a reason its only 850 gigs to become with—its radically expensive. 2 tb model would probably raise the cost another $100 or so

you think adding 1+TB of 5.5gbps PCIE4.0 SSD storage at 100 bucks would be "radically expensive , proprietary " . .. Oh god. Imagine thinking this. Please do not visit newegg
and check out what those drives cost to put in a PC.

 

[Thirty7ven]

they are if it has to be minimally 5.5gb/s

You can use any kind if it’s just for storage. It will copy the game you want in a minute or under.

 

[loktaiextatus]

they are if it has to be minimally 5.5gb/s

It doesnt for external drives but those are for PS4 games, the internal expansion slot is the one with the speed requirement.

 

[MrFunSocks]

You have a narrative you want to spin, and you'll spin it come hell or high water. Yeah we get it. Doesn't stop you misinterpreting information as you did here. Or being boring and repetitive .

What narrative was I wanting to spin here exactly? Is correcting misinformation - that the PS5 has a 1TB SSD - now called "spinning a narrative"?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

So if you want to replace the 825gb internal SSD, you're not going to swap in a 1 tb drive for an extra 175 gb of space.

You're going to swap in a compatible one that works, fits and is probably 2tb minimum.

Have fun with price gamers.

 

[Bryank75]

I dont think this is that bad tbh. Ideally you would have a large external HDD and offload games you dont play as much to it. lets say the average AAA title is 100gb. it would only take like what 20 mins to transfer a game back onto the SSD? 5 mins if using a external SATA SSD.

I was always going to do this..... the 825GB is just for what you are playing at that time.

Buy a 2 TB external SSD and you're sorted.

 

[loktaiextatus]

So if you want to replace the 825gb internal SSD, you're not going to swap in a 1 tb drive for an extra 175 gb of space.

You're going to swap in a compatible one that works, fits and is probably 2tb minimum.

Have fun with price gamers.

You ... dont even know how this works which is not a good sign. It isnt a replacement, you add-on through expansion.
If you add a 2tb drive you have 2.8TB. If you add a 1tb drive, you have 1.8TB. Its very simple....

 

[Kdad]

A lot of places....I'd tell you where they can fit..... but I'll get banned.

I'm assuming these are double ended vacuum tubes and Phil Spencer has dibs on one end?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

You ... dont even know how this works which is not a good sign. It isnt a replacement, you add-on through expansion.
If you add a 2tb drive you have 2.8TB. If you add a 1tb drive, you have 1.8TB. Its very simple....

Really? Good. Finally something they did right.

In that case, add an external SSD for more next gen storage, and then a gamer adds their current USB 3.0 HDD for tons more games that can be played off that at old gen specs.

External drives adding up in space.

 

[loktaiextatus]

I'm assuming these are double ended vacuum tubes and Phil Spencer has dibs on one end?

You know.... I didnt need this image tonight. Im trying to have a nice quiet night and sign off at the end of my shift.... but now this happened.

God damn this forum.

 

[Shmunter]

2 gigs of Sonys proprietary SSD? theres a reason its only 850 gigs to become with—its radically expensive. 2 tb model would probably raise the cost another $100 or so

The 850 instead of 1tb has been said to be due to the parallel nature of the data channels. Similar to how ram is generally arranged in even numbers due to the dual channel controllers. E.g. you won’t see 15gig of ram.

 

[Kdad]

If the info is wrong, they should be out here squashing it and not allowing it to creative negative publicity. This could be cleared up with a tweet, so lets not get too defensive for Sony on this one my man.

Why would Sony comment on some rando tweet?

 

[DavidGzz]

Thank God I only want this for exclusives. Next Gen really needed close to 2TB as standard.

Same here, they will pretty much be the only reason and most likely the only games that take full advantage of the controller.

 

[Kdad]

You know.... I didnt need this image tonight. Im trying to have a nice quiet night and sign off at the end of my shift.... but now this happened.

God damn this forum.

Sleep well

 

[loktaiextatus]

Really? Good. Finally something they did right.

In that case, add an external SSD for more next gen storage, and then a gamer adds their current USB 3.0 HDD for tons more games that can be played off that at old gen specs.

External drives adding up in space.

yeah. I mean if youre going to be discussing this stuff you should consider watching Road to PS5 . Not as an attack I am just saying this has all been known for months.
There is a bay for an SSD- once inserted the SSD is controlled by the built in existing storage controller, the off-the-shelf SSD gains the features of the PS5 ssd
as in additional levels of priority and whatever other bullsh*t they have flying around in the black box of a controller they are yelling about-

External USB drives are used to store PS4 games if desired of they can be installed to the internal storage - user choice, PS5 games are installed to the SSD(s)
to ensure they play as intended (designed to be used with the higher I/O of the internal SSD for loading assets). Thats the gist.

 

[Stooky]

The way it's supposed to work if you don't want to go full SSD is to hook up an external HDD and swap files back and forth if you want the SSD treatment for next gen games.

Who knows how great that will play out over time as people say SSDs get worn out fast doing that.

SSD No where near as bad as HDD Not even close. If PS5 gives you full usbc bandwidth then I would go full SSD for external drive. If I wanted to be extra cautious I would back it up to HDD.

 

[Aguero9320]

I don’t know what’s happening any more - for months all talk has been about some near witchcraft magic SSD that’s going to change the world, now I can just go to Best Buy and get one off the shelf for cheap because the internal is a bit small and it will all be fine?

The spin is both dizzying and unnecessary - the internal is different and will be fine size wise. Just have to change the way we use it a little, which is also fine.

 

[RCU005]

Big if true

It's true. The PS5 SSD is very different from any SSD that is available now. Not only speed-wise, but also has 12-channel memory controller. (Is there an SSS with that many available already?)

Sony will have to make sure an SSD will work on the PS5 in regards of physical size, memory size, speed and number of channels). If they approve it, you can buy it and put it on your PS5.

What baffles me is why don't Sony sell the exact same SSD from the PS5 separately? You'd have the option to buy theirs from launch, and any other later.

 

[Elginer]

Hope there are more storage options at launch

 

[Astral Dog]

That would be unfortunate. At least game installs are rumored to be smaller. Not sure if it makes up for it though. 175GB for the OS seems a bit extreme no?

Thats what they tell you now but i wouldn't be so sure

 

[iHaunter]

Thats what they tell you now but i wouldn't be so sure

We can't know until they actually show us or release, sadly. It's all conjecture.

 

[Astral Dog]

less redundancy needed and more compression

Many developers won't bother or younger ones may not even know how compression works

 

[Esca]

I can see this being true with save states and such. It just sucks that it's taking up a fair bit of a rather small drive. The size of the HD and no back paddles on the dual sense are my only issues thus far with the ps5

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

It's funny to look back at how the 20gb Xbox 360, was only 12gb usable storage. How did we survive those days. I used to have so many Xbox arcade games installed as well as DLC and what not.

 

[aries_71]

In Cerny we trust. Cerny can do no wrong.

Who needs more than one game, when you have Spidey?

 

[Gamer79]

It's common sense if you use the same figures as this generation as percentages. A little lower than ehat we have now at 83% usable from raw.

Ps5 explainable SSD costs

With newer external SSDs you could completely swap the whole PS5/SeX storage in 10min, so I think it's not that big of a deal.

www.neogaf.com

You lose space for formatting, then lose space for the OS and reserved OS space.

Bingo. You buy a 1tb sd card or hard drive and you only get like 950GB or less space.

 

[longdi]

As i was concerned earlier, this is one area Sony 'custom' SSD does them no favors.
The costs to expand storage capabilty, are much higher, needing >5.5gbs PCIE4 ssd.
Mark has bet for that extra few seconds faster loading, with the need to pay higher expansion costs

 

[GamerEDM]

you want more storage?fuck you pay me.

 

[ReBurn]

That 825 GB is probably only 768 gb usable freshly formatted. 118 GB reserved for OS and system paging seems high unless they are creating a partition to use for paging or caching of assets.

 

[longdi]

you want more storage?fuck you pay me.

can you play games off sony cloud storage, or still need to manage your local storage?

times like this, when flash storage are expensive/gb, imo plug and play memory cards seem the smarter/cost effective solution.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

175GB for OS? What in the actual fuck? Even Windows 10 requires ~30 GB and it is way more complex in terms of what you can do with it than anything OS-wise on consoles. They're effin' insane if true.

 

[GamerEDM]

can you play games off sony cloud storage, or still need to manage your local storage?

times like this, when flash storage are expensive/gb, imo plug and play memory cards seem the smarter/cost effective solution.

Don't worry im sure they will have a solution for you for next gen for the low price of $9.99 a month

 

[fast_taker]

Shiiiiiit

 

[maneil99]

can you play games off sony cloud storage, or still need to manage your local storage?

times like this, when flash storage are expensive/gb, imo plug and play memory cards seem the smarter/cost effective solution.

Nope, no way could you pull assets from the cloud to your local machine and render without giant issues

 

[renzolama]

Enough for Modern Warfare and 1 other game

Clearly you haven't been watching the growth rate for Modern Warfare. It will consume your gaming box so that you can play no others. It grows!!!!

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Not a concern for me. I have a 1TB 870 Evo in a USB enclosure, and 150Mbps fiber with no data cap. Move out of the gaming ghetto, peasants.

 

[Investor9872]

175 GB for the OS is too extreme if the rumor is true. It would also be a colossal waste of Sony's new ultra-fast SSD. If the OS is going to take that much space, why not have a separate, smaller, slower, non-proprietary 175 GB space for it in addition to that custom 825 GB SSD.

 

[whyman]

With download speeds being what they are in my area and given that I never play more than 4 games at the time. I don’t see the problem.

 

[sinnergy]

That’s pretty low if true, you can install 10 games AAA mixed with Indie max.

 

[West Texas CEO]

Not that impressive, considering next gen titles will probably require 200 GB+ for essential game data.

 

[Investor9872]

That’s pretty low if true, you can install 10 games AAA mixed with Indie max.

You'll be in for a big surprise then since next-gen games are supposed to be bigger, with high quality textures and assets. Current gen Call of Duty Modern Warfare clocks in over 240 GB without the latest Season 5 on my PS4 Pro, which will probably be even more. The PS5 could only have enough for a COD game and only one other AAA game like Gran Turismo 7 or GTA 6.

 

[acm2000]

The reserved space isn't just for the OS, but all the caches etc too of which there is a lot, all that share button stuff doesn't come for free.

 

[RPS37]

Not that impressive, considering next gen titles will probably require 200 GB+ for essential game data.

You can hold THREE games at a time.

 

[RayHell]

175GB for os? yeah right.
Don't believe this bs.

Reserved for OS doesn't mean it's the size of the OS. It's probably for save state when you quick swap games.

 

[Zoro7]

Seems like this forum has learnt nothing. We take one random sites news as gospel and start reacting.
PS5 IS RDNA 1.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

It's still going to sell like hot cakes.

 

[LostDonkey]

The claim is that games won't take up as much space lol. I dunno how thats possible with them aiming for higher res textures etc...but thats what they've said online

Who is "them" and "they".

Can we get some better sources for this claim as I keep seeing it thrown around with no backup.

 

[AphexTwunt]

Can you add an extra SSD, or is it only replace?