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Gabe Newell prefers Xbox Series X to PS5

oldergamer

Member
No surprise hearing this though.

Glad he likes the XSX better, he must have his reason. I just find it entertaining how much he would have been accused of shilling for Sony if he had said something else lol (I guess it would be mean to think about Sony cozying up with Epic Games Store factoring in this at all hehe ;))
I don't know if anyone would accuse him of that. just would have wondered what the reasoning is. yeah that was not a good look for epic after denying it was related to the investment from sony. Even still it was just a bad look even if unrelated
 

TheAssist

Member
Hmm I cant imagine he said this based on any experience with the hardware. So I would assume he is talking about the infrastructure side. Which makes sense seeing how Valve is more in the gaming infrastructure business these days. I dont play online with my PS4 and rarely use the store for anything, but I is it still true that MS has superior online infrastructure compared to Sony?
If true that statement would make sense for everyone who primarily plays 3rd party games online. Which is a lot of people.
 

geordiemp

Member
'No horse in the race' means he doesn't have any personal stake in either platform, so his preference for Series X is based purely on the facts.

That is, it's the honest opinion of an extremely knowledgeable person absent any personal conflict of interest. To clarify further, an expert opinion, without any skin in the game, based on fact, not business interests or personal bias.

Unlike somebody who has, say, a quarter of a billion dollar investment on the line.

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How hard is it. God some people are just hard work man.

If gabe had a dev kit or XSX dev kit it would be relevant. He does not have a ps5 dev kit.

So what basis is it better ?
 
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Neo_game

Member
Why din't they ask him about Steam box ?

Anyways I guess since Xbox has bigger APU he likes it more and also the fact that it look like a PC. Xbox is a look alike of Corsair one
 

Journey

Banned
Well to be fair, Valve & MS are fairly cosy these days.



LMAO, you just have to justify the reason, couldn't just be because Xbox Series X is simply more capable machine overall... nah, that couldn't be it, let's go with bias!

But when Tim Sweeney sides with Sony and shows off the Unreal Tournament demo at E3 where he tried to sell the PS3 as being easy to develop for and historically has sided with Sony, his comments are completely objective... amirite?
 

Venom Snake

Member
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Journey

Banned
Gabe has always favored Xbox nothing new here


Tim Sweeney has always favored Sony, but has never flat out said that Sony's console is simply "better". If we're just talking about which platform would you rather work for, without counting exclusives, Xbox Series X wins by a landslide, there's no question. If one company went away and all game companies were to develop for just one console, XSX is simply more capable and still has the benefits of the incredible boost of IOPS of an SSD.
 

Journey

Banned
He's one of the Microsoft millionaires and repped them heavily in the 360 era.

Nothing to see here, folks.


Microsoft shows console...

560GB/s Bandwidth
3.8Ghz Zen 2 CPU
12.2 TF constant (No boost mode)

Sony shows console
448 GB/s Bandwidth
3.6Ghz Zen 2 CPU
10.3 TF at full boost


We were all pretty convinced that Xbox Series X had the clear power advantage, but.... developers start weighing in and point out how the PS5's SSD could give it advantages in certain areas. We listened to those devs, but now it seems like the hardcore fans want to ignore any dev that speaks against their favorite console... so pathetic.
 
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CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Glad he likes the XSX better, he must have his reason. I just find it entertaining how much he would have been accused of shilling for Sony if he had said something else lol (I guess it would be mean to think about Sony cozying up with Epic Games Store factoring in this at all hehe ;))

So instead we have Sony fans accusing him of shilling for Xbox. On the positive side unlike the deal between Sony & Epic, it didn't cost MS $250,0,000 for Gabe's opinion.
 
This happened with the 360 versus PS3. After calling the PS3 garbage to Kaz's face, Big daddy Gabe later got that sweet Sony paycheck for a Portal 2 port and soundbites that PS3 is the superior platform after all.

Now, Gabe is in need of more money. The cycle begins anew.
 

Dolomite

Member
This reminds me of the time when Gabe said PS3 was terrible to develop(which it was due to it's complex architecture which was hard to comprehend by those outside of first party studios), then fast forward to 2010 he walks up on stage at Sony E3 and announces a slew of exclusive features for PS3 version of Portal 2. Good choice though, Xbox is a beast a platform today more so than they ever were thanks to game pass and backwards compatibility services going for it's consoles.
Had a lot less to do with the IBM Manhattan project that was the Cell processor being difficult to comprehend, and a lot more to do with the Ram bottleneck. The one advantage the 360 had was the unified RAM pool
 

kyoji

Member
Tim Sweeney has always favored Sony, but has never flat out said that Sony's console is simply "better". If we're just talking about which platform would you rather work for, without counting exclusives, Xbox Series X wins by a landslide, there's no question. If one company went away and all game companies were to develop for just one console, XSX is simply more capable and still has the benefits of the incredible boost of IOPS of an SSD.
yea idk about all that, nothing series x has shown up until this point has backed up any pr claims. And history shows you need a balanced console to be most successful in the eyes of most fans. Sony has been check marking those boxes. Of course everything is subject to opinion, it just so happens more agree with me 🤣
 

longdi

Banned
Gaben's opinion is useless as he'll shill for whoever the last person he spoke to is. He's like Clay Davis.

He is not even shillin', he was chillin' with some new zealander talk show while stuck on the island.

Gabe may not develop on consoles, but you can be sure as hell he has full access to insiders' chatters. The lord and all :messenger_peace:
 

Journey

Banned
yea idk about all that, nothing series x has shown up until this point has backed up any pr claims. And history shows you need a balanced console to be most successful in the eyes of most fans. Sony has been check marking those boxes. Of course everything is subject to opinion, it just so happens more agree with me 🤣


A more powerful PC will be a more powerful PC whether or not it has shown a demo of UE5 🤷‍♂️ Ryse Son of Rome looked more impressive than Killzone Shadowfall, yet we all knew the PS4 was more powerful and it was a matter of time when games showed it, even in the form of multiplatform games performing better or having higher res. We'll come back here when the head-to-heads begin, deal?
 

Kerlurk

Banned
 
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