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[Gavin Stevens]

I know most of these measures are people guessing But damn the Series X looks really bad and cheap too.

Opinions are like assholes, and yours is wrong

In all seriousness, the gif isn't the most flattering. To be honest, neither console is what I was hoping for. But you can't honestly put the Serie X in an image with the PS5 and say the Series X is the ugly one, that's just mental lol. but to each their own, and everybody is entitled to like what they like.

 

[SaucyJack]

It's fascinating that we almost never have the XBO in these comparison pics, as far as I can see the PS5 isn't going to be much bigger than that.

I think 40cm is a big assumption for PS5, estimates range from 35cm

 

[Gavin Stevens]

It's fascinating that we almost never have the XBO in these comparison pics, as far as I can see the PS5 isn't going to be much bigger than that.

I think 40cm is a big assumption for PS5, estimates range from 35cm

A lot of people measured it based on either disk drive or outer USB shell, which both can be random sizes. Inner USB tab is the most accurate way to measure, and I believe even IGN got the same result.

As for the original beast that was the Xbox VCR, that was 33.3cm long.

 

[Md Ray]

The shape of the system doesn't doesn't look like a console that has maximized or prioritized air flow or cooling which is the biggest contributor to sound. This console was has a form over function design philosophy.

Less heat requires lower fan speed and lower fan speed mean less noise.

But it's one of the biggest consoles ever, AFAIK. What gives? The cooling solution is also said to be one of the costliest components of PS5 according to Bloomberg. This wasn't the case with their previous consoles. PS4s use a cheapo blower style fan that's loud as heck at full speed. I believe they're using a larger fan this time around, and simply switching to a larger 120mm fan alone would reduce so much of the noise, with better heatsink. This would mean the console has to be bigger as well.

 

[nemiroff]

I wonder if my door is big enough to get this mountain into my house or if I need to remove the roof and lower it down with a crane.

 

[SaucyJack]

A lot of people measured it based on either disk drive or outer USB shell, which both can be random sizes. Inner USB tab is the most accurate way to measure, and I believe even IGN got the same result.

As for the original beast that was the Xbox VCR, that was 33.3cm long.

Sure, but a USB is a small thing, a small error in that and extrapolating it can make a real diffference. But nevertheless it's just an estimate and not a substitute for hands on on the real thing and official specifications.

The range seems to be 35-40 cm and at 35 it's barely bigger than the XBO,

I'm not that fussed tbh, mine is going horizontally and I have no concern about it fitting in my unit. The Series X won't fit and would have to go behind the TV, which is not ideal but then again not likely to be a 2020/21 problem for me unless the July presser is fucking spectacular.

 

[tryDEATH]

But it's one of the biggest consoles ever, AFAIK. What gives? The cooling solution is also said to be one of the costliest components of PS5 according to Bloomberg. This wasn't the case with their previous consoles. PS4s use a cheapo blower style fan that's loud as heck at full speed. I believe they're using a larger fan this time around, and simply switching to a larger 120mm fan alone would reduce so much of the noise, with better heatsink. This would mean the console has to be bigger as well.

You have to look at the air flow, size with out proper air flow actually heats up a system requiring fans to work at a higher speed more constantly creating more noise.

The Xbox went with the PC route for cooling with a dedicated intake system that cools all components, the PS5 maintained the console cooling concept/ethos, which I don't think is possible at the power level these new systems are let alone also make it quiet.

Just imagine where you would put fans into the system and you can see how constricted the air flow is as it reduced to the surrounding grill, be it for intake or exhaust. If it is a exhaust set up, the system would literally be blowing air straight into the sides of the consoles and forcing it to eject air out of the grill, which isn't efficent, with intake it would be better but then where would the heat end up going as it doesn't look like it has a dedicated exhaust section.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Sure, but a USB is a small thing, a small error in that and extrapolating it can make a real diffference. But nevertheless it's just an estimate and not a substitute for hands on on the real thing and official specifications.

The range seems to be 35-40 cm and at 35 it's barely bigger than the XBO,

I'm not that fussed tbh, mine is going horizontally and I have no concern about it fitting in my unit. The Series X won't fit and would have to go behind the TV, which is not ideal but then again not likely to be a 2020/21 problem for me unless the July presser is fucking spectacular.

I think the weird shape throws a lot of peoples eyes off, and to be honest until I get it in my hands on my shelf I wont be able to say for sure. Its large, maybe too large, but that's ok. I just wish it was black.

The other area people are forgetting is that it will also need airflow. Both consoles are chunky, but you cant just stick it in a gap just the right size, it will need some space around it. I really wouldn't be shocked to find a lot of heating issues, with both consoles, in the first 6 months. People are thick as pig shit and you know some stupid twat will put his magazines on top of his brand new xbox, right on the main fan vent...

 

[MasterCornholio]

Couldnt even get the front right. Im suppose to take their side view seriously? Like the top cant be curving down, otherwise you would see the top curving up from the front view.

It's comparisons like this that prove its just FUD. I understand that it's very hard to nail the scaling but this image proves that they went alot farther than just changing the size the image. They actually manipulated it to make make certain parts look bigger like the fins for example. And even the disk drive portion looks like it had stuff added to it. I don't know why anyone is taking that comparison seriously especially after you see who is behind it and who it was shared with.


Seems like a typical Discord FUD campaign with Tim Dog and his friends participating in it.

 

[Kumomeme]

Someone already has the console.

Spoiler

*just ignore the dumb conversation

 

[iJudged]

I mean....damn

 

[ethomaz]

Someone already has the console.

Spoiler

*just ignore the dumb conversation

Could be awesome to have a console in that size.

Spoiler

Everybody has the console.

Twitters Are Using an AR App to Post Fake PS5 Pics

I was curious how many pics from PS5 with weird proportions were being posted on Twitter until I find out the AR app where it was uploaded an PS5 model to you take pics/videos of it in your room. The sad part is that the model has bigger proportions than the actual hardware. You can read more...

www.neogaf.com

 

[BluRayHiDef]

Couldnt even get the front right. Im suppose to take their side view seriously? Like the top cant be curving down, otherwise you would see the top curving up from the front view.

The actual design is beautiful, whereas the render ruins the proportions of the design.

 

[ethomaz]

I mean....damn

Do you believe a real product has these render aliasing?

 

[ethomaz]

Sure, but a USB is a small thing, a small error in that and extrapolating it can make a real diffference. But nevertheless it's just an estimate and not a substitute for hands on on the real thing and official specifications.

The range seems to be 35-40 cm and at 35 it's barely bigger than the XBO,

I'm not that fussed tbh, mine is going horizontally and I have no concern about it fitting in my unit. The Series X won't fit and would have to go behind the TV, which is not ideal but then again not likely to be a 2020/21 problem for me unless the July presser is fucking spectacular.

I'm working with 38 x 20 x ? cm

? = 9.5 / 7.5 / 6.5 depending of the part of the console... 9.5 is just for the BD-drive model.

It is way smaller than what people is trying to make it be.... the Digital model is probably way smaller than Series X.

 

[Aceofspades]

It's comparisons like this that prove its just FUD. I understand that it's very hard to nail the scaling but this image proves that they went alot farther than just changing the size the image. They actually manipulated it to make make certain parts look bigger like the fins for example. And even the disk drive portion looks like it had stuff added to it. I don't know why anyone is taking that comparison seriously especially after you see who is behind it and who it was shared with.


Seems like a typical Discord FUD campaign with Tim Dog and his friends participating in it.

Its usual suspects trying their best to spread FUD.
I won't matter in the end, PS will be the more successful product.

 

[mckmas8808]

Opinions are like assholes, and yours is wrong

In all seriousness, the gif isn't the most flattering. To be honest, neither console is what I was hoping for. But you can't honestly put the Serie X in an image with the PS5 and say the Series X is the ugly one, that's just mental lol. but to each their own, and everybody is entitled to like what they like.

I don't think the XSX is ugly, but I do think it's boring looking. And I love the PS5 look, because it's the opposite of boring. It's trying to look like a console, whereas the XSX is trying to look like a PC tower (which is okay).

 

[Cravis]

For being that big and taking up that big of a foot print the least they could have done is make ALL PS4 games backwards compatible so I could put away my 4. I’m running out of space and Sony ain’t helping

 

[mckmas8808]

For being that big and taking up that big of a foot print the least they could have done is make ALL PS4 games backwards compatible so I could put away my 4. I’m running out of space and Sony ain’t helping

They are doing that.

 

[ethomaz]

For being that big and taking up that big of a foot print the least they could have done is make ALL PS4 games backwards compatible so I could put away my 4. I’m running out of space and Sony ain’t helping

Well that is exactly what they are doing lol

All PS4 games works on PS5 in PS4 and/or PS4 Pro mode.
About 100 PS4 games (it could be more today) were tested and ready for PS5 mode.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

For being that big and taking up that big of a foot print the least they could have done is make ALL PS4 games backwards compatible so I could put away my 4. I’m running out of space and Sony ain’t helping

After all the rumors PS4 BC is a given and I too will sell off my Pro. There wont be a reason to keep it if the other console plays it and maybe plays the games even better.

 

[HeadsUp7Up]

Someone already has the console.

Spoiler

*just ignore the dumb conversation

That got an audible laugh out of me!

 

[sinnergy]

Looks a bit flimsy with a stand , for such a expensive piece of kit , accidents are bound to happen . Weird design choice imo,

 

[Bladed Thesis]

It's comparisons like this that prove its just FUD. I understand that it's very hard to nail the scaling but this image proves that they went alot farther than just changing the size the image. They actually manipulated it to make make certain parts look bigger like the fins for example. And even the disk drive portion looks like it had stuff added to it. I don't know why anyone is taking that comparison seriously especially after you see who is behind it and who it was shared with.


Seems like a typical Discord FUD campaign with Tim Dog and his friends participating in it.

Goddamn, that discord group! The Xbot discord strikes again!

Be vigilant brothers! For the night is dark and full of discord warfare.

 

[lastmessiah]

Well that is exactly what they are doing lol

All PS4 games works on PS5 in PS4 and/or PS4 Pro mode.

Has this been confirmed?

 

[Bladed Thesis]

I'm working with 38 x 20 x ? cm

A guess. Fair play.

? = 9.5 / 7.5 / 6.5 depending of the part of the console... 9.5 is just for the BD-drive model.

An educated guess. Fair play.

It is way smaller than what people is trying to make it be.... the Digital model is probably way smaller than Series X.

A definitive statement after saying you were guessing?

I'm so lost.

 

[The Fartist]

I mean....damn

Damn! The PS5 is so powerful it anti-aliases itself in photos, AMAZING!

DAY FUCKING ONE!

 

[ethomaz]

Has this been confirmed?

Yes.

They said they tested 100 titles with the PS5 mode (PS5 clocks speeds) so these titles have better framerate or resolution (depend of game to game).
While that the vast majority of the 4000 PS4 titles works fine with PS4 or PS4 Pro clocks/mode.

 

[Bogroll]

I mean....damn

That's massive, it's a fucking mess if it looks like than in the flesh.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Goddamn, that discord group! The Xbot discord strikes again!

Be vigilant brothers! For the night is dark and full of discord warfare.

Yep just look and the names that pop up.

And this image comes directly from Sony.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Yes.

They said they tested 100 titles with the PS5 mode (PS5 clocks speeds) so these titles have better framerate or resolution (depend of game to game).
While that the vast majority of the 4000 PS4 titles works fine with PS4 or PS4 Pro clocks/mode.

Sadly that’s not the quote:

System architect Mark Cerny stated that the company has been testing the top 100 most played PS4 games, and "almost" all of them will be working as intended when PS5 arrives. Sony has also assured it has already tested "hundreds of titles" and will be testing "thousands more as we move toward launch"

Though I do assume PS5 will play certain titles better, the actual quote at the time was about right now, they had only tested 100 games as working, but were aiming for more.

 

[lastmessiah]

Sadly that’s not the quote:

System architect Mark Cerny stated that the company has been testing the top 100 most played PS4 games, and "almost" all of them will be working as intended when PS5 arrives. Sony has also assured it has already tested "hundreds of titles" and will be testing "thousands more as we move toward launch"

Though I do assume PS5 will play certain titles better, the actual quote at the time was about right now, they had only tested 100 games as working, but were aiming for more.

Thanks.

 

[ethomaz]

Sadly that’s not the quote:

System architect Mark Cerny stated that the company has been testing the top 100 most played PS4 games, and "almost" all of them will be working as intended when PS5 arrives. Sony has also assured it has already tested "hundreds of titles" and will be testing "thousands more as we move toward launch"

Though I do assume PS5 will play certain titles better, the actual quote at the time was about right now, they had only tested 100 games as working, but were aiming for more.

That quote is about PS5 mode/clocks BC.

Some found confusion in the quote and Sony updated says majority of 4000 titles will works in PS4/Pro BC mode without any previous tests.

The tests are about the enhanced PS5 mode which they had done about 100 in early March.

 

[ethomaz]

Thanks.

Thanks to spreading FUD?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

That quote is about PS5 mode/clocks BC.

It’s actually about BC as a whole. Read and watch again. At the time, the 100 top titles were working perfectly fine on PS5 with zero issues, but they were continuing to test others and were hopeful there would be thousands more. Ps4 games with Pro enhancements would work as they did On Pro, and any game with dynamic resolution/frame rate would work at their max potential. That was the whole point of the talk.

It wasn’t about PS5 running PS4 games in some sort of enhanced capacity, like a native ps4 game running 4k/60 with pushed visuals. That’s a much larger job. It’s coming for sure, but that wasn’t what it was about.

Thanks to spreading FUD?

 

[lastmessiah]

Thanks to spreading FUD?

Erm, if you say so.

 

[oldergamer]

Thanks to spreading FUD?

It's big, get over it man...

 

[ethomaz]

It’s actually about BC as a whole. Read and watch again. At the time, the 100 top titles were working perfectly fine on PS5 with zero issues, but they were continuing to test others and were hopeful there would be thousands more. Ps4 games with Pro enhancements would work as they did On Pro, and any game with dynamic resolution/frame rate would work at their max potential. That was the whole point of the talk.

It wasn’t about PS5 running PS4 games in some sort of enhanced capacity, like a native ps4 game running 4k/60 with pushed visuals. That’s a much larger job. It’s coming for sure, but that wasn’t what it was about.

More FUD lol

It's big, get over it man...

It is over 4000 titles... so yes indeed a big catalog.

Erm, if you say so.

Me?

Sony and Cerny.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

PS5 backwards compatibility list: Which PS4 games will be backwards compatible with PlayStation 5?

Backwards compatibility for the PlayStation 5, including which PS4 games will be backwards compatible with the PS5, explained.

www.eurogamer.net

“
During the PS5 system specs deep dive in March 2020, Mike Cerny revealed that nearly all of the top 100 PS4 games (ranked by playtime) would be playable on the PS5 at launch.



This was later elaborated on in a post by Hideaki Nishino on the official PlayStation blog about the PS5 specs. There it was explained that Sony hopes that the majority of games released for the PS4 will be playable on the PS5.

It's important to note that only games from the top 100 games played by PS4 users will be backwards compatible by launch and, even then, the whole list might not be available. The list of backwards compatible games for the PS5 will steadily grow after the console's release, similar to, we imagine, how the list of 360 games playable on the Xbox One has grown since it's debut.”

Unveiling New Details of PlayStation 5: Hardware Technical Specs [UPDATED]

Watch live for a deep dive into PS5's system architecture and how it will shape the future of games.

blog.playstation.com

UPDATE: A quick update on backward compatibility – With all of the amazing games in PS4’s catalog, we’ve devoted significant efforts to enable our fans to play their favorites on PS5. We believe that the overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 titles will be playable on PS5.

We’re expecting backward compatible titles will run at a boosted frequency on PS5 so that they can benefit from higher or more stable frame rates and potentially higher resolutions. We’re currently evaluating games on a title-by-title basis to spot any issues that need adjustment from the original software developers.

In his presentation, Mark Cerny provided a snapshot into the Top 100 most-played PS4 titles, demonstrating how well our backward compatibility efforts are going. We have already tested hundreds of titles and are preparing to test thousands more as we move toward launch. We will provide updates on backward compatibility, along with much more PS5 news, in the months ahead. Stay tuned!

Please tell me how this is not what I said? Please?

Mate you need to get over this shit.

 

[ethomaz]

PS5 backwards compatibility list: Which PS4 games will be backwards compatible with PlayStation 5?

Backwards compatibility for the PlayStation 5, including which PS4 games will be backwards compatible with the PS5, explained.

www.eurogamer.net

“
During the PS5 system specs deep dive in March 2020, Mike Cerny revealed that nearly all of the top 100 PS4 games (ranked by playtime) would be playable on the PS5 at launch.



This was later elaborated on in a post by Hideaki Nishino on the official PlayStation blog about the PS5 specs. There it was explained that Sony hopes that the majority of games released for the PS4 will be playable on the PS5.

It's important to note that only games from the top 100 games played by PS4 users will be backwards compatible by launch and, even then, the whole list might not be available. The list of backwards compatible games for the PS5 will steadily grow after the console's release, similar to, we imagine, how the list of 360 games playable on the Xbox One has grown since it's debut.”

Unveiling New Details of PlayStation 5: Hardware Technical Specs [UPDATED]

Watch live for a deep dive into PS5's system architecture and how it will shape the future of games.

blog.playstation.com

UPDATE: A quick update on backward compatibility – With all of the amazing games in PS4’s catalog, we’ve devoted significant efforts to enable our fans to play their favorites on PS5. We believe that the overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 titles will be playable on PS5.

We’re expecting backward compatible titles will run at a boosted frequency on PS5 so that they can benefit from higher or more stable frame rates and potentially higher resolutions. We’re currently evaluating games on a title-by-title basis to spot any issues that need adjustment from the original software developers.

In his presentation, Mark Cerny provided a snapshot into the Top 100 most-played PS4 titles, demonstrating how well our backward compatibility efforts are going. We have already tested hundreds of titles and are preparing to test thousands more as we move toward launch. We will provide updates on backward compatibility, along with much more PS5 news, in the months ahead. Stay tuned!

Please tell me how this is not what I said? Please?

Mate you need to get over this shit.

The update says exactly what I explained.

They tested 100+ most played titles to run in PS5 mode (PS5 clocks) that allow enhanced graphics/performance.
The vast majority of 4000 titles runs already in PS4/Pro mode (original clocks).
Sony is testing more titles to works with enhanced PS5 mode.

Cerny was pretty clear at the even (he said they tested 100 top titles to work in PS5 BC mode with enhanced resolution and/or performance) but Xbox fans started to spread FUD.

You keep spreading false info and I corrected you.

Why do you keep doing the Xbox FUD narrative even after it was debunked dozen of times? We are back to the FUD of March?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

You do realise the above quote is about maximising dynamic resolution and dynamic frame rates don’t you? So games with dynamic fps/res will hit their max targets...?

You dont see that do you.

Mate this whole “somebody said something that isn’t positive about ps5 they must be posting FUD!” thing is nuts. You did it with the sizes and now you’re doing it with this.

The LAST news about this was that all new PS4 games MUST work on PS5, but it’s not dictated that they be enhanced. The older games are potentially being looked at for enhancements but it’s a game by game basis, and takes a long tome. Same as Xbox.

But I’ve already said all this.

The clarification came from the original message being poor, but even the later message states that they have tested so many games and they work, and they hope to have 4000+ titles working at launch, but ALSO they are looking at the POSSIBILITY of adding extra frame rate enhancements and/resolution changes for games.

Why are you like this man? You take this shit so seriously.

 

[ethomaz]

You do realise the above quote is about maximising dynamic resolution and dynamic frame rates don’t you? So games with dynamic fps/res will hit their max targets...?

You dont see that do you.

Mate this whole “somebody said something that isn’t positive about pa5 they must be posting FUD!” thing is nuts. You did it with the sizes and now you’re doing it with this.

The LAST news about this was that all new PS4 games MUST work on PS5, but it’s not dictated that they be enhanced.

Why are you like this man?

No it is FUD when you say something is not true at all.

Sony confirmed that “almost” all 4000+ PS4 games runs via BC on PS5 (the almost is debatable... 80%, 90%, etc).
Cerny confirmed that 100 top titles were tested in boost (PS5 mode) with enhancement resolution and/or framerate.

I get the confusion in March because the PS.Blog made a mistake forgetting to say the 100 titles tested were in PS5 mode (so Cerny and PS.Blog stayed different things) but they fast fixed it few days later.

We are in June now.

That FUD died for 3 months already.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

You really think that PS5 will have 100+ titles that will run with PS5 boost mode with enhancements and features not possible on PS4...? (Ray tracing, 4k, 120fps, pusheout settings etc)

When the Xbox team who are let’s be honest here are absolutely in a different league to Sony when it comes to this, are only going to be able to have a few at launch...?

...and they still haven’t confirmed if their top titles like TLOU2 and GOW and GOT even have any changes on PS5...

...and games are still being remastered, too, for a price...?

Bless your heart. You really don’t know how much effort this shit takes do you?

Ok chief. Believe what you will, that’s fine.

 

[ethomaz]

You really think that PS5 will have 100+ titles that will run with PS5 boost mode with enhancements and features not possible on PS4...? (Ray tracing, 4k, 120fps, pushes out settings etc)

When the Xbox team who are let’s be honest here absolutely in a different league to Sony when it comes to this, are only going to be able to have a few at launch...?

Bless your heart. You really don’t know how much effort this shit takes do you?

Ok chief. Believe what you will, that’s fine.

Yeap Cerny said they tested it.
The TOP100 most popular games they tested works in PS5 mode enhanced.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Yeap Cerny said they tested it.

Video link of his talk where he specifically says in clear English that 100+ titles will be on PS5 with PS5 enhancements that take advantage of the new console and were not enhanced on PS4 Pro.

Or hell, just written word that’s clear.

I’ll wait...

 

[ethomaz]

Video link of his talk where he specifically says in clear English that 100+ titles will be on PS5 with PS5 enhancements that take advantage of the new console and were not enhanced on PS4 Pro.

Or hell, just written word that’s clear.

I’ll wait...

You know Cerny native language is English lol

 

[Gavin Stevens]

You’ve posted a link to the road to PS5 talk, even though above you said that needed another update because it wasn’t clear. In the talk he specifically says that ps5 currently supports 100 titles working fine and that they hope to have thousands more ready for launch. He also stays that there is a possibility that future games can be enhanced but it will be on a game by game basis.

You can’t possibly think there are over a 100 ps4 games on PS5 that will be in 4k with enhancements just right out the gate...? That sort of work per game takes a LOT of manpower and testing.

edit: I’ll say it again. Games will be enhanced. You will get games that will maximise their dynamic resolution and will hit their frame rate caps. But even just upping a games resolution or upping its max frame rate will require weeks of game testing to make sure it doesn’t break the game. You can’t just flip a switch, it’s not that easy. Resolution is easy enough but not if it degrades performance. Frame rate is easy enough but not if gameplay or physics are tied to it. This isn’t some quick thing. You WILL get them, but the quote above essentially was “our top 100 titles atm work on ps5 hitting their top resolution and top frame rate as this requires zero effort to function as the game already was designed for this, however they have been tested working. Other games will continue to be added”.

No doubt further improvements are coming and will happen, of course, for their top titles. But to expect 100+ games, maybe even all 4000+ titles, to be enhanced at launch... wow, no.

Edit2: also let me just say you’re talking to somebody who not only knows games WILL be enhanced but also strongly believes Sony are waiting for their time to announce full PS1/2/3 BC as well. I’m not just saying this to be an arse, it’s just common sense.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

If the air is hot enough, sure a gecko won’t go inside, no?

I assume they'll go in while I'm sleeping. They tend to make their appearances when we turn off the lights. They can get pretty small, so it's a concern. I don't have any devices with openings large enough for one to squeeze through right now, but the vents on the front look like they would be large enough, based on the perceived overall size of the device. SE Asia isn't a huge market for consoles, so I'm not sure if this is necessarily something that's taken into consideration during the design process. For example, it would be a definitely concern if I had a desktop computer. I'd put a screen over many vents.

 

[Bladed Thesis]

Yep just look and the names that pop up.

And this image comes directly from Sony.

Sorry, I don't recognize the name.

Can I ask you what you think the size comparisons between the Dualsense and XSX controller will be? How comparable? Equal? Dualsense slightly smaller? Genuinely interested because if you think they're in any way comparable, just take the official PS5 image right here that you posted and grab an official XSX image from MS and (to scale) get the two controllers with the consoles visible to be comparable sizes roughly.

I know it won't be an exact science but it will give a rough idea. I've already done it but I don't want to be attacked as an Xbot or called out for spreading FUD by doing a little cut and paste on my own.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

New Xbox controller is slightly smaller than the Xbox one controller.

Nee PS5 controller is slightly larger than the PS4 controller.

Old PS4 sticks were slightly larger than the old Xbox one sticks however PS5 sticks are supposed to be smaller now.

Actual sizes of the controllers I don’t think have been released though don’t quote me on that.