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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Nickolaidas

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All games release at 15/11? Or just a hint for playstation 5 redesign store?

The existence of ES6 inside that list is the biggest headscratcher there. One the one hand, Bethesda (if I remember correctly), showed the first Skyrim gameplay 6 months before it was released, so they could properly reveal it at E3 and have it released in November. On the other hand, Bethesda has stated time and again that ES6 is years away and that Starfield will come first.

So yeah, it seems bullshit because of that single game.
 
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ANIMAL1975

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So the reddit leak seems to be a piece of crap, if the pic is legit.

Also, 15th of November is the release date of the PS5 if the pic is true.
 

Fake

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The existence of ES6 inside that list is the biggest headscratcher there. One the one hand, Bethesda (if I remember correctly), showed the first Skyrim gameplay 6 months before it was released, so they could properly reveal it at E3 and have it released in November. On the other hand, Bethesda has stated time and again that ES6 is years away and that Starfield will come first.

So yeah, it seems bullshit because of that single game.

Indeed, but IMO more easy to believe in BF6 because the last one and besides they need to counter recent CoD games if I remember rights both compete against each other, am I right?
 

joe_zazen

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Jesus Christ I’ve been away for a day painting the hall and I feel like I’ve missed seven seasons of a tv show... I no longer recognise any of the characters, I’ve missed vital plot twists, and some how an old enemy who died in season one has come back...


Gossip Girl X Pretty Little Liars
 

Gediminas

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phil said the game was in-engine. why would they spend all that time adding water tech if it wasnt used. you dont need the game to have naval battles to have a good looking ocean. this wasnt cgi even if it was pre-rendered since it was confirmed to be in-engine.

super detailed ground isnt really that far fetched either. death stranding and several other games this gen have had some remarkable levels of details.
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a 12 tflops rdna gpu should be around 18-19 gcn 1.0 tflops. almost 10x more power. is it really that surpising that ground detail will look that good next gen?
yes, especially Bethesda games, 16 times the detail... :D
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
i’m shocked, pretty crazy what they’ve done with these current gen consoles!

oh yeah that’s right Guerrilla Games allowed kojima to use the engine didn’t they! i’ll have to pick it up when it’s on sale but it’s just made me realise how good the next games will look using that engine.
They didnt just allow kojipro to their use their engine, they allowed them to modify it and commit their changes into the base engine so that any improvements in the pipeline were available for the other team immediately.

whats interesting is the implications of that kind of unparalleled cooperation. it could also mean that any enhancements GG was making for their next gen game were available to kojipro devs right away for their current gen game.
 

nowhat

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Played Horizon Zero Dawn for a long time and water was the weakpoint of Decima Engine from that period of time. From HZD to DS was a huge jump in water graphics.
At launch water in HZD was really quite bad. Some shader tweaks were added with later patches to make it a bit better, but it's still far from great. I hope (and this should be given, but we'll see) that the collaboration between Guerrilla and Kojima Productions means we'll get the same level of water quality in the inevitable HZD 2.
 
Could you imagination a selling model that works like in the mobile phone business. You buy the 2 years subscription of Xbox or PlayStation and get the new consoles cheaper. You think that this is possible? Like 500 €/$ console for 400 but 2 years subscription
 

44alltheway

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All the games in the list have been named already or could reasonably be made up by someone who follows next-gen news, doesn’t seem like it’s real to me.
 

DaGwaphics

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Just totally curious of your reply not suggesting anything just wanting to know thoughts.

If the next Xbox is in fact 12 TF of RDNA and comes out as you say 18 TFs of GCN why would Phil stop at saying its only 2x the power of the current X.

Don't you think Phil, who is master of PR, would have jumped at the chance to say 3x?

Anything is possible. I will say the math is a little unusual as is the choice in design if they are only targeting 12TF GCN equivalent. Unless, the GPU is largely based on a GCN 5.0 part , which would work mathematically (as far as die size goes). The only issue there, is why were the dev kits so late if they were using old tech. Timing seems better for them waiting on big/medium navi for the dev kits. But what do I know. LOL
 

joe_zazen

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Could you imagination a selling model that works like in the mobile phone business. You buy the 2 years subscription of Xbox or PlayStation and get the new consoles cheaper. You think that this is possible? Like 500 €/$ console for 400 but 2 years subscription

in britain, equivalnet of $30 usd per month will get you gamepass ultimate + xbox 1x + free upgrade to xsx when released. I think it is popular for cash poor gamers.

edit: you own console after two years.
 
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SlimySnake

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At launch water in HZD was really quite bad. Some shader tweaks were added with later patches to make it a bit better, but it's still far from great. I hope (and this should be given, but we'll see) that the collaboration between Guerrilla and Kojima Productions means we'll get the same level of water quality in the inevitable HZD 2.
the waterfalls in death stranding look spectacular.

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rock textures look super detailed. geometry and tessellations are usually gpu killer but they somehow got around it.

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hellblade does look better but it doesnt have to be cgi.
 

ethomaz

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the waterfalls in death stranding look spectacular.

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rock textures look super detailed. geometry and tessellations are usually gpu killer but they somehow got around it.

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hellblade does look better but it doesnt have to be cgi.
Best water (better than that Hellblade II) continue being Sea of Thieves.
 

Reindeer

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the waterfalls in death stranding look spectacular.

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rock textures look super detailed. geometry and tessellations are usually gpu killer but they somehow got around it.

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hellblade does look better but it doesnt have to be cgi.
There isn't much going on in that game so obviously they could afford fancy rock textures.
 
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Niked

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the game is so damn under rated despite being many game outlets GOTY.
Please tell me why. I bought the Collectors Edition and my +4 year old son plays with the fetus much more than I play the game. Im in like chapter 3 or something. The game bored me. It was fun for a while and cool to throw shit granades, but will the game get any better?..
 
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HarryKS

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phil said the game was in-engine. why would they spend all that time adding water tech if it wasnt used. you dont need the game to have naval battles to have a good looking ocean. this wasnt cgi even if it was pre-rendered since it was confirmed to be in-engine.

super detailed ground isnt really that far fetched either. death stranding and several other games this gen have had some remarkable levels of details.
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a 12 tflops rdna gpu should be around 18-19 gcn 1.0 tflops. almost 10x more power. is it really that surpising that ground detail will look that good next gen?


The processing power isn't the issue. Manpower and efficiencies are.

Also, that gif is shrunk down, slowed down and does not paint an accurate picture of what a game truly looks like on your tv.

There were little strands and minute details and animations which can't show up in a videogame yet in that Senua video. It's pre-rendered. In-engine means nothing if it's manipulated to such an extent.
I'm willing to bet that a lot of what you've seen in the video won't show up in the game and came from a studio like Blur as a form of marketing material.
 

Kagero

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Please tell me why. I bought the Collectors Edition and my +4 year old son plays with the fetus much more than I play the game. Im in like chapter 3 or something. The game bored me. It was fun for a while and cool to throw shit granades, but will the game get any better?..
If it doesn’t click with you then it doesn’t click. Same as any game. I personally enjoyed every second of it from top to end.
 

Oddspeak

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So the reddit leak seems to be a piece of crap, if the pic is legit.

Also, 15th of November is the release date of the PS5 if the pic is true.

This is the most realistic launch lineup I've seen so far, outside of TES6, Battlefield (said to skip 2020), and possibly Spider-Man (seems too soon), but those can be easily explained by saying November 15 is a placeholder date. However, why would TES6 be there, but not Starfield, since the latter is supposed to come out first?

It's a much more believable list, but I'm gonna stay skeptical until the reveal event.
 

root number

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With a super powerful console, comes the responsibility to make games with a super amount of content.

Per se, Pokemon on Xbox. Include all regions, all Pokemon - otherwise it's just a waste.

Imagine Runto, a new 151 Pokemon... Yo fuck that.
 
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Jtibh

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lol. well shit. would you mind giving some examples. i dont want to get perma banned from this thread but i read through this page and i am not sure what constitutes as fanboy wars antagonism.

are you talking about the post where someone accused some posters of being in a discord and withholding github leaks? they all showed up here in a flash and admitted the existence of such discord group. so at the very least its somewhat credible. is that really perma ban worthy? i just want it clarified. i wont lose sleep not being able to discuss stuff like that.

personally, im not a fan of ban happy moderation. its what separates gaf from era. i like that you personally give users a lot more leeway than that board, but perma thread bans from now on? if you have to roll out a site ban/suspension for a week or two, i'd understand that, but perma bans for minor offenses this close to the finish line is lame and era like.
I've been perma banned from a thread and it was for my own good.
Went down the rabbit hole with some extrem x fan that dragged me down to his level.

Ever since i dont engage in cock fights and keep my sanity.

But i agree. Perma is a bit much. Ban for 2 weeks is a good choise to grab some fresh air and come back all energized.
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I think it's a pretty sound assumption Horizon 2 is either a Launch or Launch window game.
Releasing the original on PC is just a marketing tactic.

I wouldn't be surprised if the trailer for the PC version says "continue Aloys journey in Horizon 2 exclusively on PS5"
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I totally expect a TLOU2 remaster made with PS5 in mind.

It was a success and with PS4.

BC will only cater these that brought the game on PS4... new buyers will choose the PS5 version.
I think that would be harder to justify with PS4 BC
even with Zero enhancements.
 
thanks for taking the time to make a detailed reply. i will keep this in mind.

definitely, but he didnt do that when he revealed scorpio which was 25% better per flop than the 1.3 tflops gcn 1.0 xbox one. he didnt do that when he said that the cpu was 4x more powerful even though by richard's own tests, the cpu is actually 6.8x more powerful than the jaguar cores. they also said that the ssd is 40x faster than the x1x even though a better comparison would be the base x1 which had a far lower hdd read speed.

it seems phil does draw the line somewhere.

They also said last during E3 at Project Scarlet reveal - "We're seeing more than 40X performance increases over the current generation".... So, yes, X1(S) has to be included in this, not the mid-gen upgrade.

phil said the game was in-engine. why would they spend all that time adding water tech if it wasnt used. you dont need the game to have naval battles to have a good looking ocean. this wasnt cgi even if it was pre-rendered since it was confirmed to be in-engine.

Yes, he said that. But that was a target trailer and a cut-scene. Just wait for gameplay part and see will gameplay section reach target render.
 

ethomaz

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I think that would be harder to justify with PS4 BC
even with Zero enhancements.
What is needed to justify?

If you buy a PS5 you will buy the PS5 version lol

Why buy the PS4 version if you have a PS5? Makes no sense.

Now if you had the PS4 version because you played the game on PS4 then when you migrate to PS5 then you can play it via BC... that is cool.

I expect the PS5 version to be better than the PS4 and the enhanced PS4 BC version.

Enhancement from BC is equal do all games... it is generic enhancements... now a PS5 version is build to take advantage of PS5.
 
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