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[Mod of War]

Dial it back on the fanboy wars antagonism.

Everyone in here as well. JFC act like adults in one thread, one damned thread is all I ask and some of you are incapable of doing just that.

Permanent thread bans after this point, time off from the site for the more blatant offenders.

 

[Fake]

Hey Mod of War I have a question to you: This forum have any thread post limit or this thread can just keep going with posts?

 

[Mod of War]

Hey Mod of War I have a question to you: This forum have any thread post limit or this thread can just keep going with posts?

The old software had a limit due to the stress it would cause on servers with bloat. The new software doesn’t have those issues.

 

[EviLore]

Hey Mod of War I have a question to you: This forum have any thread post limit or this thread can just keep going with posts?

So far so good.

 

[Rossco EZ]

Dial it back on the fanboy antagonism.

Everyone in here as well. JFC act like adults in one thread, one damned thread is all I ask and some of you are incapable of doing just that.

Permanent thread bans after this point, time off from the site for the more blatant offenders.

you’ve been more than fair

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Jesus Christ I’ve been away for a day painting the hall and I feel like I’ve missed seven seasons of a tv show... I no longer recognise any of the characters, I’ve missed vital plot twists, and some how an old enemy who died in season one has come back...

 

[Fake]

The old software had a limit due to the stress it would cause on servers with bloat. The new software doesn’t have those issues.

So far so good.

So to infinity and beyond.

 

[Disco_]

I bought 2 pro as well, but I wanted more from a top end console, they keep skimping and going cheap its annoying, I wanted a proper cooler, a bigger box that was quiet and more power and 499 for the pro.

Sony need to get their act together and stop the cheap as chips 399 nonsense - if they are going to go cheap, leave out thw SSD and let us buy our own SSD and make a well cooled powerful console FFS.

PRO had fine cooling, they just cheaped out on fans. A few more pennies and they could've gotten ones that were less whiny.
Yup, I wish it was more powerful. Both of mine have been almost exclusively sitting in 1080p mode even though I'm suing 4k tv/monitor.
I don't expect user replaceable SSDs if secret sauce is real.

 

[Mod of War]

you’ve been more than fair

Gentle ribbing and jokes are fine, we can all laugh at those I would hope.

It’s the repeated ad nauseam from a bunch of the same people done in a way to dig at each other where conversations become a cycle of lunacy constantly repeated for the sake of quelling one’s consumer insecurities.

With that said, we can all agree that Stadia is going to own everything anyhow, so create your google accounts now!

 

[IllegalLemon]

I can understand people may have low expectations, but currently all informations points out to 12TF and there's literally nothing to suggest 9TF (I'm not counting misinterpretations).

And speaking about expectations. Few months from now 18-20TF monsters will launch on PC, so 12TF GPU will be nothing special and especially when RT performance will be much worse compared to Nvidia Ampere series.

Agreed!

 

[FranXico]

Gentle ribbing and jokes are fine, we can all laugh at those I would hope.

It’s the repeated ad nauseam from a bunch of the same people done in a way to dig at each other where conversations become a cycle of lunacy constantly repeated for the sake of quelling one’s consumer insecurities.

With that said, we can all agree that Stadia is going to own everything anyhow, so create your google accounts now!

I've been joking and throwing my jabs at the whole "insider" thing, hope I didn't take it too far though.

 

[SlimySnake]

Dial it back on the fanboy wars antagonism.

Everyone in here as well. JFC act like adults in one thread, one damned thread is all I ask and some of you are incapable of doing just that.

Permanent thread bans after this point, time off from the site for the more blatant offenders.

lol. well shit. would you mind giving some examples. i dont want to get perma banned from this thread but i read through this page and i am not sure what constitutes as fanboy wars antagonism.

are you talking about the post where someone accused some posters of being in a discord and withholding github leaks? they all showed up here in a flash and admitted the existence of such discord group. so at the very least its somewhat credible. is that really perma ban worthy? i just want it clarified. i wont lose sleep not being able to discuss stuff like that.

personally, im not a fan of ban happy moderation. its what separates gaf from era. i like that you personally give users a lot more leeway than that board, but perma thread bans from now on? if you have to roll out a site ban/suspension for a week or two, i'd understand that, but perma bans for minor offenses this close to the finish line is lame and era like.

 

[Akuji]

Got this from a friend working in gamestop germany. Hes not pc knowledable to fake it imo. Looks Kinda wrong but thought worth sharing

 

[Handy Fake]

lol. well shit. would you mind giving some examples. i dont want to get perma banned from this thread but i read through this page and i am not sure what constitutes as fanboy wars antagonism.

are you talking about the post where someone accused some posters of being in a discord and withholding github leaks? they all showed up here in a flash and admitted the existence of such discord group. so at the very least its somewhat credible. is that really perma ban worthy? i just want it clarified. i wont lose sleep not being able to discuss stuff like that.

personally, im not a fan of ban happy moderation. its what separates gaf from era. i like that you personally give users a lot more leeway than that board, but perma thread bans from now on? if you have to roll out a site ban/suspension for a week or two, i'd understand that, but perma bans for minor offenses this close to the finish line is lame and era like.

Usually in these cases I'd just say just keep your head down and use a bit of common sense, but then again...

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Got this from a friend working in gamestop germany. Hes not pc knowledable to fake it imo. Looks Kinda wrong but thought worth sharing

Placeholders.

 

[Rossco EZ]

lol. well shit. would you mind giving some examples. i dont want to get perma banned from this thread but i read through this page and i am not sure what constitutes as fanboy wars antagonism.

are you talking about the post where someone accused some posters of being in a discord and withholding github leaks? they all showed up here in a flash and admitted the existence of such discord group. so at the very least its somewhat credible. is that really perma ban worthy? i just want it clarified. i wont lose sleep not being able to discuss stuff like that.

personally, im not a fan of ban happy moderation. its what separates gaf from era. i like that you personally give users a lot more leeway than that board, but perma thread bans from now on? if you have to roll out a site ban/suspension for a week or two, i'd understand that, but perma bans for minor offenses this close to the finish line is lame and era like.

Man walks into room. Sees Xbox more powerful than ps5z. Walks out crying

stuff like that i’d assume

 

[Handy Fake]

Got this from a friend working in gamestop germany. Hes not pc knowledable to fake it imo. Looks Kinda wrong but thought worth sharing

Would probably blur out the phone number on the postit before posting those pics, chief.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Elder Scrolls 6? I was under the impression it will be worked on AFTER Starfield ...

 

[ANIMAL1975]

Placeholders.

Guessing,,,, or really just guessing Heise?

 

[nikolino840]

I think that the new mid gen are consoles with lower specs and lower price

 

[Nickolaidas]

Would probably blur out the phone number on the postit before posting those pics, chief.

Little late for that. Someone's about to be fired.

 

[TherapistGaymer]

Once again thank God. I'm glad I dont have your job because this thread would be very thin. I mean I've watched some people you say to stop; pop up and just do it differently. It reminds me of a child in school that won't quit talking when the teacher says to close it. You are way nice to these people.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Got this from a friend working in gamestop germany. Hes not pc knowledable to fake it imo. Looks Kinda wrong but thought worth sharing

Could be real entries but simply preorder placeholders.

when xbox one was open for sale you could preorder that indie game Below right away

it got released like 4 years later

 

[ANIMAL1975]

Would probably blur out the phone number on the postit before posting those pics, chief.

Too late

 

[Nickolaidas]

Aww, I just got a notification that my GAF profile is one year old.

*sniff*

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Guessing,,,, or really just guessing Heise?

Honestly the things I hear on the software side is very limited in scope.

Trust OsirisBlack way more for that kind of thing, dude is on it.

I would guess

 

[Fake]

Is Elder Scroll 6 a next gen tittle?

 

[Mod of War]

lol. well shit. would you mind giving some examples. i dont want to get perma banned from this thread but i read through this page and i am not sure what constitutes as fanboy wars antagonism.

are you talking about the post where someone accused some posters of being in a discord and withholding github leaks? they all showed up here in a flash and admitted the existence of such discord group. so at the very least its somewhat credible. is that really perma ban worthy? i just want it clarified. i wont lose sleep not being able to discuss stuff like that.

personally, im not a fan of ban happy moderation. its what separates gaf from era. i like that you personally give users a lot more leeway than that board, but perma thread bans from now on? if you have to roll out a site ban/suspension for a week or two, i'd understand that, but perma bans for minor offenses this close to the finish line is lame and era like.

We have always had more strict moderation in OTs, and it will remain that way. There are literally hundreds of other praise and doom & gloom threads where people troll to their hearts content (within reason), some still get actioned based on their account history with infractions.

We just ask that you keep it civil. The thread did not derail too much from that Discord drama, and was able to pretty much right itself in quick order before a mod had to step in. I give credence to 666 for that.

But in all seriousness, I commend most of you in here for not getting too carried away and righting the ship yourselves.

As long as you’re not intentionally trying to derail with the same circular arguments used in other threads, you’ll be fine. The rules we allow to bend everywhere else from the TOS, apply at literal face value in OTs.

It’s all case by case, but you know trolling and intentional console wars when you see it. Use the report feature and we will make a determination. That is the best I can tell everyone.

And I mean it, great job in here for not letting that Discord/Twitter drama go too far.

 

[Disco_]

Placeholders.

Didn't EA already confirm no battlefield game til 2022? Having bf2020 listed there makes the rest suspect. Not to mention a bunch of 1st party, single player games releasing close to each other, cannibalizing their own sales.

 

[Pantz]

What would be "PUGB Remastered" ?

 

[SlimySnake]

The assets in those sections are never gonna show up in the game. They're just cut scenes probably made by an outsourced animation studio. You don't play cutscenes. At most the big monster person will look like something in the game. The smoke billowing, the water(why would there be water in the game unless there's naval battles and a few interspersed coastline sequences of you walking by the beach) and the super detailed ground are things that will never show up in the game. They're a waste of resources.

You should know better. It's gonna look nice but temper your expectations.

Again, cutscenes mean nothing unless they're truly representative of the game. This was purely a montage with cgi spliced in.

phil said the game was in-engine. why would they spend all that time adding water tech if it wasnt used. you dont need the game to have naval battles to have a good looking ocean. this wasnt cgi even if it was pre-rendered since it was confirmed to be in-engine.

super detailed ground isnt really that far fetched either. death stranding and several other games this gen have had some remarkable levels of details.

a 12 tflops rdna gpu should be around 18-19 gcn 1.0 tflops. almost 10x more power. is it really that surpising that ground detail will look that good next gen?

 

[Rossco EZ]

phil said the game was in-engine. why would they spend all that time adding water tech if it wasnt used. you dont need the game to have naval battles to have a good looking ocean. this wasnt cgi even if it was pre-rendered since it was confirmed to be in-engine.

super detailed ground isnt really that far fetched either. death stranding and several other games this gen have had some remarkable levels of details.

a 12 tflops rdna gpu should be around 18-19 gcn 1.0 tflops. almost 10x more power. is it really that surpising that ground detail will look that good next gen?

i haven’t played death stranding yet but holy f is that actually in game?

 

[vivftp]

Akuji would you say you trust this person to be truthful?

 

[Mod of War]

i haven’t played death stranding yet but holy f is that actually in game?

Yes.

 

[Akuji]

Would probably blur out the phone number on the postit before posting those pics, chief.

God Damm im on mobile and feel very disabled when i try to navigate on my smartphone... Could a mod remove the pics? I will repost when i get home in a few hours.

 

[Fake]

i haven’t played death stranding yet but holy f is that actually in game?

Yes. I was quite surprise how Decima engine evolve in that departament in comparison with Horizon Zero Dawn terrible water quality. Played Horizon Zero Dawn for a long time and water was the weakpoint of Decima Engine from that period of time. From HZD to DS was a huge jump in water graphics.

 

[Handy Fake]

God Damm im on mobile and feel very disabled when i try to navigate on my smartphone... Could a mod remove the pics? I will repost when i get home in a few hours.

Mod of War

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

phil said the game was in-engine. why would they spend all that time adding water tech if it wasnt used. you dont need the game to have naval battles to have a good looking ocean. this wasnt cgi even if it was pre-rendered since it was confirmed to be in-engine.

super detailed ground isnt really that far fetched either. death stranding and several other games this gen have had some remarkable levels of details.

a 12 tflops rdna gpu should be around 18-19 gcn 1.0 tflops. almost 10x more power. is it really that surpising that ground detail will look that good next gen?

Just totally curious of your reply not suggesting anything just wanting to know thoughts.

If the next Xbox is in fact 12 TF of RDNA and comes out as you say 18 TFs of GCN why would Phil stop at saying its only 2x the power of the current X.

Don't you think Phil, who is master of PR, would have jumped at the chance to say 3x?

 

[Nickolaidas]

We have always had more strict moderation in OTs, and it will remain that way. There are literally hundreds of other praise and doom & gloom threads where people troll to their hearts content (within reason), some still get actioned based on their account history with infractions.

We just ask that you keep it civil. The thread did not derail too much from that Discord drama, and was able to pretty much right itself in quick order before a mod had to step in. I give credence to 666 for that.

But in all seriousness, I commend most of you in here for not getting too carried away and righting the ship yourselves.

As long as you’re not intentionally trying to derail with the same circular arguments used in other threads, you’ll be fine. The rules we allow to bend everywhere else from the TOS, apply at literal face value in OTs.

It’s all case by case, but you know trolling and intentional console wars when you see it. Use the report feature and we will make a determination. That is the best I can tell everyone.

And I mean it, great job in here for not letting that Discord/Twitter drama go too far.

You're a good mod, Mod of War.

 

[Akuji]

Akuji would you say you trust this person to be truthful?

I trust this person to be unable to fake it. its a friend of a friend sooooo cant say anything definitive sorry. Have nothing else but that pic. No extra info. Nothing

 

[ANIMAL1975]

Honestly the things I hear on the software side is very limited in scope.

Trust OsirisBlack way more for that kind of thing, dude is on it.

I would guess

Thanks mate, didn't like that entries list much (it's missing a scy fy game that has enemy soldiers with red eyes, if you know what i means )

 

[Mod of War]

You're a good mod, Mod of War.

 

[Nickolaidas]

- Launch games planned currently include:

· New Killzone Title from Guerrilla Games (This title has been very much under wraps for years. It seems to be a huge departure / reboot from the rest of the franchise. Also extra focus on multiplayer.)

· Demon’s Souls Remake from Bluepoint Games (It’s a full remake of the game. Despite having Miyazaki’s blessing the game is sure to be a source of debate for fans since Bluepoint are taking artistic liberties and adding their own ideas.)

· SOCOM Reboot from San Diego Studio (Long rumored to be in development at Guerrilla, the game is being developed by ex Zipper Interactive employees and burnt out MLB devs using the Decima Engine. It has almost photo-realistic graphics.)

· Gran Turismo 7 from Polyphony Digital (Huge project that has been in development since 2014. The game is designed to be supported for 10 years and has more employees working on it than any game Sony has ever made.)

· New Ratchet & Clank from Insomniac Games (Start of a new Trilogy and sequel to the Future series the game has been in development since before the 2016 Remake was released. This game sees the return of space exploration, hoverboots and competitive multiplayer which could be free to play. Still being decided.)

· New Multiplayer Title (Project Vanguard) from Remedy Entertainment (Sony is planning to acquire Remedy based on the reception to this game and a few other variables. In terms of this game, think of a cross between Control, Star Trek and the film Gravity.)

· WiLD from Wild Sheep Studio (Back in 2017 the game was a mess and lacked direction with Michel Ancel devoting more time to Beyond Good & Evil 2. He is still on board just in a lesser capacity. The game has switched to Decima Engine and will be on PS4 and PS5.)

· New Action Title from London Studio (Actually inspired by Hellblade, this game is a short, but hopefully satisfying open world Guy Ritchie-like adventure.)

· New Action Title from Japan Studio (From the makers of Forbidden Siren, this game is more of a spiritual successor to Gravity Rush 2.)

So the reddit leak seems to be a piece of crap, if the pic is legit.

Also, 15th of November is the release date of the PS5 if the pic is true.

 

[SlimySnake]

We have always had more strict moderation in OTs, and it will remain that way. There are literally hundreds of other praise and doom & gloom threads where people troll to their hearts content (within reason), some still get actioned based on their account history with infractions.

We just ask that you keep it civil. The thread did not derail too much from that Discord drama, and was able to pretty much right itself in quick order before a mod had to step in. I give credence to 666 for that.

But in all seriousness, I commend most of you in here for not getting too carried away and righting the ship yourselves.

As long as you’re not intentionally trying to derail with the same circular arguments used in other threads, you’ll be fine. The rules we allow to bend everywhere else from the TOS, apply at literal face value in OTs.

It’s all case by case, but you know trolling and intentional console wars when you see it. Use the report feature and we will make a determination. That is the best I can tell everyone.

And I mean it, great job in here for not letting that Discord/Twitter drama go too far.

thanks for taking the time to make a detailed reply. i will keep this in mind.

Just totally curious of your reply not suggesting anything just wanting to know thoughts.

If the next Xbox is in fact 12 TF of RDNA and comes out as you say 18 TFs of GCN why would Phil stop at saying its only 2x the power of the current X.

Don't you think Phil, who is master of PR, would have jumped at the chance to say 3x?

definitely, but he didnt do that when he revealed scorpio which was 25% better per flop than the 1.3 tflops gcn 1.0 xbox one. he didnt do that when he said that the cpu was 4x more powerful even though by richard's own tests, the cpu is actually 6.8x more powerful than the jaguar cores. they also said that the ssd is 40x faster than the x1x even though a better comparison would be the base x1 which had a far lower hdd read speed.

it seems phil does draw the line somewhere.

 

[Fake]

I was expected Battlefield 2020 more soon after that initial problem with the previous.

 

[Rossco EZ]

Yes.

i’m shocked, pretty crazy what they’ve done with these current gen consoles!

Yes. I was quite surprise how Decima engine evolve in that departament in comparison with Horizon Zero Dawn terrible water quality. Played Horizon Zero Dawn for a long time and water was the weakpoint of Decima Engine from that period of time. From HZD to DS was a huge jump in water graphics.

oh yeah that’s right Guerrilla Games allowed kojima to use the engine didn’t they! i’ll have to pick it up when it’s on sale but it’s just made me realise how good the next games will look using that engine.

 

[Moses85]

So the reddit leak seems to be a piece of crap, if the pic is legit.

Also, 15th of November is the release date of the PS5 if the pic is true.

This list is ridiculous

 

[Handy Fake]

So the reddit leak seems to be a piece of crap, if the pic is legit.

Also, 15th of November is the release date of the PS5 if the pic is true.

Akuji

Good work Nick.

 

[Nickolaidas]

This list is ridiculous

Yeah, the Elder Scrolls 6 *does* make it seem fake, doesn't it?

 

[Tripolygon]

Just a little bit of clarification about fp16 utilization on pro. Every game on pro by default uses it. It doesn't double performance, it makes certain things run a little faster and saves memory. No it doesn't require special work and knowledge to use. Just simple line of code for 16-bit Floating Point Conversion.