brap
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I too respect nazis, people that hate gays, people that are racist, etc /s
Gotta respect those beliefs!!
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Disco Elysium Developers Shout Out Marx And Engels In Game Awards Victory Speech
Gotta respect those beliefs!!
mrBarrelNut
Member
Good to know. I was about to buy this. but now I decided against it. Some of my relatives were killed because of commies.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Funny enough, if you actually *played* the game or did any research at all - they are incredibly critical of these ideals (among others not mentioned). Outrage less, research more.
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Rean no Kiseki
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Guess NEMESIS should've given her time to put on some make up and wear some "battle pantsu".
I know you're smart enough to know that r-right?
This is Claire's model in RE2R
I'm gussing you think she's unattractive IRL because of the game's setting, tone and the character artist?
I trust people who played the game here on GAF, and none of them said it pushes any political agenda.
Guess Kojima needs to pull MGS and DS off of all digital stores as it's deeply political.
I don't think a lot of people read the whole post.
brap
Banned
Claire irl looks fine. In the game she looks like gollum. Are you guys all just a bunch of corporate shills? All the faces in Crapcoms new games look godawful.Guess NEMESIS should've given her time to put on some make up and wear some "battle pantsu".
I know you're smart enough to know that r-right?
This is Claire's model in RE2R
I'm gussing you think she's unattractive IRL because of the game's setting, tone and the character artist?
I trust people who played the game here on GAF, and none of them said it pushes any political agenda.
Guess Kojima needs to pull MGS and DS off of all digital stores as it's deeply political.
I don't think a lot of people read the whole post.
Richard Packer
Member
I don't think normal people care about these things brap.
DR2K
Banned
You have a strong hatred for women so at least you have something in common?
Rean no Kiseki
Banned
I wish i was a shill so i can get me some sweet cash but alas i'm not, i just don't care what she looks like as long as she looks reasonably good.
And i'm married and i'm not 13 anymore so my peepee doesn't get tingly at the mere sight of some digital picture of tites, i just want to play a fun game in what spare time i have.
Want a game all about dem tites i hear a new Senran Kagura and Oneechanbara game is on the horizon so you can get some roundy tities that either look like water ballons or steel balls depending on the game, to fap away!
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Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Are you doing a bit here, Brap? Are you pretending your an Era member or something with all this faux outrage mongering you are doing? I genuinely can't tell.
brap
Banned
They're all odd looking uncanny valley shit.
No. I had a chance to get DMCV for $15 on BF and its like nah idk they look so weird compared to the other games.
Mine either Mr. Strawman
Never played senran kagura. Snoy will censor oneechanbara so who cares?
I mean you're gay so you probably hate women more than I ever could. Nice strawman though.
Richard Packer
Member
Rean no Kiseki
Banned
X Square doubt all you want my boy doesn't change the fact, although i understand the irony of it since this is the internet.They're all odd looking uncanny valley shit.
No. I had a chance to get DMCV for $15 on BF and its like nah idk they look so weird compared to the other games.
Mine either Mr. Strawman
Never played senran kagura. Snoy will censor oneechanbara so who cares?
I mean you're gay so you probably hate women more than I ever could. Nice strawman though.
The constant bitching on de-sexualizing female characters in video game by a lot of gamers tells me they've never actually HAD sex, or enough of it to not care about some pixles on a TV screen.
This discussion has ran it course and I've derailed the actual discussion of the game and the claims against it's agenda long enough.
Sayonara brap-kun i do enjoy our back and fourth, see Ya in another thread.
brap
Banned
I'm so sorry wtf. Had no idea Vergil, Leon, Dante, and that black hair guy from DMCV were female. I had no idea I was misgendering them all these years.
"I'm spouting off a hot steamy load of horseshit and I don't want to be proven wrong so I'm leaving"
Rean no Kiseki
Banned
Dante? WTF? We were talking about Jill and Claire and Resident Evil and not once did i bring up DMC or Dante?
"Hot steamy load of horse shit" is certainly one way of describing your post.
brap
Banned
I said ALL of Capcoms faces look like goofy ass uncanny valley shit but of course you just have to pick out the women. Does that offend you? Are Jill and Claire your wives? Will you commit suicide because man say bad thing about video game girl on interweb? I will never understand how you people get so upset about opinions.
Me: uggo. *moves on with life*
Everybody else: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT FUCKING OPINION THAT'S WRONG YOURE AN INCEL YOU HATE WOMEN *takes a soylent sip break* NORMAL PEOPLE DONT HAVE OPINIONS THEY WATCH WRESTLING LIKE ME MR. DICK PACKER
existensmaximum
Member
Sure man, whatever. Being critical to communism and praising Marxism to me, is just retarded and dangerous. I won't support that kind of people, just saying.
Bl@de
Member
Makes sense if you play Disco Elysium. But I doubt they are serious about communism.
discoelysium.gamepedia.com
Mazovian Socio-Economics
Mazovian Socio-Economics is a thought in Disco Elysium. People think Communism was some crazy idea that had its comeuppance 40 years ago. A fever that shook the world, never to return again. They were right. Until *he* woke up today – a spiritual corpse responsive only to the call of Commodore...
discoelysium.gamepedia.com
Keihart
Member
Is the game or the music on it propaganda? no? then who gives a shit. Even if it is tho, who really cares, a shitty game won't stop being shitty with all the propaganda in the world and viceversa.
Lord of the rings it's some kind of libertarian metaphor and not many people give a shit about that, even commies love it.
Lord of the rings it's some kind of libertarian metaphor and not many people give a shit about that, even commies love it.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Good on them, your rage, your salty tears and your apparent hypocricy over "other places" and their pitchfork and torch campaigns that you're happy to take after when it suits your beliefs and criticize all other times ammuse us common folk (not commie folk, lol, don't get ahead of yourself you cold war born and raised grandpa)!
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Fuz
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Waste of time trying to discuss this with propaganda brainwashed americans.
It's not.
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The Scrivener
Member
Well, that's one less copy sold then, communist twats. Also, what was that guy wearing? Was he a fucking chef?
And that woman, on screen it said her name followed by Za/Um, and I assumed they were her pronouns? Or is it the name of the devs? Obnoxious if it was her pronouns.
And that woman, on screen it said her name followed by Za/Um, and I assumed they were her pronouns? Or is it the name of the devs? Obnoxious if it was her pronouns.
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PhilipDoesMatter
Member
So that's maybe why people departed to ResetEra. The comments there are exactly the opposite from here.
Eh.
I can understand not buying the game out of principle (Not a fan of communism in its various forms), but it is what it is. The game certainly still excellent and they're self aware enough to satirize their own beliefs. In general they can shout out to whoever they want, freedom of speech and all that. It doesn't help to say *Well, I can't do X in general*. Because you should just say *X* and live with the consequences.
Dude....
A: Again, this does nothing except piss people off by assuming horseshit. For your information: I live north of you, no *cold war propaganda* here, except from people that actually lived behind the iron curtain, because 2 of em' teached me math.
B: Yes, it isn't. Communism is also not Soviet Era Communism alone and the term communism INCLUDES marxism.
I can understand not buying the game out of principle (Not a fan of communism in its various forms), but it is what it is. The game certainly still excellent and they're self aware enough to satirize their own beliefs. In general they can shout out to whoever they want, freedom of speech and all that. It doesn't help to say *Well, I can't do X in general*. Because you should just say *X* and live with the consequences.
Dude....
A: Again, this does nothing except piss people off by assuming horseshit. For your information: I live north of you, no *cold war propaganda* here, except from people that actually lived behind the iron curtain, because 2 of em' teached me math.
B: Yes, it isn't. Communism is also not Soviet Era Communism alone and the term communism INCLUDES marxism.
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Storm Prelude
Member
Oh no
Game: completely ruined now
Honestly, sometimes you guys are way worse than the special snowflakes you always brag about.
Game: completely ruined now
Honestly, sometimes you guys are way worse than the special snowflakes you always brag about.
Richard Packer
Member
A totally normal and well adjusted person.
Shmunter
Member
Comedy vs tragedy. Observe the fine line
The Bloody-Nine
Member
*Jazz hands*
Papa
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HeresJohnny
Member
How about developers just stick to making games and leave their politics out of it? Why is that so hard for these chuckleheads? Now I can’t buy any games from them because I have to worry that I’m surpporting Marxists.
plushyp
Member
Yes, exactly! The game makes fun of every political ideology under the sun. Also, it's the closest game we've gotten to a Planescape: Torment spiritual successor till date.
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Papa
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Just play what you wanna play bro. You aren’t changing the world on your lonesome. You can enjoy their game then call them dirty commie fucks on the internet. You don’t have to pick just one.
Papa
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#Phonepunk#
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When I heard the Chapo guys were in the game my eyes rolled back as far into my head as possible.
I’m sorry if you want to see the most privileged airhead coastal elitist bullshit ever then listen to the Chapo guys.
It’s like there is a whole generation of these wanna be Marxists who don’t have actual jobs they just sit around in Brooklyn not working while talking class solidarity bullshit.
I’m sorry if you want to see the most privileged airhead coastal elitist bullshit ever then listen to the Chapo guys.
It’s like there is a whole generation of these wanna be Marxists who don’t have actual jobs they just sit around in Brooklyn not working while talking class solidarity bullshit.
LOL.
recklesscognition
Member
Your whole life revolves around a job. It doesn't horrify me that there may be people out there who aren't working and are, gasp, enjoying themselves.
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If you ascribe to the politics that you want to convey in your work, what's the difference?
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Again, actually do research and employ basic skills such as critical thinking before you immediately jump onto outrage mongering. You are acting no differently than the folks over at Polygon, ResetEra, and other sites of ill repute. Shouting out Marx and Engels in a tongue-in-cheek manner that fits perfectly into the world they crafted is not the same as actually praising and supporting Marxism.
HaveButOneLife
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Does that matter? No, I'm talking about the grand scheme of things and what other social justice developers are doing. This little stunt just confirmed to me that I shouldn't be supporting these developers.
You were the one who said this game is Marxist-esque so my point still stands.
Wolfenstein for example was a perfectly fine series because we all hate Nazis, but then Machine Games chose to smear a specific base in their marketing campaign for New Colossus so that is a pretty clear difference.
Developers just shouldn't insert their ideologies into games.
Oh the irony. How do you know it was tongue in cheek? Kotaku is taking it as a means to champion Marxism so it must have some sort of seriousness for them to make an article about it.
Nope. Sorry, chief, I don't respect people who subscribe to an ideology that's solely responsible for the reason why the 20th century was the most violent century in history, and who believes in full government control.
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Grandmaster Hash
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I mean, the British glorify Churchill despite him being directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Indians. People look up to and admire and take inspiration from much worse people than Marx yet they get a pass? If you want to condemn people for admiring figures you find questionable you could at least be consistent across the board. If that is anathema to you then you'd have to condemn a lot of people.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
These aren't social justice developers. They are outright critical of Marx, Engels, Stalin, and many others. Did you even play the game or do research into it before immediately assuming the worst about them? It clearly looks like you haven't.
I have played the game. To the point where I have beaten it 3 times now with wildly different characters. One that supports moralism, one that hates everyone and just wants to get shit faced and party, and one that supports communism. I am familiar with their writing, comedy, and have the basic concept of critical thinking - something a number of people here seem to have forgotten when they entered this thread.
Kotaku is full of incompetents. One of their leading contributors/editors literally tried to call a grown female character with breasts that would make Dolly Parton blush as something only pedophiles would enjoy.
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Starfield
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Democracy and communism are mutually bad. There isn't a worse one between those because they suck in their own way. Democracy I just a big fat lie while communism is just plain bad in general.
Edit: so there's people in here who decide to not play a game because the developers have a different mindset than you?
Well there's a product for you it's called Resetera.com there you will find plenty of people who have the same mindset as you!
Seriously as much as I hate stuff like this too there's sometimes good games even behind devs who went completely woke or anything else. Life is Strange for example. I'd consider it a story telling masterpiece even when it's completely woke
Edit: so there's people in here who decide to not play a game because the developers have a different mindset than you?
Well there's a product for you it's called Resetera.com there you will find plenty of people who have the same mindset as you!
Seriously as much as I hate stuff like this too there's sometimes good games even behind devs who went completely woke or anything else. Life is Strange for example. I'd consider it a story telling masterpiece even when it's completely woke
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Uhm
Again, you may want to do research themselves. They are absolutly self-critical, but the individual people working there are socialists. I've already pointed it out, but ZA/UM sees themselves as a socialist movement of artists, has been so before they even started developing video games.
Just because you are able to critizize yourself doesn't mean that you don't stand in for these ideals. And you're right they aren't SJW's in the western sense. Marxists aren't automatically SJW's either.
This quote is not made up. This quote is how they describe themselves.
Edit: And again, doesn't matter to me. Paid full price because its a damn good rpg. But it's not one or the other.
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existensmaximum
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OK! So they don't actually support Marx or Engels, and were in fact criticizing them? Then this is a stupid thread. Really, I don't care enough about this game to do that kind of research
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