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[Virex]

Hope they give me a share of the money we made with the game. Our game has been out a while now and we're all waiting for our share of the profits.

 

[-Arcadia-]

You have a strong hatred for women so at least you have something in common?

Brap is one of my best friends here, and nobody has treated me better, or more respectfully. He just happens to have a sense of humor, and opinions you can’t accept, without flying off the handle and resorting to slander. Great post history, btw.

Its always funny watching white fragility in action in all forms. Even the hypothetical scenario that would never happen that I mentioned has your blood boiling.

Some of y’all sure hate women. Those 5 mins they took command of a fight might have been the worst your 4 inche cocks have ever gone thru.

Movie sucked. Felt like sausage fest all the way thru. Was just a boring 3 hour eulogy up until the end.

There’s no reason to vote republican. I mean unless you just got to have that off shore tax haven of yours stay tax free or something. Whatever you perceive on the internet as “SJW” or “political correctness” of other people you really don’t know that can alter your view so drastically then you’re either very privileged, incredibly stupid, or should seek treatment.

Instead of worrying about other people. Just vote on issues that actually matter to you.

If you don’t have any issues you’re worried about, maybe don’t vote at all? If you don’t understand what your vote will do, then don’t do anything above your pay grade. You don’t have to vote, you can stay home and yell racial slurs to your gamer buds on the internet.

Strawmanning on censorship:

Oh no what will I do without my sexualized 14 year olds in bikinis? Not be a pedophile I guess.

Honestly I’m super liberal and even I got banned for having an opinions regardless of knowledge on subject.

The first Reset ban I ever agreed with.

part of being a decent human being is respecting others beliefs.

I agree. You should try it, you piece of disingenuous shit.

 

[Trojita]

and Jill objectively looks worse. She went from being asian to some random american woman.

Are you blind?

 

[-Arcadia-]

Are you blind?

Not quite on the Jill-is-Asian bandwagon, but you can definitely see it in some of her original RE3 features. Someone posted official classic art the other day, where it was really showing.

Casting for this might have been advised to pick a mixed Japanese/American actress.

 

[Raven117]

Marxism is not Soviet Union era Communism. Hence, no need to discuss ‘bread lines’.

Why do all Marxist supports never actually admit when their ideology has been tried and failed? They always say "but it wasn't what Marxist intended!" Funny how Democracies don't have this qualification.

Maybe its because the theory itself is flawed by not taking into account human nature. Democracy and Capitalism does take this into account and has ushered in unparalled growth and technology for billions of people.

Marxist (and Communists) are spineless losers who dont understand jack shit.

 

[HaveButOneLife]

These aren't social justice developers. They are outright critical of Marx, Engels, Stalin, and many others. Did you even play the game or do research into it before immediately assuming the worst about them? It clearly looks like you haven't.



I have played the game. To the point where I have beaten it 3 times now with wildly different characters. One that supports moralism, one that hates everyone and just wants to get shit faced and party, and one that supports communism. I am familiar with their writing, comedy, and have the basic concept of critical thinking - something a number of people here seem to have forgotten when they entered this thread.

Kotaku is full of incompetents. One of their leading contributors/editors literally tried to call a grown female character with breasts that would make Dolly Parton blush as something only pedophiles would enjoy.

I flat-out told you that I didn't play the game because of this article but this is all I needed to convince me to get the game, however my point still stands on the other social justice developers and urinalists in this industry.

Looks like this is Kotaku's fault.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

Are they equal opposites?

Is a work of fiction and an economic manifesto even the same thing to compare?

 

[nemiroff]

These aren't social justice developers. They are outright critical of Marx, Engels, Stalin, and many others. Did you even play the game or do research into it before immediately assuming the worst about them? It clearly looks like you haven't.

I have played the game. To the point where I have beaten it 3 times now with wildly different characters. One that supports moralism, one that hates everyone and just wants to get shit faced and party, and one that supports communism. I am familiar with their writing, comedy, and have the basic concept of critical thinking - something a number of people here seem to have forgotten when they entered this thread.

Kotaku is full of incompetents. One of their leading contributors/editors literally tried to call a grown female character with breasts that would make Dolly Parton blush as something only pedophiles would enjoy.

I very much appreciate your clarification. I trusted "gaf reporting" and because I'm too busy these days and was skimming the story it didn't even register with me that it was Kotaku (what a shitshow..) that did the "translation" so-to-speak.

 

[Teslerum]

I very much appreciate your clarification. I trusted "gaf reporting" and because I'm too busy these days and was skimming the story it didn't even register with me that it was Kotaku (what a shitshow..) that did the "translation" so-to-speak.

I flat-out told you that I didn't play the game because of this article but this is all I needed to convince me to get the game, however my point still stands on the other social justice developers and urinalists in this industry.

Looks like this is Kotaku's fault.

-.-

Again, the developers themselves ARE socialists and they did shout out to Engels and Marx. That doesn't make them SJW's nor does it make them not what they are. They are just at the same time able to poke fun at their own ideology. (They went after every political direction as well).

But they are in fact self-described socialists before they even were game developers. For the thousandenst time I put the same quote out they wrote themselves for their artstation profile a few years ago:

ZA/UM Studio jobs

Open jobs by ZA/UM Studio on ArtStation. ZA/UM is a cultural movement uniting artists, writers, entrepreneurs and socialists, established 2009. Named after the Russian futurists' language of gods and birds it does popular and avant-garde. Creates and markets. In 2014 ZA/UM started Nihilist.fm ...

www.artstation.com

ZA/UM is a cultural movement uniting artists, writers, entrepreneurs and socialists, established 2009.

So that shoutout may as well have been real. This thread for once isn't better than Kotaku.

So there are three facts here:

A: ZA/UM is a developer who's employee's political direction tends to be socialism/communism.
B: Disco Elysium isn't skewed either way and goes after every political opinion. This doesn't mean the developers themselves have suddenly none. They do, but they are clearly able to poke fun at themselves.
C: Disco Elysium is still a fucking awesome game that deserves a buy and isn't SJW in the least.

 

[nemiroff]

-.-

Again, the developers themselves ARE socialists and they did shout out to Engels and Marx. That doesn't make them SJW's nor does it make them not what they are. They are just at the same time able to poke fun at their own ideology. (They went after every political direction as well).

But they are in fact self-described socialists before they even were game developers. For the thousandenst time I put the same quote out they wrote themselves for their artstation profile a few years ago:



So that shoutout may as well have been real. This thread for once isn't better than Kotaku.

So there are three facts here:

A: ZA/UM is a developer who's employee's political direction tends to be socialism/communism.
B: Disco Elysium isn't skewed either way and goes after every political opinion. This doesn't mean the developers themselves have suddenly none. They do, but they are clearly able to poke fun at themselves.
C: Disco Elysium is still a fucking awesome game that deserves a buy and isn't SJW in the least.

Got it. I guess I concluded too quick - AGAIN, lol. Thanks for the summary, appreciate it. I refunded the game already anyway, so I'll see what happens. With my massive backlog it was the best thing I could do either way.

 

[yeeeeeezy]

the neogaf of old would have applauded this and banned anyone critical. What happened?

 

[Bradamante3D]

A bunch of people get communists to voice characters in their game, give a shout to to marx and kotaku says to read The Communist Manifesto. What other impression am I supposed to get from this?

Well, what impression exactly do you get from this? That the commie invasion of 'merica is about to happen? That they have already warped the minds of our children? Are infiltrating "ma video games"?

Usually it's "just don't buy it" but here it's a problem?

 

[-Arcadia-]

the neogaf of old would have applauded this and banned anyone critical. What happened?

The circular firing squad closed until the site itself was fired upon. They left en masse, the site owner, who is actually a really good guy, decided to go in a brand new direction and rebuild, and this is the result of the last three years.

It’s a wonderful forum.

Occasionally, someone pokes the proverbial hornet’s nest too hard, like with this topic insulting their god, and all the cockroaches spill out of hiding, complete with personal insults, specious arguments, and slander, but without moderation specifically protecting them, they screech, get put in their place, and flame out.

 

[brian0057]

So, in that case, where can I download our game for free, comrade?

 

[michaelius]

So there are three facts here:

A: ZA/UM is a developer who's employee's political direction tends to be socialism/communism.
B: Disco Elysium isn't skewed either way and goes after every political opinion. This doesn't mean the developers themselves have suddenly none. They do, but they are clearly able to poke fun at themselves.
C: Disco Elysium is still a fucking awesome game that deserves a buy and isn't SJW in the least.

Hmm I have seen examples of dialogue on era and they clearly aren't equally critical of every option. While being communist isn't usual good it's typically least bad choice offered by game.

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

I can't wait for them to give a shoutout to Mao so we can have an American cultural revolution killing and starving 55% of the population. What a wonderful role model.

 

[Pumpkin Seeds]

The Manifesto set out the rules/ideas that lead to all the deaths. The anti-nation and anti-national identity parts in particular apply to the arguments used to oppress and starve the Ukrainians. People who say Marx and Engel have nothing to do with the atrocities are being willfully blind, but they are following in a politically left brained tradition of caring only about assumed intention of the subject and ignoring the outcome. When the outcome of their acts and ideas turn out to be awful, they blame someone else.

 

[Secesh]

Politics is politics. Vidya should be about vidya. What the hell is wrong with some people. This intersection of ALL THE THINGS with politics is so frikkin tiresome.

 

[Helios]

Hmm I have seen examples of dialogue on era and they clearly aren't equally critical of every option. While being communist isn't usual good it's typically least bad choice offered by game.

It's not. I'm not sure what cherry-picked screenshots you've seen on RE but there are NPCs in DE that speak well of communists and ones that don't. Just like in real life, I guess. It's unfortunate that many people in this thread clearly have not played the game yet they speak as they have just by seeing some screenshots.

 

[Come On Tars]

I'm sure they would have made this game without the whole money incentive.

 

[Keihart]

The circular firing squad closed until the site itself was fired upon. They left en masse, the site owner, who is actually a really good guy, decided to go in a brand new direction and rebuild, and this is the result of the last three years.

It’s a wonderful forum.

Occasionally, someone pokes the proverbial hornet’s nest too hard, like with this topic insulting their god, and all the cockroaches spill out of hiding, complete with personal insults, specious arguments, and slander, but without moderation specifically protecting them, they screech, get put in their place, and flame out.

I think you got it twisted, i bet lot of the posters don't have anything to defend about socialism and are only triggered by the typical Brap incendiary post. I know i am, because it sounds fucking stupid even as an opinion, so it's pretty inviting to call out how wrong OP is despite my political stance.

 

[-Arcadia-]

I think you got it twisted, i bet lot of the posters don't have anything to defend about socialism and are only triggered by the typical Brap incendiary post. I know i am, because it sounds fucking stupid even as an opinion, so it's pretty inviting to call out how wrong OP is despite my political stance.

Mm-hmm. Curious to know what the problem with the original post is.

Here’s the title:

Okay, everything factual and checks out. Added opinion of “cringe”, but unironically supporting Marxism is pretty fucking cringe.

Let’s look at the post:

Brap expresses incredulity that the developers would actually support communism, moving on to criticize listening to/including members of the Chapo Trap House podcast in the game.

Again, this is all factual and observable. The Game Awards are documented on countless YouTube videos, and the voice cast is similarly well documented.

Brap then goes on to harshly criticize Marxism/Communism, where we finally get a lengthy opinion, concluding with a joke that the developers should share profits.

Seems legitimate to me? Supporting those things is not popular, and for good reason. Likewise, he’s generally right about the typical racial/status make-up of Marxism supporters, and the joke hits the hypocrisy of how these people leech off an existing system to push their misguided beliefs.

So, what exactly is the problem?

What is so “fucking stupid”, “wrong”, and ”incendiary” here?

I can’t help but feel that your emotionally-charged language gives you away here, in contrast to the relatively normal, inoffensive post. Either the OP said something that rustled your jimmies to a pretty unprecedented level, or you have an axe to grind with the OP, from elsewhere, and can’t pick your battles.

Either way, it doesn’t reflect well on you.

 

[Komatsu]

Mm-hmm. Curious to know what the problem with the original post is.

Okay, everything factual and checks out. Added opinion of “cringe”, but unironically supporting Marxism is pretty fucking cringe. (1)

[,,,]

Brap expresses incredulity that the developers would actually support communism (2), moving on to criticize listening to/including members of the Chapo Trap House podcast in the game.

Again, this is all factual and observable.(3) The Game Awards are documented on countless YouTube videos, and the voice cast is similarly well documented.

Highlighted section (1) is entirely a value judgement on your part. (2) is baseless extrapolation - one can perfectly pay homage to Marx and Engels without necessarily defending whatever it is that guys call "Communism" as, I'm sorry to say, they're pretty mainstream thinkers being quoted in hundreds of PhDs dissertations as I type this and (3) is simply not true, given that there's nothing factual about the statement that political ideology X, Y or Z is "cringe". This is, again, entirely a value judgement on your part.

In fact, the OP specifically at one point analogizes that with "making a game about nazis so i can thank hitler in my acceptance speech."

If you don't think that comparing a mid-1840s German scholar who never so much as thew a rock through a window with a genocidal tyrant that exterminated close to 10 million people isn't incendiary... Not sure what I can say to you.

 

[Dr. Claus]

OK! So they don't actually support Marx or Engels, and were in fact criticizing them? Then this is a stupid thread. Really, I don't care enough about this game to do that kind of research

So you went into a thread about a game you didn't care about to state you weren't going to buy the game/support the developers based on trollish outrage without doing due diligence and basic research yourself?

Are you sure you didn't mistake this place for ResetEra?

I very much appreciate your clarification. I trusted "gaf reporting" and because I'm too busy these days and was skimming the story it didn't even register with me that it was Kotaku (what a shitshow..) that did the "translation" so-to-speak.

No problem.

Highlighted section (1) is entirely a value judgement on your part. (2) is baseless extrapolation - one can perfectly pay homage to Marx and Engels without necessarily defending whatever it is that guys call "Communism" as, I'm sorry to say, they're pretty mainstream thinkers being quoted in hundreds of PhDs dissertations as I type this and (3) is simply not true, given that there's nothing factual about the statement that political ideology X, Y or Z is "cringe". This is, again, entirely a value judgement on your part.

 

[-Arcadia-]

Highlighted section (1) is entirely a value judgement on your part.

Exactly. It is. I think you and your ideology are pretty cringe, down to crying in the ban thread when one of your ilk got torpedoed for slander. Problem?

(2) is baseless extrapolation - one can perfectly pay homage to Marx and Engels without necessarily defending whatever it is that guys call "Communism" as, I'm sorry to say, they're pretty mainstream thinkers being quoted in hundreds of PhDs dissertations as I type this

So, Marxism isn’t the widely documented foundation of the beliefs that have killed more people than the Holocaust? That’s some Galaxy Brain shit there, and I congratulate you on making that leap.

Likewise, ‘mainstream’ thinkers. Lol. Alright. I believe it, when it comes to Reset, and woke college campuses.

and (3) is simply not true, given that there's nothing factual about the statement that political ideology X, Y or Z is "cringe". This is, again, entirely a value judgement on your part.

Never said it was factual. I’d tell you to read properly, but I know that your type tend to do this on purpose.

In fact, the OP specifically at one point analogizes that with "making a game about nazis so i can thank hitler in my acceptance speech."

Not the post that was asked about, but that’s a good point.

If you don't think that comparing a mid-1840s German scholar who never so much as thew a rock through a window with a genocidal tyrant that exterminated close to 10 million people isn't incendiary... Not sure what I can say to you.

Only to people with worldviews based on a house of cards, and extreme cognitive dissonance.

 

[-Arcadia-]

Archae being a card-carrying Marxist?

 

[Komatsu]

Exactly. It is. I think you and your ideology are pretty cringe, down to crying in the ban thread when one of your ilk got torpedoed for slander. Problem?

Oooh, we're getting personal here. What makes you think I, or any other person in this thread for that matter, am a " Marxist" or that I have an "ideology" which is "pretty cringe"? Are we at the " you're ugly!" stage of debate or is this another (1) baseless and (2) irrelevant assumption?

Only to people with worldviews based on a house of cards, and extreme cognitive dissonance.

So comparing a scholar taught across the entire world, quoted in works covering labor theory of value to German Idealism with a genocidal tyrant makes perfect sense for people whose worldviews are... *checks notes* not based on a "house of cards" and which don't have "cognitive dissonance"? OK, got it. Thanks for playing.

 

[mango drank]

Ham sandwiches. Ham sandwiches everywhere.

 

[Keihart]

Mm-hmm. Curious to know what the problem with the original post is.

Here’s the title:

Okay, everything factual and checks out. Added opinion of “cringe”, but unironically supporting Marxism is pretty fucking cringe.

Let’s look at the post:

Brap expresses incredulity that the developers would actually support communism, moving on to criticize listening to/including members of the Chapo Trap House podcast in the game.

Again, this is all factual and observable. The Game Awards are documented on countless YouTube videos, and the voice cast is similarly well documented.

Brap then goes on to harshly criticize Marxism/Communism, where we finally get a lengthy opinion, concluding with a joke that the developers should share profits.

Seems legitimate to me? Supporting those things is not popular, and for good reason. Likewise, he’s generally right about the typical racial/status make-up of Marxism supporters, and the joke hits the hypocrisy of how these people leech off an existing system to push their misguided beliefs.

So, what exactly is the problem?

What is so “fucking stupid”, “wrong”, and ”incendiary” here?

I can’t help but feel that your emotionally-charged language gives you away here, in contrast to the relatively normal, inoffensive post. Either the OP said something that rustled your jimmies to a pretty unprecedented level, or you have an axe to grind with the OP, from elsewhere, and can’t pick your battles.

Either way, it doesn’t reflect well on you.

You must be kidding right? read the original OP again, there is the emotionally charged language that you are looking for. I might not align with the devs political stance, but OP is just throwing shit asking for a reaction, deliberately making fun of the devs and not just sharing the news in "a normal, inoffensive post".

 

[Xaero Gravity]

The circular firing squad closed until the site itself was fired upon. They left en masse, the site owner, who is actually a really good guy, decided to go in a brand new direction and rebuild, and this is the result of the last three years.

It’s a wonderful forum.

Occasionally, someone pokes the proverbial hornet’s nest too hard, like with this topic insulting their god, and all the cockroaches spill out of hiding, complete with personal insults, specious arguments, and slander, but without moderation specifically protecting them, they screech, get put in their place, and flame out.

ResetEra is way more welcoming than this place. They're like family to me.

 

[Sygma]

Hmm I have seen examples of dialogue on era and they clearly aren't equally critical of every option. While being communist isn't usual good it's typically least bad choice offered by game.

lol I hope you're joking, Kim shits on you for being anything but a moralist as a cop

That being said ...

Still managed to recruit him while being essentially

A good fascist


Hurray !

 

[Dr. Claus]

Archae being a card-carrying Marxist?

Not at all and you know that. So why the blatant mischaracterization of what was posted?

 

[-Arcadia-]

Not at all and you know that. So why the blatant mischaracterization of what was posted?

Frankly, I don’t find that I know much about you anymore.

It kind of seems like you spend a lot of time arguing against stuff like what we see on Reee... only to whip around and support it at weird times.

If you don’t want to be called a Marxist, a pretty reasonable request, maybe you shouldn’t hang around them, make their points, and cheerlead them with gifs?

 

[Komatsu]

Not at all and you know that. So why the blatant mischaracterization of what was posted?

Oh, no. You're *communist* now. The membership card (it's blood red) is coming in the mail.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Frankly, I don’t find that I know much about you anymore.

You don't know me at all. You never did. I think this is the second or third time you tried to insinuate you did previously and it is really creepy, mate.

It kind of seems like you spend a lot of time arguing against stuff like what we see on Reee... only to whip around and support it at weird times.

I don't support REE, nor have I shown anything in this thread that would suggest such. I have been actively fighting against ResetEra-like outrage mongering that your BFF Brap has posted here and in the past.

If you don’t want to be called a Marxist, a pretty reasonable request, maybe you shouldn’t hang around them, make their points, and cheerlead them with gifs?

The gif was in support to the clear dismantling of your post in the part that I had quoted. That is not supporting, "hanging around", or "cheer leading" Marxists. Your continued ignorance and blatant strawmanning is getting old, Arcadia. Maybe use the brain which you have been shown to have in other threads instead of defending the low effort outrage thread by your friend.

Oh, no. You're *communist* now. The membership card (it's blood red) is coming in the mail.

If I am a communist, then Bernie Sanders is the rebirth of Stalin himself.

 

[-Arcadia-]

You don't know me at all. You never did. I think this is the second or third time you tried to insinuate you did previously and it is really creepy, mate.

Okay, lol. That’s absolutely what I was saying.

I don't support REE, nor have I shown anything in this thread that would suggest such. I have been actively fighting against ResetEra-like outrage mongering that your BFF Brap has posted here and in the past.

Really? Because you have the damnest habit of going full reee, along with the other inmates. The Outer Worlds thread, where people were trying to talk to you logically, and get a sensible argument out of you, was a particularly interesting one.

Also, Brap is like Resetera. Both sides, amirite?

The gif was in support to the clear dismantling of your post in the part that I had quoted. That is not supporting, "hanging around", or "cheer leading" Marxists.

Mm-hmm.

Your continued ignorance and blatant strawmanning is getting old, Arcadia.

“Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it, to create confusion“

You sure do crib straight from the playbook.

Maybe use the brain which you have been shown to have in other threads instead of defending the low effort outrage thread by your friend.

Or maybe the same person is posting here, and it’s you that is the problem?

 

[Dr. Claus]

Really? Because you have the damnest habit of going full reee, along with the other inmates. The Outer Worlds thread, where people were trying to talk to you logically, and get a sensible argument out of you, was a particularly interesting one.

You mean the other low effort outrage thread created by your BFF? The one where you and others tried so desperately to assume there was some sort of conspiracy in the ugly female character models while ignoring both the male character models (which were just as ugly) and the long history of terrible character modeling the studio has done?

The very same one where you accused me of having an agenda because I didn't buy into that conspiracy theory and remained steadfast in my opinion that every model in the game was terribly done?

I was not "reeing" in that thread. I gave my opinion, one that you refused to accept and devolved into low effort insults (as you had also done when responding to Zefah and Geki-D in that thread) and accusations of hidden agendas.

Also, Brap is like Resetera. Both sides, amirite?

His penchant for low effort outrage threads is straight out of their playbook. As are a few in this thread that immediately jumped to it as gospel and took his word despite not playing the game, doing basic research into it, and immediately wrote of the game and its developers. Reminds me of the time Era did that with Persona 5, Catherine Full Body, Kingdom Come: Deliverance, etc.

“Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it, to create confusion“

You sure do crib straight from the playbook.

You have a tendency to project your own actions onto others like this. When you want to have an actual discussion I would love to join in. However, all you have done in this thread has made false accusations and blatant strawman arguments. Do better.

 

[Komatsu]

“Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it, to create confusion“

Says the person accusing the other side (whoever that is) of arguing "with personal insults, specious arguments, and slander ".

You know nothing about me or anyone else arguing against you but are way too quick to resort to labels ("marxist") and mischaracterize the other person's arguments.

But in the spirit of open and honest discussion, I will reiterate my point. Without insults, or any inference in regards to your character or political orientation.

Karl Marx was a German guy who wrote about a dozen books and then died. Some groups of people inspired by his ouvre did commit terrible crimes, from the Red Terror to sweeping Chernobyl under the rug. Other groups of people also inspired by his work created moderate, democratic political parties such as the SPD in Germany, PASOK in Greece, etc. etc. Marx wrote many things over many decades. In different moments of his life he advocated for revolution, parliamentary democracy, etc. etc. A lot of his work isn't even about (then) contemporary politics: he was also a journalist, wrote dozens of articles supporting Lincoln in the Civil War, etc. Marx has been mentioned in over 125,000 scholarly publications and every year, 4,000 papers, dissertations and theses list him as a reference, from more conservative institutions like BYU and the University of Budapest to actual communist institutions like the University of Havana. He's quoted in Ben Bernanke's Econ 101 tome, Mankiw's Introduction to Economics... He is, in fact, the very definition of a mainstream scholar. Even pop-econ books, like Naked Economics, talk about his ideas at length.

Hitler led a government which murdered millions.

You're free to argue that Marx is morally reprehensible (many people think so), but there is absolutely no way that you can compare him to Hitler.

Now, if the DE folks had said Vladimir Lenin's name or Che Guevara or, worse, Stalin, you and the OP would be absolutely correct in making the comparison. Both men ruled over people and had blood in their hands. Which is not the case here.

That's all. Other than that, do play Disco Elysium! It's pretty neat game and you can kill Commies if you want to.

 

[-Arcadia-]

My guess, Archae? Not Marxist.

Ego. I think you like being the big man, showing off how far above everyone else you are.

That inevitably throws you into the same poor argumentative tactics and stances, that are a cornerstone of Marxists, a your positions are not based on reality, discussion, or compromise, but lording it above others. It may also be that when things you like get involved, you lose perspective, which would be an interesting projection/reason why you keep bringing up my ‘BFF’.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Someone's bringing me up? What did I do?

 

[-Arcadia-]

You mean the other low effort outrage thread created by your BFF? The one where you and others tried so desperately to assume there was some sort of conspiracy in the ugly female character models while ignoring both the male character models (which were just as ugly) and the long history of terrible character modeling the studio has done?

The very same one where you accused me of having an agenda because I didn't buy into that conspiracy theory and remained steadfast in my opinion that every model in the game was terribly done?

I was not "reeing" in that thread. I gave my opinion, one that you refused to accept and devolved into low effort insults (as you had also done when responding to Zefah and Geki-D in that thread) and accusations of hidden agendas.

That’s certainly an interpretation. Remember when I showed you attractive male models from the game, and you continued to freak out? That’s why I wondered what exactly was going on with you. I was under the impression that you were an intelligent, reasonable poster.

Also, interesting bringing up the guy that just got banned for a month, for disingenuous arguing. Really got me there.

His penchant for low effort outrage threads is straight out of their playbook. As are a few in this thread that immediately jumped to it as gospel and took his word despite not playing the game, doing basic research into it, and immediately wrote of the game and its developers. Reminds me of the time Era did that with Persona 5, Catherine Full Body, Kingdom Come: Deliverance, etc.

It really isn’t. Looking at how your group reacted to the OP here, I would ascribe the blame for thread conflicts to massive overreactions from all of you, from the start.

You have a tendency to project your own actions onto others like this. When you want to have an actual discussion I would love to join in. However, all you have done in this thread has made false accusations and blatant strawman arguments. Do better.

Rich, from the man who interrupted an actual discussion, to post a no-effort gif, and continues to do the very things he’s describing.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Winnie the Pooh DLC when?

 

[-Arcadia-]

Komatsu, I left off, because I felt my point was well-stated.

However, let me give you an additional analogy, to drive it home. It’s your analogy to do with as you choose. If you want to accept it, cool, if you don’t, and immediately start reee’ing, well, I’m out anyway.

One person kills somebody in the street with a gun. Another convinces a person to kill somebody with a gun.

Are these figures so incredibly different? Is the amount of evil they put in the world any different?

This is the basis of the Hitler/Marx comparison people are drawing. This is the easy target all your educational attrition, no doubt impressive, is missing, and why it’s not working.

Moreover, drawing them even closer, Hitler also brought prosperity and good things to Germany too, as disgusting as he was - they had to like him for some reason, right?!

I am positive that Marx contributed some good to the world, doubly so as an educated man, and published scholar, because even in the darkest soul, nothing is ever truly pitch-black. That however, does not absolve him of his terribly, bloody legacy.

If somebody compares Marx to Hitler, my first impression isn’t to be outraged. My first impression is to get it and be sad that either of these men came to bear such a huge influence on this world. While I tried to write this in a neutral way, it extremely concerns me that yours is the former.

 

[brap]

His penchant for low effort outrage threads is straight out of their playbook.

Game dev did something retarded. Local internet man makes thread making fun of them. The End. How is that like retardera? Did I say I was boycotting them? Did I tell others not to buy their game?

 

[-Arcadia-]

Game dev did something retarded. Local internet man makes thread making fun of them. The End. How is that like retardera? Did I say I was boycotting them? Did I tell others not to buy their game?

You’re just like them.

Mmm, both sides. Mmm, faux-intellectual superiority.

 

[Dr. Claus]

That’s certainly an interpretation. Remember when I showed you attractive male models from the game, and you continued to freak out? That’s why I wondered what exactly was going on with you. I was under the impression that you were an intelligent, reasonable poster.

Also, interesting bringing up the guy that just got banned for a month, for disingenuous arguing. Really got me there.

I didn't "freak out". I had a different opinion than you and you went on a tirade about how I was on some sort of agenda. Do you have reading comprehension issues, Arcadia?

It really isn’t. Looking at how your group reacted to the OP here, I would ascribe the blame for thread conflicts to massive overreactions from all of you, from the start.

Your continued desperate attempts to assign me to some sort of "group" is laudable if it wasn't so laughable.

Rich, from the man who interrupted an actual discussion, to post a no-effort gif, and continues to do the very things he’s describing.

I didn't "interrupt" anything. The gif was nothing more than "I agree". Keep on projecting though, Arcadia. I am sure it will work out for you in the long run. However, I am done dealing with your blatant trolling. Have a good day.

Game dev did something retarded. Local internet man makes thread making fun of them. The End. How is that like retardera? Did I say I was boycotting them? Did I tell others not to buy their game?

Game Dev didn't do anything "retarded". Your continued attempts at trying to stoke faux outrage is.

 

[-Arcadia-]

Shine on, you crazy diamond.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Game Dev didn't do anything "retarded". Your continued attempts at trying to stoke faux outrage is.

You'd really be better off not responding to the dude. He basically just shitposts bitter and hateful garbage non-stop. The sheer negativity resonates with certain people, I guess.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Game dev did something retarded. Local internet man makes thread making fun of them. The End. How is that like retardera? Did I say I was boycotting them? Did I tell others not to buy their game?

Could we not?

 

[brap]

Game Dev didn't do anything "retarded". Your continued attempts at trying to stoke faux outrage is.

Giving a shoutout to Marx isn't retarded? Lmao ok. Continue with your little outrage fan fiction over there, Claus.

You'd really be better off not responding to the dude. He basically just shitposts bitter and hateful garbage non-stop. The sheer negativity resonates with certain people, I guess.

Fucking lmao. Better than the political garbage you shit all over the forum non stop.