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[RUMOR] Final Fantasy XIV is in Development for Playstation 5

Abriael_GN

RSI Employee of the Year
Seems really weird that among all the attendees at that event, only this person tweeted about this. I'll wait for an official confirmation from Square Enix (which I asked) before considering this more than a rumor.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Sounds pretty good, it's one game on the PS4 that's actually really well done in terms of cross play (PC version, Steam version, PS4 version) so hopefully they keep that bit around as well. You used to even be able to play with PS3 folks until they stopped releasing expansions.

I love the game to pieces but that monthly fee has got to go before I personally jump back in. Considering XI is still around and still has a monthly fee, I'm guessing I'll be dead before that happens.
 

Abriael_GN

RSI Employee of the Year
I love the game to pieces but that monthly fee has got to go before I personally jump back in. Considering XI is still around and still has a monthly fee, I'm guessing I'll be dead before that happens.

You're likely guessing right. And thankfully so. The last thing this game needs is free-to-play gimmicks. The monthly fee is pretty much literally the reason why this continues to be the best MMORPG on the market.

When you think the game started on PS3. It’s been through the whole generation.

It started on PC.
 
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dottme

Member
You're likely guessing right. And thankfully so. The last thing this game needs is free-to-play gimmicks. The monthly fee is pretty much literally the reason why this continues to be the best MMORPG on the market.



It started on PC.
Sorry. Console payer here. 😑
 

SAMZ

Member
Very good mmo, will triple dip on ps5. As a console player one of the few games i'm ok with having cross play on. Shame about pc players having access to 3rd party crutches while console does not. But doesn't really matter too much as pve and good story is where it's at. If it was cross play pvp i'd be mad.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
You're likely guessing right. And thankfully so. The last thing this game needs is free-to-play gimmicks. The monthly fee is pretty much literally the reason why this continues to be the best MMORPG on the market.
You're absolutely right and obviously people are paying the fee so there isn't a good reason for them not to. It's just difficult for me to personally justify and again (personally) ruins a lot of the game's fun because it turns it into a "I have to play this game instead of something else, because I'm paying the monthly fee". It feels like work. That's just the way my brain is wired, I suppose.

That new expansion looks dope though, unfortunately I just can't bring myself to buy because of the above reasons.
 

Bigrx1

Banned
I'm okay with being in the minority if so - but it personally really bugged me that with Shadowbringers they still didn't have any more voice acting beyond the MSQ. I was hoping at least new class quests would be and the Nier raid also. I mean other mmo's like SWTOR and ESO fully voices their games, not sure why FFXIV can't at least add a BIT more than the MSQ.
 

Bigrx1

Banned
You're likely guessing right. And thankfully so. The last thing this game needs is free-to-play gimmicks. The monthly fee is pretty much literally the reason why this continues to be the best MMORPG on the market.

Not sure your point here, FFXIV has a monthly sub PLUS a F2P cash shop filled with expensive outfits, mounts, etc. Sub fees used to exist in order for shops like that to not have to exist and for you to be able to get literally everything via in-game means.
 

YukiOnna

Member
I'm guessing PS5 ver and 6.0 is also when they'll bring in the next visual update. It kind of needs it since while it looks nice, they definitely can do even more given they've improved a lot of other technical areas and such in their work since 4.x.
 

Abriael_GN

RSI Employee of the Year
Not sure your point here, FFXIV has a monthly sub PLUS a F2P cash shop filled with expensive outfits, mounts, etc. Sub fees used to exist in order for shops like that to not have to exist and for you to be able to get literally everything via in-game means.

The cash shop is not even close to what you'd have in a free to play game. It's literally just cosmetics and convenience stuff that you can absolutely ignore. It's literally the same as the other big P2P game out there, WoW. You're comparing literally apples to escalators.

Actual free to play games have MUCH more invasive cash shops, and one of the reasons why FFXIV is great is exactly because it does not have all that crap.
 
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Bigrx1

Banned
The cash shop is not even close to what you'd have in a free to play game. It's literally just cosmetics and convenience stuff that you can absolutely ignore.

Subs in an mmo used to get you all of that - literally all of it, every single thing available to have in the game. So don't use the fact that FFXIV has a sub as an argument for why it's great when the sub does not get you everything. FFXIV is sub + cash shop with cosmetics PLUS insta max level boosts.
 
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Vawn

Banned
I love the game to pieces but that monthly fee has got to go before I personally jump back in. Considering XI is still around and still has a monthly fee, I'm guessing I'll be dead before that happens.

Thankfully, it does have that fee. The game would not be what it is otherwise. And it's one of the best RPGs ever made.
 

Abriael_GN

RSI Employee of the Year
Subs in an mmo used to get you all of that - literally all of it,

Purchasing a game also used to get you all of that, and today you have a million DLC. Times have changed. You're behind the times by at least half a decade.

So don't use the fact that FFXIV has a sub as an argument for why it's great when the sub does not get you everything. FFXIV is sub + cash shop with cosmetics PLUS insta max level boosts.

One, I'll use whatever fact suits me. Two, again, the cash shop you mention has absolutely nothing to do with the cash shop and microtransactions you get in free to play games. If you don't understand the difference, you haven't played either.

Why is this becoming a f2p vs paid subscription debate...

Likely because the topic at hand has literally no relevant information besides a single tweet from an unverified source. A bit limited for a full-blown discussion.
 
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YukiOnna

Member
I'm perfectly fine committing a monthly fee to XIV. Not solely because I think it's different because of that, but the content I get from it on a daily basis justifies my decision of the monthly purchase.

This isn't the thread for the discussion though.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
The cash shop is not even close to what you'd have in a free to play game. It's literally just cosmetics and convenience stuff that you can absolutely ignore. It's literally the same as the other big P2P game out there, WoW. You're comparing literally apples to escalators.

Actual free to play games have MUCH more invasive cash shops, and one of the reasons why FFXIV is great is exactly because it does not have all that crap.
The only counter-argument I could make to this is The Elder Scrolls Online. It's not free to play, but it eschews the monthly subscription fee model meaning you buy the base game + expansions and can optionally support the game with their microtransaction shop. The cash shop is like Final Fantasy XIV's: mostly cosmetic items and convenience stuff that's easy to ignore unless you're a crazy person. They have an (optional) subscription fee that gives you access to all of the game's expansions as well as a monthly stipend of microtransaction currency, if that's your thing.

The "buy once, play whenever you'd like" nature of the game definitely appeals to me much more. But I'll also admit that Final Fantasy XIV is the better game.

Also just ignore me, I'm literally just yelling at the clouds here.

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Didn't mean to derail - now back to your regularly scheduled hype
 

Abriael_GN

RSI Employee of the Year
The only counter-argument I could make to this is The Elder Scrolls Online. It's not free to play, but it eschews the monthly subscription fee model meaning you buy the base game + expansions and can optionally support the game with their microtransaction shop. The cash shop is like Final Fantasy XIV's: mostly cosmetic items and convenience stuff that's easy to ignore unless you're a crazy person. They have an (optional) subscription fee that gives you access to all of the game's expansions as well as a monthly stipend of microtransaction currency, if that's your thing.

Sure, but there's a reason why Shadowbringers is considered by many one of the best expansions of all time, and literally no one would dare to say the same about any content ESO gets.

Sales provided by a P2P model is on a completely other level compared to any other model, and sales translate into budget.
 
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Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
Doesn't surprise me. Hell it'll more than likely be on the next Xbox as well. I know brap brap would kill for a Switch version, because it's perfect for the Switch, but I don't see that one happening.
 

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
I don't think so. For some reason, Microsoft isn't playing ball with SE, or else it would be on Xbox One/X as well. They said something about it semi-recently.
 

Vawn

Banned
Doesn't surprise me. Hell it'll more than likely be on the next Xbox as well. I know brap brap would kill for a Switch version, because it's perfect for the Switch, but I don't see that one happening.

I played it on PS3 and it wasn't pleasant (I started on PC before that). I don't forsee a Switch version being much better.
 

Celcius

°Temp. member
It's exciting to hear about devs having PS5 dev kits and at work on games. I'm really interested to see if this will be running at native 4K 60fps and max settings. (I would expect so)
 
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ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I though XIV was a type
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
I thought it was 16

Then i realized it was 14

Now i lost interest

Sorry but i dont have much time for MMO game now...
 

PeacefulWorldGuy

Neo Member
Predictable but please stop it we need a new ip for next gen SE instead milking this one.

I thought it was 16

Then i realized it was 14

Now i lost interest

Sorry but i dont have much time for MMO game now...
Hm? FFXVI for next gen is not rumor but that project already in development. Source? Doesn't need a source for this one, because SE is not SE if FF franchise skip 1 generation.
 

mcz117chief

Member
Sorry but i dont have much time for MMO game now...
I don't see how modern MMOs are any more time consuming than modern RPGs. Final Fantasy XV, Witcher 3 and others are basically solo MMOs which take dozens of hours to finish just like the main quest lines in most MMOs.
 
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Sounds pretty good, it's one game on the PS4 that's actually really well done in terms of cross play (PC version, Steam version, PS4 version) so hopefully they keep that bit around as well. You used to even be able to play with PS3 folks until they stopped releasing expansions.

I love the game to pieces but that monthly fee has got to go before I personally jump back in. Considering XI is still around and still has a monthly fee, I'm guessing I'll be dead before that happens.
I strongly disagree. The fact it has a monthly membership fee is what helps keep this game alive. Free to play games just don’t work out. Even ESO has a membership that they’ve made it pretty clear they really want you on it.
 

royox

Member
I love the game to pieces but that monthly fee has got to go before I personally jump back in. Considering XI is still around and still has a monthly fee, I'm guessing I'll be dead before that happens.

YoshiP himself said that the game is build in the way that normal players pay 1-2 months, do all the content they want and unsub till the next big content/patch/expansion. For 11$ you get +100 hours of "gaming", i think it's a good deal.

Sorry but i dont have much time for MMO game now...

It takes more time to finish games like Skyrim, The Witcher 3 and similars than each FFXIV expansion if you play them as Single Player games. Shadowbringers was like 50 hours of pure FF magic and storytelling and can be played 99,9999% solo.
 
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