ROMhack
Member
Agree with this. Hardcore to me is having an interest in a huge range of games, both new and old.
Last edited:
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Sony Positions Next PlayStation for Hard-Core Gamers.
- Thread starter IbizaPocholo
- Start date
Agree with this. Hardcore to me is having an interest in a huge range of games, both new and old.
Chozofication_
Banned
It's a possibility but considering how cheap ssd storage is, and will be I sort of doubt they'll use a hybrid approach.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
It's not a possibility, it's an assurance. M.2 storage is not cheap by any means and with the transfer rates they're talking it's going to be some the fastest available storage on the market so its size will be extremely limited.
The only way it can financially work is as a variation of how myself and the other poster described. Also these SSD's will be onboard storage, they will not be removable or replaceable hardware. Sony has already talked about proprietary technology in regards to their drive so it will be a fixed device, it has to be, it's the only way the system can work.
Last edited:
Bolivar687
Banned
Thank you so much Sony!! 
It doesn't mean anything from them really. Anyone who spends money on their shit is hardcore to them.
Hudo
Member
Agreed. I strongly assume that their definition of "hard core" are actually people who mainly play Call of Duty, FIFA and the like. Which, from this forum's perspective, is what could be considered the "casual"/non-niche audience.
DigitalScrap
Member
Yeah, it seems like what we used to call "hardcore" and what is now considered hardcore are two very different things.
S
SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Yes, problem?
Chozofication_
Banned
We'll see dude
Silent Viper
Banned
What they mean by Hardcore?
Does that mean hardcore HLA in Tlou 2 between Elie and that chick?
What type of hardcore stuff we talking about?
Does that mean hardcore HLA in Tlou 2 between Elie and that chick?
What type of hardcore stuff we talking about?
Komatsu
Member
This is not true at all. At all. Most firms peddling marketing analysis of the industry (NPD, etc.) have stated that the X has been performing really well - apparently XB sales doubled since 2017.
That's a really strong indicator that there's been a shift in expectations and that a $500 PS5 would not be a deal-breaker.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
She is definitely an attractive woman, just not displaying it clearly, I'd say some titstreamers will cosplay her with only the portions of the metal armor hiding the sensitive parts.
Yet, they will complain about being "objectified"... I can objectify this character with her whole armor on if I want to, and I don't care for sex workers pretending to cosplay.
The point wasn’t about how attractive a woman is, that was just someone deflecting.
The point is Xbox is not above pandering to the SJW club by converting its biggest bro franchise into a girlstoo™ one.
Burrito Bandito
Banned
i dont see why this is news. both MS and Sony are “positioning” themselves for “hardcore” gamers and it doesnt prove which console is strong as some are suggesting. we already knew Sony and MS were not making a Fortnite box
spandexmonkey
Banned
Hard core gamers like their games supervised by mom with all the naughty bits removed. Also mom keeps them safe from mean people who say bad words and only lets mom approved movies and games for them to see.
You know, hard core shit.
You know, hard core shit.
The Pleasure
Member
Nah. Just question your taste in both games and burgers.
greenpower22
Member
For me Sony is losing me as a costumer with the change of focus from Japanese games both first party and third party. Their first party output was really pathetic this gen. ZERO first party jrpgs and 0 intresting games for Sony Japan Studios (except for a couple VR games). Then they are losing Japanese support to the Switch thanks to their internal cencorship that affects mostlly them than the westerner studios. Right now Sony thinks that the hardcore gamers only care for AAA cinematic 3rd Person Shooter/Action/Adventure and PSVR games. And while I like those games too it has becoming very samey outpout. The spark is lost. Sony use to have games in all genres like racing but they shelved ips like Motorstorm or Wipeout(only a port).
So it's a wait and see game for me....
So it's a wait and see game for me....
HeresJohnny
Member
Well th numbers I’ve seen show Xbox sales are down like 40 percent year over year so....
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Bloodborne, TLG, and Gravity Rush 2 Were amongst the titles Japan Studios produced... Astrobot, albeit VR, is a quite powerful statement on how good platformers can be in VR too, but fair they had some problems transitioning from PS3 to PS4...
Last edited:
ShaneDH
Neo Member
Woah there, I was with ye up until you said VR gimmicks. VR is definitely not a gimmick my friend.
Aidah
Member
What's Sony's definition of "hardcore gamer"? The article points out that they plan to focus primarily on "relationships" with big publishers and on making few but high budget 1st party games. Not sure how that translates to "hardcore gamers".
Also, there's that arrogant bit about smaller publishers 'would still want to release on our platform even if we don't show them much support, because we're too big'.
Also, there's that arrogant bit about smaller publishers 'would still want to release on our platform even if we don't show them much support, because we're too big'.
S
SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
The Pleasure
Member
There was no panties or moe in them so they aren't truly from glorious nippon
The Pleasure
Member
Last edited:
S
SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
It's funny because you have a KoF15 avatar. A game that looks worse than a Nep game.
Go back to the vita nep nep.
The Pleasure
Member
It's kof 14 not 15. And if you open the kof models in a viewer they're actually good. Plus I'm actually playing a game. Hate on snk heroines.
S
SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
I lost count after 11. Hell I have the game and I forget what number it is. It is that memorable.
lol
That shit doesn't even deserve to be talked about.
DigitalScrap
Member
Go back to the vita nep nep.
Hey now, Nep Nep is on the Switch now too where she is comfortable. Lol I actually just started playing the new Super Neptunia 2D RPG last night coincidentally.
Elcid
Banned
Stuart360
Member
Hopefully, the less weeb shit the better.
The Pleasure
Member
Pity game is actually good. Unlike most japanese rpgs. Every time i hear someone say they play them for the story i laugh.
And snk heroines is stupid fun. I own a physical copy.
Bryank75
Banned
I heard Xbox is getting 128GB, good thing about that is you'll never fill it with Xbox exclusives worth a playthrough.
Bryank75
Banned
Okay, cool. Good luck trying to find anything like that anywhere else. Ha
Aranea
Member
I will probably end up getting the PS5. That said none of the first party tittles from Sony really interest me. The latest "first party title" game i bough for the PlayStation 4 was Detroit: Become Human and that game is no longer a Sony exclusive. I'm looking forward Nioh 2, FF VII Remake and Granblue Fantasy: Relink, all of which are gonna end up being timed exclusive.
Bryank75
Banned
On the other hand when PlayStation utterly destroys the competition, it will be so funny to watch the reactions..... their utter despair and excuses.
Isa
Member
Well said. I'm in the same boat really. They're going to have to really show me why I need the new system with compelling games and features, but I'm not feeling the love right now. And unfortunately for my girl and I VR is out of the question as I get uneasy after a while and she can't use VR at all as she get's sick. I'd much rather have seen the money and effort put into PS4 exclusives that she and I want and can play. Its like a repeat of Kinect last gen. I'm burnt out on most Sony first party titles and I miss the variety. I'm okay waiting this time, as PC and Switch have me covered. I'm actually leaning towards the nextbox though for a next-gen launch system. I miss the previous Sony leadership as well.
MagnesG
Banned
That was never exclusive to Sony,
greenpower22
Member
Bloodborne is amazing, so is Gravity Rush 2. But GR2 was sent without promotion to end the franchise with an early server closure too. TLG was ok but already played several times with the ps3 remaster. If you compare the outpout vs past generations you can see how weak it is. There are ZERO first party JRPGS. Let that sink in.
Also rembemer 2-3 years ago some PS leakers saying that Sony had in the pipeline 3-4 JRPGS and one of them were to rivel the Final Fantasy franchise. Maybe false leaks???? However you can totaly see Sony change during PS4.
As I said at my first post I am seeing Switch getting lots of Japanese support and jrpgs. Many of them were at Vita and 3DS and the Switch is the natural evolution of that. If Sony continues the samy way with censorship we will see how this goes in the next few years.
I will totally wait and see PS5 reveal and support.
MagnesG
Banned
Whynotboth.gif
Damn the prejudice is hard. It's like those players are murderers and rape people.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Fair... but I was not talking about SotC, but the PS4 only The Last Guardian. GR2 should have gotten more marketing, but the production values and the whole game in and of itself were great.
Last edited:
greenpower22
Member
Yeah you are right about the Last Guardian. Got it mixed up for a sec.
sublimit
Banned
There will come a time,maybe 5 or 10 years from now that you'll also realize that it is. Maybe a very impressive one (for some people like you) but still a gimmick nonetheless.
Cenkolino85
Neo Member
For the first 24 months of its lifecycle, this is the winning strategy Sony needs to make. The core gamers are the ones who buy games and subscriptions. No the guy who buys a Playstation to play Fifa and GTA exclusively.
Last edited:
Angry_Megalodon
Member
The definition of gimmick does not match what VR is so you are factually wrong. In fact, it is the way to play since it has better controls and better immersion. Playing through a window (a TV) is a gimmick, in comparison. It's like comparing playing on mobile to playing traditional games. Galaxies apart.
As for Sony's statement, I don't see the difficulty to understand what they mean, and these are good news. Hardcore games are SP AAA games, the way they have been doing all this gen and they are doubling down on that. No services, no GaaS and no bullshit. Games like TLOU. Dark Souls, Cyberpunk, Zelda, Halo,... those are hardcore games.
Impossible to extract something negative out of this.
Jubenhimer
Member
"Hardcore" is one of those vague buzzwords marketing committies and out-of-touch journalists adopted to hype up the next AAA game and gatekeep other players into closed echochambers.
Isa
Member
I don't like to game on my pc much, save for more exclusive content. Also my missus loathes trying to use a computer, she's a console and handheld gamer. So when she gets the urge to play a newer release its got to be either PS4 or Xbox for her. I also enjoy it, and absolute power is not our main interest. Few games actually utilize the hardware to the full extent anyway. I can accept a decent console version. And frankly I like that my accessories will be compatible with the next Xbox. I also like the diversity in MS's portfolio going forward. I might eventually get a PS5 but most likely how I got the PS3, later on discount with a better library. We've been buying most of our Jrpgs and such on Switch lately anyway to avoid the censorship. We just don't trust Sony right now. I also doubt that my gal and I are the hardcore audience that Sony is focusing on sadly.