He's also seemed to carved out a nice niche doing speaking engagements and directing several episodes of Arrowverse series a year.
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Kevin Smith is donating all future residuals of his Miramax films to charity
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He's also seemed to carved out a nice niche doing speaking engagements and directing several episodes of Arrowverse series a year.
There has to come a point when these entertainment moguls make so much money that you can barely manage it or even spend it. I remember seeing some Britney Spears financials that said she was making at one point $750000 a month. This was during her crazy phase wear she wasnt performing or putting out albums.
Most banks wont even ensure 50% of that. If you ate steak and lobster every day it still wouldnt make a dent in that. You could buy multiple Teslas a month and still have plenty left over. Residuals can be absolutely absurd.
Not to say this dude is as rich as that, but I dont doubt he is in a position where he probably just doesnt need any more money
Most banks wont even ensure 50% of that. If you ate steak and lobster every day it still wouldnt make a dent in that. You could buy multiple Teslas a month and still have plenty left over. Residuals can be absolutely absurd.
Not to say this dude is as rich as that, but I dont doubt he is in a position where he probably just doesnt need any more money
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Cheating on someone is obviously unethical and shitty, but it's worlds away from sexually abusing someone or raping someone. I wouldn't begrudge Kevin working with someone who he thought was a cheater and had a weakness for casting cute actresses. Those are both shitty, but not the end of the world. Finding out that Weinstein was a rapist and a serial sexual abuser is quite different than realizing he's not a good guy.
Baraka Obama
Banned
Lol that didnt take long
The who knew what deal has real potential to become a witch hunt. The blanket assumption that everyone who ever worked with him knew everything is obviously not correct, and forcing it on everyone is unfair and, worse, counterproductive.
Some people knew and did nothing. Lets see, based on evidence and testimonies and other data, who they were. If someone says they didnt know and we dont have any of that to suggest theyre lying...lets not try to make them prove a negative.
Some people knew and did nothing. Lets see, based on evidence and testimonies and other data, who they were. If someone says they didnt know and we dont have any of that to suggest theyre lying...lets not try to make them prove a negative.
whitemex88
Member
Those Miramax Fucks
The other side of this is: is it possible to have known, and do nothing, but still be partially justified because of the fear of the fallout of your revealing it? Like, in Smith's case, he would actually stand to lose a lot if he turned on his boss (and had nothing but Hollywood rumors to back up his statements). Should we assume that just because some people who *might* know something aren't talking because of spurious reasons? Like, they are somehow just okay with Harvey Weinstein being a serial sexual abuser?
One of the reasons this story needed to be revealed the way it was is because all of these other people who knew were inside the very system where these abusers literally run the show. It's something to consider. Also, we must not forget that Harvey may be a big one, but there has to be more where that comes from. These people are going to be even more careful in protecting themselves now.
More on topic: I think this is the right response from Kevin. Nobody can peer into his mind and extract what he knew, or what his situation was if he did know, but this is the response you want to see. Anything which creates more visibility to the issue, and doesn't hamper the progress with regards to showing that the industry should not support these people in high places is what you want to see.
Fancyarcher
Member
Good on Smith. Of course users are going to trash him in this thread. People always base their opinion of how a director is, on the type of films they make. Not on what they do, and whether you like Smith or not, he's clearly a good person.
Besides, even if Smith knew Weinstein's allegations to a point, I don't think there was much he could do. Weinstein had way too much power.
Besides, even if Smith knew Weinstein's allegations to a point, I don't think there was much he could do. Weinstein had way too much power.
Haha, totally read that in Jay's voice.
i'm sure Kevin Smith is a paragon of virtue concerning women
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ou2mVnElp6c
But nice on him to donate and make amends
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ou2mVnElp6c
But nice on him to donate and make amends
FrontalMonk
Banned
I didn't until you said this, now I can't *not* read it in Jay's voice.
Count Dookkake
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smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Good shit. Wonder if anything happens to the rights to Clerks after all of this because I do not think he owns it.
Oh I laughed too but that was petty of him and prety tasteless (the manboobs part killed me). But let's not act like this came "for the lulz" and not because of how women are viewed as tools to hurt others (sisters and mothers you "fuck" to humiliate someone).
What I mean is, self reflection and amends should come from within and not solely on the back of the current sex scandal (and the male gaze is very very present in many of his movies).
Again it's great he is donating
Cheating on your wife is shitty behavior, but I think most people would consider it not their business to publicly blow up someone for cheating on their wife.
Its absolutely complicated for a lot of reasons and deserves to be seen that way if were serious about addressing it. Unfortunately oversimplification is the first impulse of many and its absolutely the wrong reaction.
He mentions that specifically.
Dafuq are you smoking? Some dude comes up and publically insults someones life work, he responds in a very classy way and then gives him some light ribbing with a culturally understood insult. That is not viewing as tools, that's insulting that guy by insinuating that he was going to do some work after he finished ploughing his mom.
Your insinuation is an overly reaching view of someone being a misogynist, and does nothing to help anyone. Male gaze? In smith films? All the women in his film are not only equal in agency and import, they are normally the characters driving things forward. smdh
You have to be joking when you equate classy with his dick coming out of the mother's ass.
It's neither classy nor original and the guy's question was legitimate (his last few films were rather on the "why does it suck" end) and asked in the same manner Kevin Smith usually talks/does presentations (his Wild Wide West.Giant mechanical Spider scene is epic).
He was just too much of a pussy to take what he usually gives and resorted to a "I fucked your mum up the ass" joke.
Scarecrow
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RoninChaos
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Christ, you guys are fucking unreasonable as fuck. What smith is doing is more than a lot of other people. He's putting his money where his mouth is.
He also helped start an organization that helps stop human trafficking. But no, he's just an ass like GAF says.
He also helped start an organization that helps stop human trafficking. But no, he's just an ass like GAF says.
ReplacementPelican
Member
I think your standards are way too high here.
I mean, the man is giving away a lot of money made with the help of a man who he's just found out is deplorable to charities that will do right by victims of said person.
He's doing a great thing and you didn't open with 'he's doing a great thing but...' you opened with a sarcastic 'I'm sure he's a paragon of virtue' and the fair dos was paid largely as an amendment. Especially when Smith isn't even trying to present himself this way, he's just trying to do right by the victims of someone his film is connected to.
bossmonkey
Member
Are you the guy in the video? That's the only reason I can think of for you being so mad about it.
chrisPjelly
Member
Good on him. I don't know why people were so quick to suspect him. No offense to Kevin Smith, and not to make this sound like a backhanded compliment, but he kinda comes across as too much of a goofy idiot to entrust reaally dark secrets too. Hope that's really the case.
B_Spooky13
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Soooooo a comedian rips a heckler a new one. Breaking News.
I really don't think what he said was bad or even misogynistic.
Good on Kevin though. I do think he has a gentle heart and probably didn't know.
Apocryphon
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Piss off.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
This is nice of him bit there's absolutely no way he didn't know what was going on.
dl77
Member
Gotta love GAF sometimes.
Man says he is unaware of someone's actions yet does something positive he doesn't have to to try and support victims.
How to view those actions:
1) - "Wow, that's actually really good of him. I don't have any proof or reason to disbelieve him so I think it's great that not only has he set up a foundation against child sex trafficking but he's also actually trying to do something to support people affected by these recent allegations."
2) - "He fuckin' knew about it all and it's just money to ease his conscience, fuck that guy. Also, his films are all shit"
Man says he is unaware of someone's actions yet does something positive he doesn't have to to try and support victims.
How to view those actions:
1) - "Wow, that's actually really good of him. I don't have any proof or reason to disbelieve him so I think it's great that not only has he set up a foundation against child sex trafficking but he's also actually trying to do something to support people affected by these recent allegations."
2) - "He fuckin' knew about it all and it's just money to ease his conscience, fuck that guy. Also, his films are all shit"
Morrigan Stark
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He worked with Harvey, and he hasn't made a film for him since 2011. It's not like the two were roommates or shared a cubicle.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
I mean, I knew about it and I don't work with him nor am I even in the movie industry. I find it hard to believe that someone who made 8 movies with him didn't know. He's been doing it at least since the 80s so it doesn't really matter that they haven't made a movie together since 2011.
So you already knew about all of this? Every bit of it? Or you heard vague rumors about being creepy or hitting on young stars?
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I knew he made young actresses have sex with him in exchange for roles. It's been all over the place for years. Howard Stern even directly asked him about it a few years ago (he denied it of course).
Hindsight is turning rumors into knowledge.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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They weren't rumors
Vincent Alexander
Member
Is there proof or something? (Genuine question. Never heard this stuff before)
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
I swear, its like some of you get paid for assigning nefarious motives to everything. Maybe Smith knew, maybe he didn't. I don't know. I'll take this at face value as a good thing. If it comes out that he's lying, I'll reserve my outrage until then.
Tackleberry
Member
Really?
The guy has a killer career doing exactly what he wants.
TV show on AMC
Touring podcasts and speaking engagements that sell out in a heart beat
TV director for Supergirl (when he feels like it)
Still makes movies, just the ones he wants to do.
If that's not a career, then I don't know what is.
Insisting on oversimplifying complex issues like this is dangerous. It hurts efforts to address the problem.
So do we need to go down every list of actor, director, co-producer, photographer, editor and sound engineer too that worked with him? I'm sure they all heard things too and it's a long ass list.
People wear masks and rumors, stories and "open secrets" don't reveal the insidiousness or help end the trauma until there's a movement and more speak out. If finally happened and reached the point with Weinstein and more are going to come down the pike.
Smith put it out there, he was emotional talking about it. I'd say utterly sincere which is more than I can say for those that have been commenting on it, and on top of that he did this gesture to empower women more in the industry. Your comments are a "bitch eating crackers" scenario if I've ever seen one.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
He was publicly accused of it by at least one woman before all of this came out. That makes it more than a rumor to me.
Kevin Smith acting like he knew nothing is oversimplifying a complex issue. It gets a whole lot more complex when you start thinking about all the young actorsses that have appeared in Kevin Smith movies produced by Weinstein. At least one of them has already come out and said she had to escape from him FIVE times.
Acting like. Stop it. You have no idea at all what he did or didnt know, what he heard, what he saw or anything about it.
Yeah, way too many assumptions here that he MUST have known! C'mon, people. So when for example the press interviews the family of a murderer and each of them say they had no idea the murderer had it in him/her, they're all lying right? Every single one of them. Because I mean, that's family and all. They MUST have known! As stated earlier in the thread, hearing rumors in an industry were gossip outlets are constantly making stories up, I can see where it could be difficult to be absolutely certain something is legit. If it were that easy, Weinstein would've been caught years ago. So this isn't on Kevin Smith and him knowing something is fact supposedly. Good for him for actually doing something for a good cause. He would be getting little backlash if he had done nothing. He certainly doesn't deserve any for doing something good.