Finale Fireworker
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Those darn lefties, always hating on radical religious separatists and fanatical zealotry. When did everything get so PC??
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Those darn lefties, always hating on radical religious separatists and fanatical zealotry. When did everything get so PC??
Psychoward
Banned
Yeah there should be more shooters about militant Islam cults, don't have enough of those.
Or people could enjoy the concept outside of current world politics? Gun-toting religious zealots from a small town in America is a great fucking concept and genuinely scary. Plus you don't commonly see the setting in video games.
Basketball
Member
Ubisoft is a French company, in France
Psychoward
Banned
It was a joke because there are plenty of shooters with radical militant Muslims as the antagonists.
Psychoward
Banned
In a few years (months?) the Overton window in America is gonna be so far to the right that the new Wolfenstein game is gonna be seen as liberal pandering by letting you shoot space nazis.
yanipheonu
Member
See, now you're selling me on it lol
BobNewbert31
Member
I hope they let you steal that guy's wolf.
veloxStrix
Banned
Which ones are those recently? I know that's going to come off as a "defend your statement" post, but - despite me playing shooters more than any other game and fairly competitively - I tend to stick to one or two FPS for a pretty long time so I don't play much but the 1% of them.
Psychoward
Banned
Pretty much every military shooter of Gen 7.
Or the Russians, which funnily enough would be seen as more liberal pandering now.
Recently though idk, not as many modern shooters you're right.
Could have meant taking place after a modern-day civil war between left/right, but I'm not sure.
Bruh...
So many ways they could go with it.
These pics have me excited!
Crazy how we got here.
Dyson Industries
Banned
Triggered, snowflake?
Sean Hannity posts on GAF?
The Scollard
Member
Looks cool. Far Cry 3 & 4 were both pretty fun games. I will say that Jason was a better protagonist than Ajay. He had a clear arc where he turned from a naive college student to a ruthless bloodthirsty murderer over the course of the game. Ajay didn't really have any arc like that, though I did appreciate how they handled the Golden Path/Pagan Min conflict.
Also, I think people are really overestimate how controversial this game is going to be. This seems more like weird Evangelical Redneck cult than what people are thinking, Jim Jones or Children of God level. I don't think people will be up in arms about that; it's like putting the not-WBC in Kingsman (most of the people I saw complaining about the scene were less complaining about the religious nuts being killed than they were about the violence happening in a church). It's fairly easy target that's been done before in other media and even video games (Resident Evil 7 had the Bakers, and you could argue that Las Plagas and the Ganados in RE4 were similar, but in rural Spain instead of the USA. Also, True Detective and in film, Straw Dogs).
Anyway, looks interesting.
Also, I think people are really overestimate how controversial this game is going to be. This seems more like weird Evangelical Redneck cult than what people are thinking, Jim Jones or Children of God level. I don't think people will be up in arms about that; it's like putting the not-WBC in Kingsman (most of the people I saw complaining about the scene were less complaining about the religious nuts being killed than they were about the violence happening in a church). It's fairly easy target that's been done before in other media and even video games (Resident Evil 7 had the Bakers, and you could argue that Las Plagas and the Ganados in RE4 were similar, but in rural Spain instead of the USA. Also, True Detective and in film, Straw Dogs).
Anyway, looks interesting.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Most of late gen6 and early gen 7 was Russians or Muslim terrorists. Or both like Call of Duty 4, which opens with the player characters being executed by an extremist.
There's also the Medal of Honor reboot games, Insurgency, Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon...
Hell, how about just Counter Strike alone?
Greigor The Fellhand
Member
So will towers in this be Finding the hidden bug out shelters?
veloxStrix
Banned
Ah. I guess I missed them. None of the CoD games had you fighting Islamic terrorists if I remember right. Definitely a middle-eastern dictator though. I kind of stopped playing after MW2 so maybe I missed something. I suppose Insurgency and Counter-Strike count.
I remember fighting Muslim weapon dealers and dictators in Ghost Recon. No Islamic cultists though. Same with Call of Duty. 4 opens up to you being killed in a military coup doesn't it? Rainbow Six Vegas 1 and 2 were about Mexican cartels. R6 Lockdown and Raven Shield have you fighting Europeans. Medal of Honor and Insurgency though. Counter-Strike too. Although those particular games might bring to mind some kind of argument about faceless, character-less antagonists vs deeper, more intimate antagonist and what differences and notions we could glean from the two.
Army of Two has you fighting Al-Qaeda though, if I remember correctly. That's another one.
Edit: If anything, Gen 7 really did the Mexican people a ton of injustice with how many games are about fighting cartels. You'd think the entirety of Mexico was just drug dealers. And this trend doesn't stop either.
TheStruggler
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Climbing churches and lighting their flag on fire that or smacking someones head on a bell like the trailer
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Do you also get upset that the snake costumed bad guys in Captain America are anti-immigration?
Really?
I can't say I'm able to speak about this properly since I don't play many shooters, but I can't say I've seen ones with radical Islam as villains.
I've seen Russians, Cubans, Somolians but I honestly can't say I've seen Islamic people portrayed as the main antagonist
What are these games you speak of?
cr0w
Old Member
Either that or simply a desert, maybe with a few tumbleweeds rolling by.
Montana's a fucking breathtaking place.
Anyway, I think any 'outrage' over this will be dwarfed by the expectations of those who are waiting for the outrage. Many are going to be disappointed when it's barely acknowledged or outright ignored.
I'm just holding myself with baited breath for the upset posts of people when the protagonist is revealed as white.
cr0w
Old Member
Please, everyone knows there are no white cops in Montana. That'd just be unrealistic.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
In the Medal of Honor reboot the multi-player originally let you play as the Taliban by name but they changed it because of backlash.
In multi-player games like Insurgency and Counter Strike it's just special forces vs the not-Taliban.
Skiptastic
Member
I'm all in.
BinaryBear07
Member
I am all in on this.
I would love to see an American Indian protagonist. It could add a unique perspective, if done well, which is a big if considering the flaming disaster that was the FC3 protagonist and friends.
It's pronounced Libryul so get it right. I am all for it because now get to experience what the rest of the world feels whenever we make a shooter based on their culture. The backlash on this is going to be epic. All of the hurt feelings and boycotts because somehow it's a bad thing to use this particular culture. The people from the opposite get to use all of the arguments gamers use by calling it just a game. This game's cultural significance has legs if they pull it off the correct way.
cr0w
Old Member
A Tribal policeman would be a great fit.
There will be exactly as much outrage as there was when Redneck Rampage was released.
Fun fact, the FBI and local law enforcement consistently name far right and white supremacist​ groups a more dangerous threat than ISIS.
This direction for the franchise actually has me very intrigued and has the chance to be a very compelling narrative.
Beautiful.
This direction for the franchise actually has me very intrigued and has the chance to be a very compelling narrative.
Bruh...
So many ways they could go with it.
Beautiful.
BRocknRolla
Member
I look forward to the Fox news coverage of this game. Should be delicious.
We've definitely had shooters with middle Eastern terrorists as enemies, but I don't recall it ever being the Islamic analog of this sort of clear characterization. I could be wrong but I recall developers having had to remove far less (markings and sounds that might be mistaken as Allah), so I doubt developers have ever gone further than that and made a game about a terrorist group co-opting Islamic symbolism and culture. Please correct me if there are indeed examples of this.
Oh man, this game is going to produce some fucking great Gaf 2017 content.
Green Yoshi
Member
55.6% of people from Montana will hate the game. ;-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Montana,_2016
More_Badass
Member
Any good books on this, if you know any?
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Ooh, I am loving this, Religious Right-wing hillbillies? This is good stuff.
Again, I'm holding out hope that the main character, rumored to be a cop, is black, so you can put the racism element into this. These are things I really want to experience.
Again, I'm holding out hope that the main character, rumored to be a cop, is black, so you can put the racism element into this. These are things I really want to experience.
Little Monser
Banned
AlexFlame116
Member
Montana is a really beautiful place! There are so many diverse landmarks and changes of nature there. While it may be "just USA" for some, there are people who would definitely enjoy the lands of Montana if Ubisoft does it right.
