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[ntinosaur]

I'm honestly thinking of going through with it because I can't pull back the foreskin much. It's a medical condition from what I've read. It has been this way my whole life, so I haven't fully seen my penis yet. We've been through so much, and I think it's time we have a proper introduction to each other. Lol

You must have a pretty tight foreskin. That was my exact situtation and i found out after going to university ! I could only see the hole of the urethra when i tried to pull it. After numerous tries and while my penis was like ...40% erect i managed to pull it off only to realise that the foreskin headlocked the head like fucking Chris Benoit.

Me moving a lot and having to study made me make it a daily routine to pull it back with some lubricant (vaseline in my case) while *ahem* going at it. After 3 months or so.. voila ! now i can pull my foreskin relatively easy and holy shit it feels AMAZING. I was so optimistic that i tried to leave the head exposed and go to sleep !! Needless to say my penis woke me up in the middle of the night and was like "PUT ME THE FUCK IN YOU BASTARD".

Humor aside, all i'm saying is circumsicion should be the last resort for your case. View retracting your foreskin as an exercise and you might make it !!! (i also considered circumcision at one point not anymore ! )

Also.. It's rather fitting that circumcision prevents issues like that that could be easily addressed if society/family could be more open to sexual education.

 

[Shredderi]

About what?

About perpetuating the bullshit that uncircumcized, uncut, unmodified, natural penis looks gross etc. You can't see the slippery slope lying in that sentiment?

 

[Sheroking]

About what? I have yet to come across another guy that was circumcised as a newborn and angry about it. Or complains that it impacts their life in any way. Majority of the people that are unspoken about it are uncircumcised themselves.

Well I'm happy that you and others don't think having it done as a baby has impacted your life, 70-120 babies die yearly in the US from conditions directly or indirectly correlated to the procedure.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...9/myths-about-circumcision-you-likely-believe

http://www.cirp.org/library/death/

There are no actual medical benefits to infant circumcision. Your aesthetic preference is entirely fueled by what is common and expected. European girls don't give a fuck because it's not the norm. Even in Canada, I've never heard from it. Is perpetuating that really worth hundreds of infant lives?

 

[manakel]

About perpetuating the bullshit that uncircumcized, uncut, unmodified, natural penis looks gross etc. You can't see the slippery slope lying in that sentiment?

Oh well yeah of course. But I also don't agree with so many of the posts in this thread that are acting like parents are the worst for choosing to circumcise their sons, comparing it to female circumcision, etc. My point was that the staunch opponents are those who are uncircumcised themselves. I have yet to ever hear from someone who was circumcised and resent their parents for it for whatever reason.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Anyone remembers the thread recently where some gaffer was complaining that his girlfriend doesn't shave down there? The replies were all like "Dude it's normal", "Hairy pussies are fine, "Grow up", "Deal with it", etc.

It's a pretty huge contrast to some of the replies here ("Uncircumcised penises look gross", "Do it, girls think uncut looks weird", etc.).

 

[Arkeband]

The important thing is that no matter what you choose, someone on the internet will either call him a mutilated freak or an anteater.

 

[Wereroku]

The only medical thing I ever heard about was that circumcised men have no risk of penile cancer. But really there does not appear to be any other reason. Also medical circumcisions are done in cases where it is needed so it seems like an unnecessary expense and medical procedure for the baby.

Americans are fucking crazy. Why is this even an option. If men weren't meant to to have foreskin, then we wouldn't be born with it.
If you think there are benefits to getting it cut, you're deluded. The rest of the world (non Muslim/Jewish) have been living perfectly well for the rest of human civilisation without this crazy crazy act of stupid.

There is some benefit and even in those countries it is done occasionally for medical reasons. But I agree with you just save your money and let the kid get it later if they need or want to.

 

[EternalDarko]

Americans are fucking crazy. Why is this even an option. If men weren't meant to to have foreskin, then we wouldn't be born with it.
If you think there are benefits to getting it cut, you're deluded. The rest of the world (non Muslim/Jewish) have been living perfectly well for the rest of human civilisation without this crazy crazy act of stupid.

 

[finalflame]

Ugh.

You people really need to be sat the fuck down and schooled.

This is not a minor thing for babies and it's filled more child sized coffins than car accidents.

What study are you referring to? Last I checked, the CDC does not track circumcision-related deaths because of how exceedingly rare they are, and the study done by Bollinger was badly flawed and not actually substantiated by the data he presented.

To add: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/circumcision-rates-declining-health-risks-rising-study-says/

I'm with ya brother.

Hoping this is sarcasm.

It's not.

 

[mantidor]

This is true. But speaking as someone whos been both, its nice knowing that Im basically immune to dick cheese and urinary infections. If for some reason im kidnapped and imprisoned for years chained to a wall, my penis will still be clean as a whistle.

You are not immune to either, specially urinary infections, and specially in the crazy rare scenario you made up.

 

[HawksWinStanley]

These are what the arms look like of every circumsized guy.

 

[jayu26]

Arnold is probably uncircumcised...

 

[manakel]

Well I'm happy that you and others don't having it done as a baby has impacted your life, 70-120 babies die yearly in the US from conditions directly or indirectly correlated to the procedure.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...9/myths-about-circumcision-you-likely-believe

http://www.cirp.org/library/death/

There are no actual medical benefits to infant circumcision. Your aesthetic preference is entirely fueled by what is common and expected. European girls don't give a fuck because it's not the norm. Even in Canada, I've never heard from it. Is perpetuating that really worth hundreds of infant lives?

70-120 out of millions is such a minuscule statistic. I mean obviously it's horrible in that it is completely preventable but, again, such a small fraction.

Also, medical benefits:
-decreased risk of UTI
-decreased risk of STIs
-easier hygiene

However small the benefits may be, they are still benefits.

 

[FUME5]

I'm not seeing a lot of posts from evolutionary biologists, naturalists or Darwinists in here, since my degree was in environmental science anything I post will merely be my personal opinion.

 

[FLAguy954]

No reason to do it. If kid wants it later, he can choose to. Don't do unnecessary surgery just because.

You can always do it later in life, reversing it is harder.
Let your child decide when he grows up.

Yup, let your child decide when he's older. End of story.

 

[SummitAve]

I'll be waiting for your son's LTTP: Circumsision thread.

 

[finalflame]

Yup, let your child decide when he's older. End of story.

Not really end of story, because had my parents let me decide when I was older I would've not done it from fear of the pain/procedure. Getting your dick chopped is not an easy choice to make as an adult. I have absolutely no recollection of when I had the procedure as a newborn, and am glad my parents opted to have me circumcised.

You have a large amount of agency over your kid's life as a baby, not everything is "let them choose later".

So while your argument is compelling (there's a compelling argument in letting the kid decide later), it's not so black and white.

 

[btrboyev]

Let the kid decide whatever he prefers when he's old enough, damn.

Poor little boy.

This line of thinking is insane. It's way more expensive and painful later in life. Babies wouldn't know it happened

 

[Shredderi]

It's not.

Jesus fucking christ. Is the whole "natural penis is gross" thing just something to boost your ego, to have something to feel better about than large groups of other men?

 

[FLAguy954]

Why is genital mutilation of males acceptable in today's society? It's horrifying. How do all you pro-circumcision people feel about female circumcision? It's a barbaric practice on either gender.

Exactly. Fuck male and female mutilation.

 

[Air]

There are small/ slight benefits that have already been addressed in this thread. Probably not enough to have a naturalist say it's worth it to cut it off. There's a small regional argument to be made (if you're in USA a large part of people are cut), but that's about as important as how you view other people's opinions on yourself.

I was cut and am fine with it. If I had a son I would probably have him cut, but I think if you're looking for a scientific argument that's pro-cut, you're not going to find much to stand on besides phimosis

 

[zou]

Either phimosis or frenulum breve. Both of which can be treated without circumcision.

Treated, lol. That's like amputating an arm to treat a sprayed ankle.

 

[finalflame]

Jesus fucking christ. Is the whole "natural penis is gross" thing just something to boost your ego, to have something to feel better about than large groups of other men?

Nah, I just don't like the way it looks. Is that ok? I don't give a shit if someone else's dick is circumcised or not, because I don't plan on interacting with anyone else's dick but my own, but I find it visually unappealing, insofar as I care about dick aesthetics.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

I was circumcised, no clue why nor do I care. So I can't say much other than it had no significant impact on my life.

My mother is a prudish (lol) bible kook so I'm sure that and the U.S. Tradition are why but I basically feel the same way.



Still if I had a kid who turned out to be a boy, as terrifying as the idea of me reproducing is, I would opt no because there's generally no point.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

I'm glad my parents had it done for me when I was a baby.

.

 

[Mr-Joker]

I was circumcised and I really wished that I understood to why my parent forced me to be circumcised as I wouldn't have gone along with it.

Unless there's a medical reason, there is no need to mutilate your son genital and I won't be doing it for my sons should end up having any.

 

[Gragen]

The way I see it, I've never heard of a medical problem of being circumcised, but I have heard of issues of not.


My issue though is Im glad I was because I have a bridge from my head to my shaft that's hard as shit to clean. Google Image if you don't understand.

 

[Marquis]

Is it really that serious lmfao? My parents made the choice for me and I could honestly care less.

 

[Spladam]

You won't remember the pain if you have it done as a baby.

Lol so nothing you do to a baby affects their mental development?

I hate how the term "lol" is now used as a smug dismissal and not to actually express laughter. What he said was true, you won't remember it. He DEFINITELY did NOT say that "nothing you do to a baby affects their mental development", as you suggested as you redefined what he said.

Personally, for whatever reason, I'm glad my parents did it. Can't say I know what the alternative is like, so take that as you will OP.

 

[F0rneus]

Treated, lol. That's like amputating an arm to treat a sprayed ankle.

No that would be what circumcising for those conditions, is.

 

[finalflame]

Is it really that serious lmfao? My parents made the choice for me and I could honestly care less.

So you care some?

The way I see it, I've never heard of a medical problem of being circumcised, but I have heard of issues of not.

My issue though is I wish I wasn't because I have a bridge from my head to my shaft that's hard as shit to clean. Google Image if you don't understand.

It's..usually the opposite?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...isk-genital-herpes-hpv-infection-not-syphilis

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/circumcision-rates-declining-health-risks-rising-study-says/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/s...sion-outweigh-risks-pediatric-group-says.html

 

[Aske]

If in doubt, remember that there is the slimmest possibility that the procedure will go wrong. Unless you're really committed to giving your baby a pretty dick, why roll the dice?

 

[Shredderi]

Also, of course you're not gonna be angry at your parents for having you cut because that has been the default for you as long as you have been able to have memories. Also a massive amount of other people are just like you so it's not like you're going to be an outcast because of it so no I wouldn't expect trouble on those fronts. It's not about that. If in some alternate timeline there would be tattoiing a smiley face on a baby's forehead instead of circumcision, you would be seen weird today if you didn't have that damn smiley face on your forehead. This whole "it's weird" thing is conditioning.

 

[valeo]

One of the only facts I have discovered that legitimately shocked me was the fact that most of the population of North America is circumsized.

Before that, I thought it was just a small section of Jewish people.

In Australia and NZ it's basically unheard of unless for actual medical reasons.

 

[Gragen]

It's..usually the opposite?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...isk-genital-herpes-hpv-infection-not-syphilis

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/circumcision-rates-declining-health-risks-rising-study-says/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/s...sion-outweigh-risks-pediatric-group-says.html

I'm not talking about issues you could protect yourself from dude.

 

[finalflame]

I'm not talking about issues you could protect yourself from dude.

So what are you talking about? Source your statements.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

I had it done when I was 10 and I had a choice if I wanted it or not.

I got £300 for it.

 

[ntinosaur]

If in doubt, remember that there is the slimmest possibility that the procedure will go wrong. Unless you're really committed to giving your baby a pretty dick, why roll the dice?

Disagree.
Circumcised penises get erect, uncircumcised ones blossom like a flower.

It's magical really
(just kidding all penises are fine)

 

[Deleted member 17706]

It's a barbaric practice with no real benefit that is rapidly on the decline.

It's just a really strange thing to do when you think stop to think about for it a second.

 

[Straight Edge]

Ladies love my cut meat hammer.

 

[BlitzEngineer]

The HIV argument is so fucking weird. I mean the whole discussion is weird but that in particular.

You know what protects you from STDs with a 99% success rate? A condom. But we found a study that says a circumcised penis has a marginally better chance of resisting infection when having unprotected sex. Better cut the tip of my baby son's dick off.

Like, what the fuck?

 

[Manoko]

To everyone who's interested about circumcision

 

[Dunlop]

The HIV argument is so fucking weird. I mean the whole discussion is weird but that in particular.

You know what protects you from STDs with a 99% success rate? A condom. But we found a study that says a circumcised penis has a marginally better chance of resisting infection when having unprotected sex. Better cut the tip of my baby son's dick off.

Like, what the fuck?

STD studies magically appeared when insurance companies in the US were about to stop covering the procedure

 

[Marquis]

So you care some?



It's..usually the opposite?

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...isk-genital-herpes-hpv-infection-not-syphilis

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/circumcision-rates-declining-health-risks-rising-study-says/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/27/s...sion-outweigh-risks-pediatric-group-says.html

For me it was just something I never cared to ask my parents about. Once I learned there was a difference it was just like ok cool I'm circumcised and I moved on from there.

 

[finalflame]

To everyone who's interested about circumcision

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/130/3/e756

Evaluation of current evidence indicates that the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks, and the benefits of newborn male circumcision justify access to this procedure for those families who choose it.

For me it was just something I never cared to ask my parents about. Once I learned there was a difference it was just like ok cool I'm circumcised and I moved on from there.

I know -- I was being cheeky about your wording The correct form would be "I couldn't care less". I hear you, though, I don't think about it much, but aesthetically for my own tastes just glad it was done during a time which I can no longer remember/don't have to deal with getting it done now.

 

[SchrodingerC]

Ahhh, the annual GAF circumcision thread.

2017 begins today!

At least there isn't the one person that compare circumcision to fgm, so some progress is being made.

 

[MisterAnderson]

I've never heard of anyone wanting to reverse it, ever.

 

[jerry113]

The value of circumcision is 100% a cultural construct and practice at this point. With modern hygiene and daily showering, the cleaning aspect of uncircumcised vs. circumcised is superficial.

 

[S-Wind]

To all those saying let the kid choose themselves, I've read about people wanting to have been circumcised because they did not want to actually go through it as adults.

Then they did not want to be circumcised that much, really.

And/or: it wasn't truly THAT important for them.

 

[Kickz]

Do it, its hygienic

Save ya kid from dick cheese