The Bible actually doesn't encourage circumcision. It's entirely for aesthetic reasons in North America at this point.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Circumcision.. What do Evolutionary Biologists/Naturalists/Darwinists think?
- Thread starter Polioliolio
- Start date
- Status
The Bible actually doesn't encourage circumcision. It's entirely for aesthetic reasons in North America at this point.
It's genital mutilation. It's completely pointless, there are no real benefits that doesn't apply to uncircumcised people by just washing your dick once in a while or wear condoms.
It was a idiotic practice made up by puritans in the early 1900s who hated masturbation and thought it would stop youngsters from doing so, but that didn't work now did it? Be part of the movement to end a stupid idea in America and slowly eradicate it. If your kid grows up and still wants to do it, that is fine, he is by then an adult and that is his choice. If you're looking for scientific reasons not to, it keeps the sensitivity of the penis up, keeps it clean, helps with lubrication during sex. It has specific purposes that were evolved through thousands of years of banging.
Do not however be a creepy parent who worries about the visual look of his child's cock.
Also, if you want statistical data: most of the world don't circumcise and so far, we are doing perfectly fine.
Edit: Just did a quick google dig to check. Consider Europe and USA, USA is pretty much the world leading proponent for circumcision while Europe is basically the opposite. If the argument is that it is healthier to people to be circumcised, the data certainly doesn't seem to support it.
I think the most basic reason for this however is not because of the keeping of foreskin or not, I think that relates to sexual education, where Europe is far ahead of the USA. in terms of supporting public sexual education than many states in the US. And that is what it all comes down to, good sexual education, good hygiene which is simple by modern means (as modern as early ancient era of soap and water) and wearing a condom.
Do watch that.
Also, while at it, do take time to educate yourself about the female hymen, turns out A LOT of people got shit wrong regarding it in baffling ways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM79UBTwfsg
It was a idiotic practice made up by puritans in the early 1900s who hated masturbation and thought it would stop youngsters from doing so, but that didn't work now did it? Be part of the movement to end a stupid idea in America and slowly eradicate it. If your kid grows up and still wants to do it, that is fine, he is by then an adult and that is his choice. If you're looking for scientific reasons not to, it keeps the sensitivity of the penis up, keeps it clean, helps with lubrication during sex. It has specific purposes that were evolved through thousands of years of banging.
Do not however be a creepy parent who worries about the visual look of his child's cock.
Also, if you want statistical data: most of the world don't circumcise and so far, we are doing perfectly fine.
Edit: Just did a quick google dig to check. Consider Europe and USA, USA is pretty much the world leading proponent for circumcision while Europe is basically the opposite. If the argument is that it is healthier to people to be circumcised, the data certainly doesn't seem to support it.
I think the most basic reason for this however is not because of the keeping of foreskin or not, I think that relates to sexual education, where Europe is far ahead of the USA. in terms of supporting public sexual education than many states in the US. And that is what it all comes down to, good sexual education, good hygiene which is simple by modern means (as modern as early ancient era of soap and water) and wearing a condom.
Do watch that.
Also, while at it, do take time to educate yourself about the female hymen, turns out A LOT of people got shit wrong regarding it in baffling ways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM79UBTwfsg
Why have it done at all???
I had phimosis.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Either phimosis or frenulum breve. Both of which can be treated without circumcision.
George Washington
Member
This.
Required viewing: Christopher Hitchens destroying a Rabbi on the matter of circumcision.
You know they will
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Do it or his wang will looks like the worm monsters from Peter Jackson's King Kong.
So a legit medical reason. Which can also be treated with meds.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
In the modern age, you don't need to do it OP. It's very easy to keep your dick clean.
Female genital mutilation is obviously the more brutal and barbaric pracitice, but that's like saying you shouldn't compare a murder spree to a genocide. They're both terrible, and just because something related is worse doesn't excuse the other.
Thousands of babies are dead over the last couple decades for no other reason than ignorant parents pointlessly mutilated their child for religious or aesthetic reasons.
Sorry.Not only that, but a part with a ton of nerve endings. A part that serves a function and keeps the glans sensitive.
We didn't start this ritual because we thought it looked better. We started it because somebody decided that jerking off is bad.
Fulminator
Member
I would go with an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Don't forget to do your daughters as well if you have any, no one likes big labias and clitoris'. It could help her attract a mate too.
This is true. But speaking as someone whos been both, its nice knowing that Im basically immune to dick cheese and urinary infections. If for some reason im kidnapped and imprisoned for years chained to a wall, my penis will still be clean as a whistle.
The Wraith
Member
Don't do it.
Mackenzie 92
Member
as a man that isn't circumcised, I will most definitely get my own son circumcised.
it's an unnecessary struggle imo. hygiene, uti's, phimosis, sexual confidence with the ladies (some chicks straight up do not like it and will not touch it).
as for those saying, "oh just have it done when your older". aside from the cost which isn't cheap, it's not a simple procedure, requires a good amount of time to recover and the risks are much higher when you are older.
it's an unnecessary struggle imo. hygiene, uti's, phimosis, sexual confidence with the ladies (some chicks straight up do not like it and will not touch it).
as for those saying, "oh just have it done when your older". aside from the cost which isn't cheap, it's not a simple procedure, requires a good amount of time to recover and the risks are much higher when you are older.
.gif)
What if he's gay? Most of us gays like the uncut menz. They're more rare. And they're fun to stick your tongue in. Also: Docking.
I don't.....that is a very specific scenario to suddenly bring up. Is this a common occurrence in your area?
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
I just asked my boss at the time whose wife is head of pediatrics at a local children's hospital, he said not to. That was enough for me
Sora the Cat
Member
Bubba_Sparks
Member
I was circumcised, no clue why nor do I care. So I can't say much other than it had no significant impact on my life.
What if he's gay? Most of us gays like the uncut menz. They're more rare. And they're fun to stick your tongue in. Also: Docking.
If you're not docking to this music I'm going to be very upset.
So some women think it looks weird?
Seriously, it's how we're born. Get over it.
Seriously. If there was some absurd inherited cultural tradition to cut off baby's earlobes, you'd have these people argue that we shouldn't stop cutting off their earlobes because some women might think men with earlobes are weird.
It's insane.
I'm sure it's phimosis..but to make matters worse, there's also a bit of skin connecting the tip of the head to the foreskin itself so I can't retract it much.
Exactly. Yay let's just mutilate baby dicks because unmodified dick looks weird to women north america. I'm shaking my head so fucking hard right now. "It looks weird to some women". So people are doing this en masse because some women in there think it looks weird, you know, because everyone in there has been doing it for long enough time that women have become used to that and anything other is weird, so it's better to repeat the process so they will always be thinking unmodified dick is weird.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Look up pictures of both. Frenulum breve is where that bit of skin you are talking about is too short to retract the foreskin when erect. If you can pull it down no problem when you are soft, congratulations on the short frenulum. If you play with yourself right now, you might notice that the "pain" you feel come from that spot, and not a tight foreskin.
If so, that's totally a problem that's fixable without circumcision.
There's still a scalpel involved, sorry...
TheWasTheJoke
Member
.
Like it honestly doesn't matter that much, do it or don't, probably lean on don't tho
I wish my parents removed my appendix as a baby because I developed appendicitis as an adult.
finalflame
Member
Stallion Dan
Member
Ugh.
You people really need to be sat the fuck down and schooled.
This is not a minor thing for babies and it's filled more child sized coffins than car accidents.
Hoping this is sarcasm.
Mighty Chin
Banned
I'm with ya brother.
First post nails it.
Had it done in my mid twenties (phimosis) so have experience in both camps.
Didn't do it fit my kids... Cause it's really not necessary.
About what? I have yet to come across another guy that was circumcised as a newborn and angry about it. Or complains that it impacts their life in any way. Majority of the people that are unspoken about it are uncircumcised themselves.
- Status