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The Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth+ |OT| 200 More Hours of Bad Keeper Runs

I don't think there's any justification for this room being in the game other than to simply end runs. Abysmal, abysmal, ABYSMAL design this room is.

In case you can't see it, there's a Portal in the middle of the room as well.

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So glad Northernlion got to experience this room before it's patched out. Pretty humorous moment with his reaction. As I was watching I was thinking "is this a fucking glitch?" :p
 

David___

Banned
On a 3 win streak using Cain, Isaac and Judus. Dont know who to use as the last two for the achievement that needs a 5 win streak as 5 different characters. Thinking about using Azazel and praying to RNG gods on a Eden greed mode run, but not sure.
 

LordRaptor

Member
On a 3 win streak using Cain, Isaac and Judus. Dont know who to use as the last two for the achievement that needs a 5 win streak as 5 different characters. Thinking about using Azazel and praying to RNG gods on a Eden greed mode run, but not sure.

Samson is my super-reliable goto for good runs just because he has guaranteed built in damage buffs. IV machine and a bloody penny and you can super saiyan at will.
 

Chronoja

Member
Samson is my super-reliable goto for good runs just because he has guaranteed built in damage buffs. IV machine and a bloody penny and you can super saiyan at will.

Eve too, ever since she got the razor blade, maybe even before it, being able to activate Whore of Babylon at 1 heart instead of 1/2, she plays like a better version of Judas.
 

dickroach

Member
there's an achievement for a 5 run streak with 5 different characters? damn. that's tough

Just finished Greedier mode with Cain. I wasn't looking forward to fighting Golden Ultra Greed, build wasn't that good, but whatever happened he died instantly after transforming, he did his little animation of coming back to life then died, not that I'm complaining, a free win is a free win lol.

Also, unrelated but Jacob's Ladder is amazing in Greed(ier) mode, my Maggy run had tons of tears up, Incubus, double vision and eventually Death's Touch but I could basically just fire at a wall and pretty much everything died, a lot of fun.

he died instantly because you must've had Little Horn. it does that

and yeah, Jacob's Ladder is just amazing in general. it was the first item I got in my first run in Afterbirth+. beat The Void with Apollyon
 

Amani

Member
Had Rebirth on Steam for ages and just couldn't get into it like I did with the original. Yesterday, I double dipped for the Vita version wanting to give it another try and I'm back in after 3 good runs.

Boy, I uh, have some catching up to do don't I?
 

Chronoja

Member
there's an achievement for a 5 run streak with 5 different characters? damn. that's tough



he died instantly because you must've had Little Horn. it does that

and yeah, Jacob's Ladder is just amazing in general. it was the first item I got in my first run in Afterbirth+. beat The Void with Apollyon

Interesting, I think I did have Little Horn, but I assumed it wouldn't have worked on bosses. Euthanasia was the only other thing I thought could have done it but I didn't have it that run.
 
I don't wanna spoil myself so i didn't read all the messages but were the crash-at-start bugs finally fixed? I have already tested all the uninstalled and installed fixes and none of them worked =(.
 

David___

Banned
Finally got the 5 win streak needed. Had a rough start as Eve but ended up getting around 14 damage with Tech X and a ton of soul hearts. Glad thats finally done
 

KarmaCow

Member
Wow, portals nerfed to death. From what I can tell they now automatically close after spawning at most three enemies. Seems like an overreaction when simply removing them from the earlier floors would have been better without making them basically irrelevant.
 
Wow, portals nerfed to death. From what I can tell they now automatically close after spawning at most three enemies. Seems like an overreaction when simply removing them from the earlier floors would have been better without making them basically irrelevant.

They really could have approached the nerf differently. I think they may have been a little too common on the earlier floors (I had a run get stopped dead in its tracks on the 3rd floor after hitting my 3rd or 4th portal room) but limiting the enemy spawns to 3 really takes the terror out of them. I guess the triple portal rooms will still be a bitch, but I'll be a lot less worried when I get on those rooms.
 

DMTripper

Member
Got 1001% but just can't get the will to go for the new unlocks. Keeper runs kinda ruined me :p

Still I've been playing for fun but damn that new greed mode is brutal!
 
Wow, portals nerfed to death. From what I can tell they now automatically close after spawning at most three enemies. Seems like an overreaction when simply removing them from the earlier floors would have been better without making them basically irrelevant.

I think they're in a good place right now. Two portals spawning around 5-6 enemies is about the size of a normal room.
 

dickroach

Member
I looked at my bestiary before the patch and I had more portals that'd spawned than ANything else. even fujcking flies. it's good they got nerfed like crazy. they should be rare.
 

CassSept

Member
I looked at my bestiary before the patch and I had more portals that'd spawned than ANything else. even fujcking flies. it's good they got nerfed like crazy. they should be rare.

The worst thing is you're not even exaggerating, I have not played AB+ much but on my Bestiary only attack flies outnumber the portals, this is definitely not something that should happen.
 
Just a heads up: It seems like people have finally figured out the Marathon achievement. Supposedly you have to win five daily runs in a row (as in, finish the run and pick up the trophy). Also doesn't seem like you have to do it five days in a row, so you can skip some days here and there. So long as you win five straight daily runs that you start, it should work. Today is ???, BTW. Relatively easy run, only have to beat the Mom fight.

The Dedication achievement is supposedly daily run-related as well. I've never really bothered with daily runs before, so I guess that's about to change.
 

Finalow

Member
uhm, is it impossible to spawn Angel Rooms when you're playing as Lilith or what? I've had multiple runs where I had a 50% or 75% chance to spawn one but it never fucking did.
I finally managed to get to Mega Satan thanks to a Sacrifice Room after 4 runs or so.
 

David___

Banned
uhm, is it impossible to spawn Angel Rooms when you're playing as Lilith or what? I've had multiple runs where I had a 50% or 75% chance to spawn one but it never fucking did.
I finally managed to get to Mega Satan thanks to a Sacrifice Room after 4 runs or so.

From what I gather the percentage shown on the screen is the chance of a devil deal turning into an angel room, so you need to spawn a devil deal in the first place to get angel rooms, so taking red heart damage reduces the chance like normal.
 
Down to Cain and Judas needed for Greedier. At the rate I've been going (2/day), I should be done today. So close.

Good to know Edmund agreed with me that Devil Rooms were really underpowered and needed a reason to go to them
/s

Angel Rooms have been buffed as well.

Like there's Angel Rooms with multiple items now, and there are Angel Rooms with both statues so you can Mega-Satan after only one room.

Still nobody is going to willingly do Angel Rooms as a general rule.
 
Every single time I get the Missing Poster, I die before finding a sacrifice room...

...

I went three floors without finding one this time! How!?

...I just want to unlock the last character...

Also Azazel is bad at killing Mom's Heart
 

wetflame

Pizza Dog
Every single time I get the Missing Poster, I die before finding a sacrifice room...

...

I went three floors without finding one this time! How!?

...I just want to unlock the last character...

Also Azazel is bad at killing Mom's Heart

I was just about to comment on this to say that's not how you unlock the character before I looked it up, I hadn't realised that they'd changed it and added all the additional features.
 
Azazel is bad at every boss from Mom's Heart onwards. Azazel is amazing early game, frequently making it easy to survive to get good items and become ridiculous, but if he gets nothing notable he is awful at the late game.

While holding the Missing Poster, I actually killed It Lives, but her dying explosion of bullets hit me and I died.

But the chances of the Cathedral having a Sacrifice Room aren't very good. I just can't believe Depths II, and Womb I and II didn't have any Sacc rooms...

I had Brimstone, the real one, not just Az's built in one, I had no excuse to die, I choked

Guess I'll just keep insta-buying Mom's box whenever I find it. That's how I got it last run.

I shouldn't have grabbed it. I was on pace to beat the game in 20 minutes and get the achievement. I was at Womb by 8 minutes for crying out loud. With Brimstone (my first devil room on the second floor!) and like 20 damage. That doesn't happen often. But I slowed right down after getting the Missing Poster and it caused me to take damage I didn't need to take and everything turned terrible real fast.
 

David___

Banned
Screwed up an VERY EASY daily by thinking going to the boss rush was a good idea. Used the void on all the items and somehow got down to half a spirit heart. Good thing I was only on a one win streak I guess.

On the bright side I just beat Delirium in about 10 seconds. He only changed forms like 3 times.
 

MrPanic

Member
They really added some shitty achievements with this dlc.

Dedication
Participate in 31 dailies in a row

The Marathon
Get a 5-win streak in Daily Challenges. (It does not have to be 5 days in a row.)

I don't mind daily's on its own, but having to do so many in a row just to be able to complete all the achievements is a really lame way to lock them up.
 

Just_one

Member
I DID IT GAF!!!

FINALLY finished hard mode with the keeper and unlocked the last baby .

only thing left is finding mega blast (already unlocked it) and im done until Afterbirth + on PS4 :)

still cant believe i beat womb and boss rush with him after so many hours "wasted" trying to do it!!! :)
 

ghibli99

Member
Ugh screw this game.

I just got games like Salt & Sanctuary, Hyper Light Drifter, and Assetto Corsa through the Steam sale. I'm still playing through the Last Guardian. Playing through the Ace Attorney trilogy on 3DS...

None of that will matter because I'm going to buy Afterbirth+ and probably play this damn game 3 hours per day and nothing else. I have to be pushing close to 600 hours between all versions of BOI (my Steam wasn't recording play time for the original properly was stuck at 51 minutes for months once). Just pump this into my veins!
LOL This is what frightens me about games like this, OW, FF14, etc., that if I start, I won't play anything else. I mean, good for the wallet and all, but there are a dozen other games that I actively want to play! Guess it's a good problem to have though...
 

Chronoja

Member
Finally finished Greedier mode with all characters, and with it finishing everyone's Completion Marks. Managed to cheese The Lost with the Gnawed Leaf because why not, The Keeper I just did straight up. I'm actually very surprised the keeper run survived, Had a few damage ups, decent amount of tears up but the build itself wasn't particularly strong. I took the Brown Nugget from the Womb onwards, that item + Car Battery is actually hilarious. Every arena was just filled with turret flies, I was doing decent dps everywhere on the field without even having to shoot.

Just down to Ultra Hard and the last few achievements. Been reading about those Daily achievements, not a huge fan of them either, as much as I love BoI, the dailies don't really appeal to me, and I don't really want this game kind of lingering on for a month when I want to call it quits.
 

Finalow

Member
From what I gather the percentage shown on the screen is the chance of a devil deal turning into an angel room, so you need to spawn a devil deal in the first place to get angel rooms, so taking red heart damage reduces the chance like normal.
I know how it works, but it felt strange to the point where I thought it had something to do with the character. I don't remember having so many issues spawning Angel Rooms with pretty much any other character.
I guess I was just unlucky.
 
I really, REALLY do not like the new secret boss.

This is going to turn into "Reset my run until I get Gnawed Leaf and an orbital and leave the game on overnight"
 

Magwik

Banned
Got into Boss Rush as Apollyon
Curse of the Unknown
Ended up succed all 4 items
One item made me larger?

I also fucked everything up and succed the clicker right before Hush and rerolled into Azazel.

EDIT: Fuck.
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Chronoja

Member
Got into Boss Rush as Apollyon
Curse of the Unknown
Ended up succed all 4 items
One item made me larger?

I also fucked everything up and succed the clicker right before Hush and rerolled into Azazel.

EDIT: Fuck.
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edit: misread nvm. But yeah, all buttons in The Void seem to crash the game, so best avoid them.
 

David___

Banned
Gotta love those times when you think youre gonna steamroll boss rush only to be teleport-ed to the void instantly. Honestly, they should've just made it so that you get access to the void if you beat ??? or The Lamb in under 40 mins, to keep up the fact that Hush and Boss Rush are under a similar timer.
 
I did complete my last Greedier runs last night. Decided to just do Cain and Judas straight up instead of messing with breaking shenanigans, although when I got to a later floor with Judas and the D20 showed up I couldn't help myself.

So ultimately of the 14 runs 3 were done normally(Cain, Azazel, and Eve), 11 breaks, and 8 of them were started as Isaac and abused the Clicker to pick a class to win with.

The ability of Clicker to eat items is probably more useful than the ability to switch classes. There are so many items which seriously weaken a breaking run and I was able to eat all of them, from bad items like Isaac's Heart and Taurus to normally good items like Mom's Knife and Ludovico technique.
 
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