Now that you mention it I've only ever had a fire type in my in-game team twice.
Arcanine in FRLG and Chandelure in BW
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Pokémon Sun & Moon | Info and speculation thread
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Now that you mention it I've only ever had a fire type in my in-game team twice.
Arcanine in FRLG and Chandelure in BW
Two words: Lucian's Bronzong. That thing made Whitney's Miltank look like child's play since at least you could get a Geodude or Machop to take it down, with only one weakness, plenty of resistances and the use of Calm Mind made it way surprisingly hard to take down for an in-game trainer in Diamond & Pearl (it was easier in Platinum since Houndoom was available and served as the perfect counter to it).
Ah yes, grinding away and waste more time & money is the proper solution to terrible design. You're missing the point: The game is presenting you a challenge that, without your proposed grinding strategy, doesn't allow you to properly prepare for with the normal roster of Pokemon, instead relying on outspending Lucian until his Bronzong falls. If the main campaign is supposed to help players prepare for the competitive scene (especially since Diamond/Pearl was where it became a lot more prominent), then this is a spectacular example of how not to do so.
Finale Fireworker
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Random thought: I wonder if they will rework Hidden Power to accommodate Fairy. They left it alone last gen and as far as I am aware it was not updated in ORAS either.
GiantBreadbug
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So the demo is coming out at different times in different regions? Hmm, then when would be a good time to expect Japan to get it?
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Geminosity
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Ooh! Maybe a pyukumuku evo?
PadWarrior
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Interesting.
Finale Fireworker
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It definitely looks sub-aquatic to me.
Ooh! Maybe a pyukumuku evo?
Doesn't really look that similar to me.
But then again, sometimes evolutions get weird.
Remoraid-Octillery being a sterling example.
Hero Prinny
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I still don't understand how this one works out, easily without a doubt the most bizarre evolution in pokemon imo. only thing that it kept was the typing, besides that its a completely different pokemon.
Yeah same, I had Inferape when I first playthrough the game and later playthrough I swapped him out for Charizard so I didn't notices the small fire type.
Might as well as Hidden Power is meant to have all type.
Hmm I wonder if she's pyukumuku evo?
Man Hypno looks pissed off.
Only pattern is the whole "weapon" angle, and even then its a bit of a jump.
You go pistol to bazooka/cannon.
Cloud Strife
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Looks new to me. Diving making a return?
New thread for new news?
Doubtful: Pokémon cards have a tendency to depict Pokémon in a setting one would not normally encounter them. You can already see this with Hypno on the other set standing around on a beach which doesn't look the least bit right.
New Pokemon looks really interesting. It doesn't look pure water so I wonder what it's type could be. It's purple (like poison) but it looks like a flower (so grass). I'd lean more towards the latter. Water/Grass is a pretty good typing, too.
My favorite type is Ghost type, which consistently gets shafted when it comes to inclusion, yet you don't hear me complain how pretty much every generation is shit because they didn't have ghosts in it. Pokemon has literally never had balanced diversity. Get over it.
Then overlevel and bring some heal items and hit neutral moves. I took it down without a fire type when I was like 10, are you telling me that you can't do the same?
GiantBreadbug
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Oh I forgot since the series has never had it that means it's totally out of place to want. Come on. People bitch about this all the time and rightfully so. Even if it's not "balanced," I think anyone can see that ONE new evolutionary of a particular type is really silly and is really easily remedied. It's quite easy to ensure fans of all types get some love.
Also FUCK yes I love Ghosts too. Fave type here as well. And you can bet I used to bitch about the lack of Ghost types. But really Gen V and VI have been soooooo good to the type with almost all of my favorite Pokémon coming from those gens.
My point is that yes it's okay for people to want a type to be represented at least more than just with the starter line.
Finale Fireworker
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I would also like to say I love Ghost type. Very cool typing.
PhazonBlazer
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First Ghost/Water type?
nah, Frillish and Jellicent
spyroflame0487
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Water/Poison seems like the best bet. It's a little sea urchin looking thing, plus it's got little stingers on the end of its tentacles.
If Riddler Leaker guy was right, then maybe it paralyzes enemies or something?
If Riddler Leaker guy was right, then maybe it paralyzes enemies or something?
Already Torn
Banned
I don't think it'll be Water/Poison. Too obvious. Anyway, demo up at midnight or no?
MegaManTrigger
Banned
The same argument could be flipped against you, why is there a hyperfocus on people who want a fire type on their team? You're literally forcing people to play the game your way when players should be choosing their own way. The game's developers should have taken a balanced approach to their dex.
balladofwindfishes
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Water/Poison seems likely, if it's an anemone.
And it's blue, which means it's probably not one of those aquatic animals that aren't Water type.
Or, it's a really crazy Alolan Mawile.
And it's blue, which means it's probably not one of those aquatic animals that aren't Water type.
Or, it's a really crazy Alolan Mawile.
Not really. You ask me that and ask you: Why is it now that you want to focus on balance? It's because you had to adapt and not use a type you liked. Big deal. There was only one new ghost in Gen 2 and you couldn't get it until the very tail end of the game. You don't really care about balancing diversity, you're only concerned with playing the same way you always do instead of trying new styles. There are limited fire types in Sinnoh because it's a cold region. It makes sense there wouldn't be as many there. The Sinnoh dex might not be the greatest, it keeps out a lot of new evos and prevos, but it's lack of fire types isn't one of them. If you expect balance of typing in Pokemon, look at a distribution chart so you can realize just how soon that's never gonna happen.
if anything the lack of fire types would be a good thing for balance for the main story, no?
just like how generally you can't get many different electric types until late beyond that regions Pikachu clone or scrub to god type because early game has a dearth of flying and water types.
just like how generally you can't get many different electric types until late beyond that regions Pikachu clone or scrub to god type because early game has a dearth of flying and water types.
MrCookiepants
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New thread for new news?
It looks like it has hair made of saggy boobs.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I don't see the medusa here, it's an anemone pokemon
If going by riddler's leaks, I think this is more towards the Darker than Black character
If going by riddler's leaks, I think this is more towards the Darker than Black character
I would argue an anemone is kinda medusa-like.
Head of snakes, all the tentacles, sorta thing.
balladofwindfishes
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It could be a jellyfish polyp, and a pun on "medusa" as a first stage of a two stage mythical Medusa themed jellyfish Pokemon
GiantBreadbug
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It's easily my favorite. The past two gens have been amazing for Ghost fans too (especially with cool type combos).
Jellicent, Chandelure, Golurk, Aegislash, Trevenant are just some of my favorites from Gen V and Gen VI. Then there's Drifblim, Sableye, and Gengar.
Golly gee it's a good type. I'm excited for Mimikyu but if it doesn't evolve I hope we get another Ghost/Fairy soon. Same for Bug/Ghost cuz Shedinja is cool but I want another. Ooooh and we need another Ghost/Electric Type because I love Rotom but the base form isn't very good (stat wise).
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I guess, but the tentacles need eyes or their own "brain" or something
It could be a jellyfish polyp, and a pun on "medusa" as a first stage of a two stage mythical Medusa themed jellyfish Pokemon
hah, that looks like a reverse Inkay
I thought about that, but it looks more grounded.It could be a jellyfish polyp, and a pun on "medusa" as a first stage of a two stage mythical Medusa themed jellyfish Pokemon
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Wait, seems like the Darker than Black character is Silvally
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Because balance means more playstyle options for the players? Just because there was a lack of balance in older games, doesn't mean that the dex set-up was perfect. Why do you think people make fun of the amount of love water Pokemon get relative to other types? Also, what a laughable comment. You're saying that people are complacent and don't care about type diversity (which is a baseless assumption btw), and here you are forcing how you would approach the game down other people's throats. That is insanely ironic.
Sinnoh is absolutely not a cold region. Sinnoh has one winter city (Snowpoint) and mountains, and you generalize it as being a cold region. By that logic, Kalos is a cold region because it has Snowbelle City. Sinnoh as a region is actually widely varied in its temperature and climates. Sinnoh has varying climates: The Wetlands, Snow, Tropical (Battle Zone), and so on. Typically North Sinnoh is obviously cooler, but South Sinnoh is a warm area. That being said, you can't even use that to justify the lack of fire types.
That's in around 12 hours then? Not too bad.
Not really ironic. I've had to deal with it, suddenly because you get offended by the lack of fire types and you can't. Sounds like a crock of bullshit to me when type diversity is suddenly valued. By all means, I welcome a balanced game and Pokemon has done a lot to improve on that in recent history, but people have literally no right to complain about a game with unbalanced typings after being okay with a series of games with unbalanced typings.
Also, there's literally fresh snow on the starting route after the Platinum revamp and your characters actually wear winter gear (ironically they expanded the Dex to add fire types in that one) and a huge ass mountain dividing the region in two and 'one winter city' is separated by a huge route filled with snow.
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People have been complaining about unbalanced types and representation of types since literally Day 1 with how overpowered Psychic types were in Red/Blue and how overrepresented Water types were (and still are if we're being frank) in comparison to other typings, among other common and constant criticisms like how unfair it was for Steel types to have as many resistances as it did pre-Gen VI and a lack of useful Bug moves until X-Scissor and Bug Bite came along. People have every right to be disappointed with a lack of representation or balance when you have a type as defensively poor as, say, Ice when so many Ice type Pokémon are, stats-wise, too slow to take advantage of the type's offensive capabilities when most are designed to be bulky or slow attackers (Walrein, Dewgong, Lapras, Avalugg, Beartic, etc.). Where you're coming up with this consent to the past metagame or the accusation of someone being ""offended"" because of them acknowledging this imbalance is beyond me.
Dark Orchid
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Friend of SciresM and Kaphotics tweeted it out, we'll know the details when they finish writing the pastebin.
PadWarrior
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Ah yeah here we go lol
