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Final Fantasy VII Remake is a multi-part series
- Thread starter PhillipCostigan
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One thing I am noticing is people actually expected the remake to be a higher res, better character model 1 to 1 remake of the original game. Why exactly?
Ever since they showed the PS3 prototype video this was not the case. I agree that just doing the same exact game with better character models and stuff would be quicker, faster etc, but that's clearly not what they are aiming for since back on the PS3.
Ever since they showed the PS3 prototype video this was not the case. I agree that just doing the same exact game with better character models and stuff would be quicker, faster etc, but that's clearly not what they are aiming for since back on the PS3.
There are some clear breaks that could be used as climaxes from the original game.
- Leaving Midgar
- 1st run in with Jenova
- The original end to disc 1
- Showdown at the Northern Crater
- Protecting Midgar from Weapon
- Final battle
Depending on how they cut it, they could use all of these and make six distinct episodes out of the original story.
Omegasquash
Member
My decision to buy at release is really based solely on price and content per episode. I think it looks great, and there's a good chance I'm going to play it either way, but if we're talking 4 or 5 episodes at $60 each....
I don't have a problem with how they price it. I just personally don't see paying a few hundred dollars to play through FFVII again as being worth it.
I don't have a problem with how they price it. I just personally don't see paying a few hundred dollars to play through FFVII again as being worth it.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Game is probably going to be massive as hell. They probably figured that in order to meet the expectations that a FF7 remake is supposed to meet, it has to be just as impress gamers as much as it did in '97.
I am a lot more calm than I was yesterday. I was flipping out.
After the new info I recovered some of my optimism. Although I still don't like the idea of the episodes (Mainly because it will completely halt my progress of the game for an unspecified amount of time), and because this puts the overworld at risk.
But I will wait. I will try to be more positive, because that's the kind of person I am.
The episodic nature still worries me greatly, but I will wait and see. The idea of visiting a larger area of Midgar sounds pretty awesome.
I am calmed...
I am calmed...
I am...
We're in this together, friend.
So because your bitter at changes that were going to happen regardless, other people being mad is funny?
I don't understand that. I am grudgingly accepting the results as long as they stick enough content into each game, but i don't like the split the fandom is going to inevitably have over it.
If it ends up being a success however, i think we'll all be a lot happier(or not)
VARIA
Member
I wonder how transparent Square-Enix will be with the normal consumer that this is an episodic game?
Will they put "Episode 1" on the cover of the game or something to distinguish it as a part of a whole? Or will they just call it FFVII and later just call the other episodes FFVII-2 etc...?
So many questions....
Will they put "Episode 1" on the cover of the game or something to distinguish it as a part of a whole? Or will they just call it FFVII and later just call the other episodes FFVII-2 etc...?
So many questions....
Garrett Hawke
Member
Honestly if each "section" is as big as an actual game (so say each chapter is the size of FFXIII) I think full price is fair. But if we're talking 3 discs of 10 hour campaigns then that's a harder sell imo.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I like the sound of a more fleshed out and detailed Midgar. I will suffer the wrath of multi-parts if we can get Part 1 as detailed as the PSX trailer.
BomberMouse
Member
I'm ok with this if this means we can play that glorious opening act before 2018.
Opening act = best part of FFVII anyway.
Opening act = best part of FFVII anyway.
Hey guys...
Remember all those half-hearted uninspired nostalgia cash-in movie remakes we all hated?
Let's do that to FFVII!
???
Remaking a classic that's as beloved as FF7 in that way is no where near comparable to this.
Why do you think it took them so long to make a remake in the first place? Because they absolutely know they're going to disappoint people with the changes they make. They've decided the investment is worth the risk at this point, but there is absolutely no way for them to win as soon as they start changing things. It's the reason Chrono Trigger DS is just an (really good) enhanced port.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
there isnt a single game that does the new modern open world that has the feeling of traversing the planet. witcher 3 has a fantastic world, but its just 3 areas part of 2 countries. Dragon Age has plenty of cool varied areas, but you are just dropping in and out of locations in part of 2 countries. They could plot those on a large world map and you still wouldnt get the feeling of traversing a planet like a classic world map gives you. Nothing conveys that feeling like the old world maps do, and then that feeling once you get access tot he airship is just amazing.M°°nblade;188291123 said:
What a mean thing to think hahah! What's your personal opinion on the episodic/multi-part format?
..and we have no idea why, correct?
UberTag
Member
Pretty much. Plus if that's all they were going for, they'd outsource it to China, release it on mobile and call it a day.
Someone hasn't been playing Xenoblade Chronicles X, I see.
Hey guys...
Remember that classic RPG that introduced allot of you to RPGs?
We are completly changing the entire scope!
???
BTW, because we decided to change the gameplay and presentation it is now too massive to actually make, so we are splitting it up into god knows how many pieces!
Please be excited.
So you simply want a HD Remaster?
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I think the humor comes from the psudo-Schadenfreude.
Pre Episodic News: "HAH! Suck it turn-based ninnys! Action is the future so just bend over and take it, chumps!"**
Post Episodic News: "WTF is this bullshit Square?? I ain't bending over for this crap!"**
**Not actual quotes, just hyper escalated perception of what some of the discussion has been.
AstroNut325
Member
Thank you. I'm excited. If I just want to play the old game, I'll just spend $10 on Steam and get it.
Everything I've seen or heard of FF7R sounds great. Including episodic content.
Fixed?
So it's a Remake vs Remaster argument?
I thought that had been settled already...
And I also thought that's what the Mod Community was for.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I think they're saying that the game itself is too big to do at once so they're splitting it. But because they're splitting it they may as well take advantage and add more content to pad the releases into full games.
I mean, I will still buy the fuck out of whatever it is sure. Its just weird that they have chosen to do it this way when 99% of people would of been happy with a simple remaster.
And what about Xenblade? Haven't played it though.
People have to accept that you can't translate everything from the original FFVII into a modern game. Some things will be get cut while a lot of other things will be added, some things will be worse while other things will be improved and you can only hope the net result will be a game as good as FFVII was back in 1996. But FFXVII RE is a new game that should be compared against the standards of today and not judged how much it resembles the original FFVII.
entremet
Member
You mean simple remake? The PC and PS4 already have a remaster out.
99% of the existing fanbase.
freikugeln
Member
I understand the reasoning but this could easily backfire for them.
The first part will obviously cash over nostalgia and hype and sell millions. That said it's not easy to keep it up for the sequels which will probably come like a year apart. Especially if they don't get everything right with the first one ...
The first part will obviously cash over nostalgia and hype and sell millions. That said it's not easy to keep it up for the sequels which will probably come like a year apart. Especially if they don't get everything right with the first one ...
hemo memo
Gold Member
If a game like Fallout 4 get released in 1 package I don't care what Square Enix excuse for episodic FFVII remake because it's too massive.
Arn't those just ports of the PS1 game?
Paradoxmoose
Banned
I was upset with the combat change, and a noticeable fraction of those who were pleased were essentially 'sore winners', gloating that they were happy with the change, and those of us who liked the old version can keep playing the old, dated, version. So yes, I feel some schadenfreude, if they had been pleasant, perhaps I would not.
As long as there is sufficient content at a reasonable price point, I am fine with getting it in periodic releases. If the process is used as a tool to skew up income disproportionately relative to the amount of work that is done, I would find that to be a problem.
entremet
Member
Remaster usually means a resolution bump, which they both are.
They also have nice additions--3x speed increase, level toggle, random battle switch.
This is what worries me..
How to keep the spirit of the OG yet modernize the gameplay.
What a seriously daunting task.
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If it was up to me and the tech allowed, I'd take the chicken shit way out and give players the option of both.
Mechanized
Member
And nobody else cares because the Square brand means nothing at this point.
Sure we do. Xbox One bombed in Japan and Type-0 sold a pitiful amount on it in the west.
entremet
Member
Type 0 was garbage to be fair.
XV is still coming to the platform.
I wouldn't focus on the sales of an old up port of a mediocre title.
So that would mean it's up to the boys and girls at MS to decide if they want to gamble on it?
On the other hand, a lot of people were crying and melting down calling those who were happy with the changes not "real" fans of FF7, or fake fans who are dude bros who can't take the nuance and intelligence of turn based systems.
So yeah, on either side, there's idiots. Let's just ignore them and talk like civilized people instead of being petty.
freikugeln
Member
They have enough trouble designing one battle system if they had two they would probably half ass them both considering the time and effort required.
Silver-tongued
Banned
That's because the jRPG tradition of traveling the entire planet, which turns out to be an absolutely tiny area with a world population of maybe a 100 people, is absurd if you stop to think about it. Western RPG's have always focused on smaller regions, because that's more believable and because it lends itself better to more low-key stories. It's a different design philosophy.
The Silver
Member
It's funny how in some ways old ass games are actually more ambitious and bigger in scope than modern games. Only in video games can something like this happen, of course it's only in video games where evolving technology has such a massive impact on the product.
Zomba13
Member
I see your point but I'm hoping for fidelity like Witcher 3 or even FFXV to match trailer graphics.
I don't see highwind gameplay possible in this circumstance.
But that is silly. The FFVII world map wasn't to actual scale. If you want that fidelity then you want an actual world which will never happen. If you want a pretty looking FFVII world map then that is easily doable (see Type-0 for the PSP level version). Just make it a pretty miniture world and let cloud walk/drive/fly through it and have the cities be miniture versions just like in FFVII. If we have full The Witcher 3 style world then it just seems silly. Either you get a full sized world that feels very very small or you have a very very small world that feels big.
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
I don't really see the problem. Granted I'm not a huge FF7 fan so my emotions aren't so innately entwined, but I can't see any downside to releasing it in parts.