Sir_Crocodile
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129580
This was not exclusive to gaf either, the vitriol was everywhere
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Halo 5 Review Thread
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129580
This was not exclusive to gaf either, the vitriol was everywhere
Lol at this. Surely GAF is better than this no?
Are Halo's standards so high that an 85 metascore, dragged down by 4-5 mixed reviews is deemed a failure?
Holy shit, with this info I'm surprised this score as much as it did.
Wait, there's only like 4-5 mixed reviews?
If that's true that's such a shame. It's why I hate metacritic.
this is dumb solely because halogaf and the fanbase in general has never been hesitant towards claiming that a halo game sucks
Missing what?
This is a joke post right? RIGHT!?!?
I can't tell anymore... Halo threads are the best threads...
[Call-Me-G]
Banned
For me, 6H30 in Normal Mode.
I'm now playing the game in Legendary. 6H30... For Mission 1 to 7!
I should have played it in Heroic. D*mmit.
ethomaz
Banned
What did you call mixed reviews?
10 reviews > 90
5 reviews < 80
34 reviews between 80-90
Most reviews are in the 8x line... that is why the avg. is 85... if you remove the 4 best scores and 4 worst scores the avg. will continue to be near 85.
There is nothing wrong with Metacritic about that.
This is by the the most console warrior and fanboy bullshit I've read to date on Neogaf.
Congrats.
I guess I would consider mixed under 80.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Are you sure about that? How long have you been on GAF because I've seen a ton worse.
This is such a smug douchy comment. Pot calling the kettle black and you're obviously the one with coping problem
Only about a year I think. I think my 1 year is in a few months.
Can't be too sure though, it's all a blur and I'm on mobile right now. Not sure how to check.
Even numbers always look better imo
I cringed earlier when I heard someone called 85 a nice "even" #
I have this feeling ign is going to give it a 8 or something controversial like a 7.9
ethomaz
Banned
So you don't thing the four sub 80 scores fair but the two 100 scores are fine?
tattooed_dwarf
Member
Do you guys think we get any launch numbers from MS or 343i soon?
Which will discredit them more in light of their 9.8 and 9 scores of Halo 4 and MCC respectively, granted that single player is definitely the biggest factor in their review scores.
My bet is 1.25 million in the first few days at the minimum, max 2 million.
ethomaz
Banned
I don't thing this time we will get raw numbers like previous Halo... just something about revenue.
They're all fair, I just think it sucks to have such good reviews to be dragged down by a few low scores.
I guess mixed would be 70 or lower now that I think of it. High 70s is still pretty good.
What do you think? They'll use shipped numbers, and it'll be astronomical.
Everyone gave MCC high scoresbased on nostalgia and before trying multiplayer, everyone knows that game should have got 7's just because it was half broken (if they dropped mp all together I would give it 9.5)
justsomeguy
Member
7 is generous.
Agreed, the SPs were great.
Didn't IGN delay their review till post release and still give it a 9 though?
tattooed_dwarf
Member
Nah, I want to know how many ground pounded grunts have been killed or how many suicides happened by badly thrown grenades.
True all the bugs and such would drop it to a 5
Which is a shame because it had 4 great games on there
As far a website called 'reclaimerhub' giving it a 9/10, seems a little bias. Would be like me starting a blog site called 'courtoforyx' and giving Destiny 2 a 9/10
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Score just dropped down again to 84. Yikes.
ethomaz
Banned
For me it was unacceptable because it was key feature of the game.
To be fair these are the unacepatable launch games in my book (this gen):
- Battlefield 4
- DriveClub
- Assassins Creed last year
- MCC
These game were utter broke at launch and months after...
This game is so much better than halo 4 and mcc is makes me nauseous.
ethomaz
Banned
EightBitNate
Member
Those are like the 5 biggest in my mind lol
Ah! Yeah that could be super fun. It might be a Waypoint thing in the future...
Idk I was getting into matches of battlefield 4 by connecting to European servers instead of US servers, but then again I didn't get an Xbox one until the week of thanksgivings. I also didn't encounter the deleted save issue so maybe I'm a special case and I won't argue that list with you.
I got MCC when it was $20, and it was the best $20 game I ever played lol, but yeah MP still didn't work for me at the time and doing co cop was a mess
When you click the link it says 85
Unmoses
Member
Just adding to the repetition:
Aggregate scoring in the case of metacritic is fairly arbitrary. If metacritic as a system provided an overarching guideline to reviews with systematic weights to various points (story, gfx, control, replay value, length, what have you) and offered to reviewers, there would still be inherent bias included, but the values would be more normalized. On top of that, personal enjoyment (just like book and movie reviews) vs reviewer enjoyment is again disjointed. What metacritic can provide, in large pools of points, is a general trend as to whether a game is a shitshow or well crafted, but the nuanced discussion over individual points and ratings has to be taken on a game by game basis, and not across games. As others have alluded to, excitement, expectations, rushed reviews, personal bias and preference all provide variation.
Having said all that, inflated ratings and the requirement to be "> 90 on metacritic" is a bit ludicrous to me. And I say this not as a Halo lover, but in general. Wasteland 2 has been incredibly enjoyable, and I've put in a ton of time into it. 80 points when reading general trends on here makes it seem like a failure.
Aggregate scoring in the case of metacritic is fairly arbitrary. If metacritic as a system provided an overarching guideline to reviews with systematic weights to various points (story, gfx, control, replay value, length, what have you) and offered to reviewers, there would still be inherent bias included, but the values would be more normalized. On top of that, personal enjoyment (just like book and movie reviews) vs reviewer enjoyment is again disjointed. What metacritic can provide, in large pools of points, is a general trend as to whether a game is a shitshow or well crafted, but the nuanced discussion over individual points and ratings has to be taken on a game by game basis, and not across games. As others have alluded to, excitement, expectations, rushed reviews, personal bias and preference all provide variation.
Having said all that, inflated ratings and the requirement to be "> 90 on metacritic" is a bit ludicrous to me. And I say this not as a Halo lover, but in general. Wasteland 2 has been incredibly enjoyable, and I've put in a ton of time into it. 80 points when reading general trends on here makes it seem like a failure.
Apollo Cree
Member
That FPS fatigue is real.
Not with halo 5s mp. So fresh.
Really was worried they'd mess up the mp again but they nailed it. Best its felt since 2 for me.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
Only reason I'm not buying this full price is my disappointment after MCC. I couldn't play MP almost at all for first 6 months, I played under 10 games in that time. I tried after every patch for hours. And after that, I couldn't get refund from MS and I was foolish to buy this game digitally. I know Halo 5 doesn't suffer from same problems, but this is only way I can show my disappointment.
SensibleSucker
Member
I didn't think Eurogamer were on metacritic anymore.
And no numerical score will change that
Kudo
Member
Solo campaign only 4 hours and they really decided to drop split-screen for this? Looking at reviews saying the story moves nowhere I guess it's pretty safe to skip this for now, never played Halo for online multiplayer.
Gameplay looks fun though, I'm sure people who enjoy some online will have a blast, I'll have to do with Destiny for now.
Gameplay looks fun though, I'm sure people who enjoy some online will have a blast, I'll have to do with Destiny for now.
No, it isn't. And it hasn't been for a long, long time now.
Yea, I mean... there was serversurfer not too long back... and he was definitely up there.
EDIT: Oh wow... there's still serversurfer actually. Must have been temp.
privitsan02
Member
Jesus... That's far from Halo standards. It's not even a spin-off.