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Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)

cyen

cyen

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At first i didnt really payed attention but after some tests and other users reports it seems that 970 is really gimped (or a driver problem dunno)

taken from overclock.net:

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the last ~700MB are really gimped.
 
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teiresias

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So glad I have a 980 now. Between the coil whine and the memory issues it seems the 970 is a bit of a crap shoot right now. This seems really odd though, why increase the BOM with DRAM the core can't access properly. Seems like a bug.
 
cyen

cyen

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Objectively Bad Opinion said:
Sometimes it really is too good to be true.

Though, maybe not that big a deal. Nvidia should just sell it as a 3GB card.
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If it´s really a hardware limitation because of the cut down TMU nvidia should address that ASAP.

Personally im a little bothered even though i bought the card only as stop gap until GM200\390X.
 
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Sax Russel

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Yeah I get similar results running that test, though my last chunk comes in at a whopping ~6.5 GB/s.

In some random testing (AC: Unity) it definitely did not want to climb over ~3500 usage at 1080p with FXAA. If I bumped it up to 8xMSAA, it would get up to 3950 max with fps in the mid 20s. While that Nai benchmark does show me the last bit is pretty gimped, it didn't seem like my fps was lower than it should be in that one scenario.

I do hope this picks up steam though, I'd love an official response.
 
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Wortany

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Damn, this is disturbing news. I hadn't really maxed memory usage in a game yet so I didn't notice before, but my MSI GTX 970 seems to have the same issue after testing.

I'm atleast glad, Nvidia is looking into it. Let's hope they find something software-related.
 
Xdrive05

Xdrive05

Member
Wortany said:
Damn, this is disturbing news. I hadn't really maxed memory usage in a game yet so I didn't notice before, but my MSI GTX 970 seems to have the same issue after testing.

I'm atleast glad, Nvidia is looking into it. Let's hope they find something software-related.
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if it does turn out to be hardware related, first thing what the fuck? Second thing, they will pretty much have to do some kind of goodwill gesture. Free games or something.

If I sold you a v8 engine that would only rev beyond 1200 RPMs if you were using six or less of the cylinders, should I be able to get away with it on the technicality that it is technically a v8 as advertised?
 
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Dictator93

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Wortany said:
Damn, this is disturbing news. I hadn't really maxed memory usage in a game yet so I didn't notice before, but my MSI GTX 970 seems to have the same issue after testing.

I'm atleast glad, Nvidia is looking into it. Let's hope they find something software-related.
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Did they post that they are looking into it?
 
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mugurumakensei

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BoboBrazil said:
Can a 970 run games fine at 4k? I have a i7 3770 and 12gb ram.
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Which games? I can run Evil Within at 4k with no problems. AC: Unity performs decently at 4k with drops to low 20s in certain situations. DA: I same as AC: Unity. Games that are last gen perform great at 4k. MGS: GZ runs around 40-50 fps at 4k.
 
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BoboBrazil

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mugurumakensei said:
Which games? I can run Evil Within at 4k with no problems. AC: Unity performs decently at 4k with drops to low 20s in certain situations. DA: I same as AC: Unity. Games that are last gen perform great at 4k. MGS: GZ runs around 40-50 fps at 4k.
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Ok awesome! I'm good as long as I could do 30fps or above in most situations! Thanks. I have my 970 and 4k monitor on the way now.
 
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mugurumakensei

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BoboBrazil said:
Ok awesome! I'm good as long as I could do 30fps or above in most situations! Thanks. I have my 970 and 4k monitor on the way now.
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If you restrict yourself to like 2+ year old games, you can run 4k on most of those games at 60fps. Newer games are going to be on the side of 30fps with drops into the 20s unless you have 2 970s in SLI though that introduces micro-stuttering which is more annoying to me.
 
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BoboBrazil

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mugurumakensei said:
If you restrict yourself to like 2+ year old games, you can run 4k on most of those games at 60fps. Newer games are going to be on the side of 30fps with drops into the 20s unless you have 2 970s in SLI though that introduces micro-stuttering which is more annoying to me.
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How does it perform 1440p? I could also game at that resolution too on it I guess or even 1080p if needed.
 
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mugurumakensei

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BoboBrazil said:
How does it perform 1440p? I could also game at that resolution too on it I guess or even 1080p if needed.
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I can provide only a general assessment. Which games are you intending to play? What texture settings, shadow detail settings, etc do you intend to play at? Those matter as performance is a game by game basis. Obviously dropping the resolution will typically improve performance if the bottleneck is vram. I don't know what games you intend to play so no definitive answer.
 
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BoboBrazil

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mugurumakensei said:
I can provide only a general assessment. Which games are you intending to play? What texture settings, shadow detail settings, etc do you intend to play at? Those matter as performance is a game by game basis. Obviously dropping the resolution will typically improve performance if the bottleneck is vram. I don't know what games you intend to play so no definitive answer.
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Maybe Advanced Warfare, Telltale Games, Battlefield, Ryse, and stuff like that.
 
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mugurumakensei

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BoboBrazil said:
Maybe Advanced Warfare, Telltale Games, Battlefield, Ryse, and stuff like that.
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Ah okay... Advanced Warfare you should be able to do 4k pretty well along with tell tale games. Battlefield I cant say 4k with confidence but 1440p should be 60fps. Ryse is intense. You'll probably be able to do 1440p if you drop the texture detail or anti-aliasing.
 
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Piercedveil

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Is there anyway I can use DSR without it messing up my second monitor? For example, if I'm downsampling from 4k to my primary 1080p monitor, the windows I have open on my secondary 1080p monitor get pushed off the screen. My desktop also gets "stretched" on my other monitor. I'm assuming there is a way to fix this that I have overlooked. Any help?
 
jfoul

jfoul

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Well, this memory issue actually being the real deal is disturbing. I just bought the 970 FTW+ to replace my Gigabyte G1.

How could Nvidia miss this issue before releasing the card? If this issue can't be fixed through drivers or firmware, Nvidia will need to possibly recall the cards. This will put the board vendors under heavy fire.

I'm at least in good hands with EVGA.
 
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icecold1983

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BoboBrazil said:
How does it perform 1440p? I could also game at that resolution too on it I guess or even 1080p if needed.
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at 1440p:

advanced warfare - 60 fps maxed w/ no ssaa
bf4 - 60 fps mostly with deferred msaa off, but you will have drops in MP if you keep effects quality at ultra
ryse - 30 fps lock is your best bet
telltale games - no idea
 
Pakoe

Pakoe

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Xdrive05 said:
if it does turn out to be hardware related, first thing what the fuck? Second thing, they will pretty much have to do some kind of goodwill gesture. Free games or something.

If I sold you a v8 engine that would only rev beyond 1200 RPMs if you were using six or less of the cylinders, should I be able to get away with it on the technicality that it is technically a v8 as advertised?
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Free games? Fuck that, i want the card i bought.
This fucking sucks, i don't even know if i can still return it.
 
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garath

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jfoul said:
Well, this memory issue actually being the real deal is disturbing. I just bought the 970 FTW+ to replace my Gigabyte G1.

How could Nvidia miss this issue before releasing the card? If this issue can't be fixed through drivers or firmware, Nvidia will need to possibly recall the cards. This will put the board vendors under heavy fire.

I'm at least in good hands with EVGA.
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Yeah. I feel pretty confident that EVGA will take care of its customers.

I have the FTW and am in queue for the FTW+ (probably for another few weeks lol).
 
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pestul

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Pakoe said:
Free games? Fuck that, i want the card i bought.
This fucking sucks, i don't even know if i can still return it.
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If it's hardware.. the only goodwill gesture they could offer is a very very cheap upgrade program to the GTX980. Like $50.
 
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robotrock

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I literally just sold my GTX 680 yesterday and was planning to pick up a 970 ASAP. Oh well! I guess I'll be on my old GTX 465 for a few more months.
 
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pestul

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Honey Bunny said:
Sounds like wishful thinking. I'd very much like to believe you though
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There's nothing to believe here, it is just wishful thinking. I'm guessing there will just be some backpeddling if h/w related. We can only hope that many of the tech sites take up this story soon.
 
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Unknown Soldier

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Barzul said:
So am I better off going with an R9 290x over the 970?
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That depends on how important drivers are to you.

With the whole 970 memory thing still under investigation, it seems silly to jump to conclusions and buy one thing or the other based on something which is still unclear. If you're concerned, wait and see what Nvidia finds out and says.
 
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R0nn

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So I bought a 970 a couple of days ago.

Very nice upgrade over my 7850.

But now I suddenly experience tearing in quite a few games where I didn't have it before, even though vsync is turned on.

What gives?
 
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Kayant

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R0nn said:
So I bought a 970 a couple of days ago.

Very nice upgrade over my 7850.

But now I suddenly experience tearing in quite a few games where I didn't have it before, even though vsync is turned on.

What gives?
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Have you tried triple buffering + Adaptive V-Sync?
 
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