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Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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So far 3 eyewitnesses have come forward. All with the same story. Brown was surrendering with hands in the air and was gunned down.

Don't let whether Brown is a good or bad guy or whatever change the facts that we have at this point.

As though "this dude shoved a dude once" is enough to make someone a "bad guy" anyway.

But the way I see it that footage of Brown is relevant because it makes claims the officer received some kind of "facial injury" more credible.

That's tremendously prejudicial though. One incident hardly establishes a pattern of behavior.
 
Legitimately teared up reading that.

You aren't the only one.

That statement isn't just a show of solidarity. They've demonstrated that they understand the issue from it's core. It's something that would go a long way in actually fixing the disparity between blacks and everyone else in the US, but a conversation in the terms that are highlighted in that letter will never happen.

Why do you suppose that is?

I already know the answer.
 
Surely that shop was one of the places people looted in the early days of the crisis, right?

I wonder if the employees have been threatened.
 
None of this matters to the main part of the case, which is him shooting Brown while Brown runs away. And then apparently shooting him several times after he has surrendered.



Bing bang boom. You arrested two of us? You tear gassed a news crew? You're going down. That's how the media is looking at it. They straight up ignored that robbery shit and put it on blast immediately. I don't see them playing ball with what the police give them whatsoever. They want heads.

Seriously they did? Haven't been able to read or see any news since around noon today. They didn't get fooled by it and stayed on what was on important?
 
So is it true that the kid robbed a store or is it likely just police covering their butts?

It's true that he robbed a store (or at least stole something, lawyers can determine whether it's larceny/robbery/burglary whatever).

It's also true that it's immaterial to the fact that a policeman shot an unarmed, wounded, surrendering person who posed no threat.
 
How did the media not get fooled? They've shown that video nonstop since it was made available.

From my point of view, most of the media have been playing up the angle that the officer who engaged and murdered Brown didn't know about the robbery. Mind you, I haven't been checking the TV significantly. Just online news sites.
 
Ugh fucking ferguson police chief strategy of dehumanizing a black man is already working. My dad's girlfriend tonight was talking about how this thug was engaged in an armed robbery and that's why they were trying to take him down. I snapped back and corrected her that he wasn't armed and the police officer didn't even know about it.
 
I'm actually surprised the police admitted that the officer knew nothing about the shoplifting, since they decided to use that to smear Brown. I guess there's an easy way to disprove that he knew, through police radio logs or something?

And man, if anything this should show people how utterly full of shit Anonymous is. You could argue that they were putting an innocent at risk to force the police's hand, but they were claiming accuracy when they've failed so often at that.
 
From my point of view, most of the media have been playing up the angle that the officer who engaged and murdered Brown didn't know about the robbery. Mind you, I haven't been checking the TV significantly. Just online news sites.

Well, there's no reason not to. Despite the later backpedaling, in the first afternoon Q&A, the chief was crystal clear in his assertion that the robbery and shooting weren't related. A couple of journalists were emphatically asking for clarification as if to pound home the question: "Are you sure you understand what you're saying?" I'm paraphrasing now, but I think one question was "let me get this straight: Officer Wilson DIDN'T know that he was a suspect in a robbery? Then what lead him the confrontation?"

It almost seemed like the chief realized "woah, I goofed here, didn't I." Are maybe that's just his natural "I don't know what I'm doing and am in way over my head here" state. Either way, despite the gravitas of what he was saying (I.e. all indications seemed to be heading towards establishing that Brown was known to have committed a crime and that -- and not simply Walking While Black -- was the reason he was confronted), he stuck with it and reiterated that the incidents weren't related.
 
And man, if anything this should show people how utterly full of shit Anonymous is. You could argue that they were putting an innocent at risk to force the police's hand, but they were claiming accuracy when they've failed so often at that.

I believe Anonymous is more of an "everyman" thing than an actual organization; it's the Wikipedia of activist groups - cool and good when it's right, but "lol Wikipedia" when it's not.
 
Nothing like that has ever happened to the best of my knowledge, thank god. It's mostly the paranoid part of me coming out, truth be told.

That being said, anything could happen at this point and I wouldn't be surprised. I don't like that feeling.

As a very smart reporter and author said, How can the police ask eye witnesses to come forward with information and even testify publicly when they often hide the identity of their own for fear of retaliation. How can I trust an officer to keep me safe against threats of violence if they themselves respond to the threat of threats of violence with cowardice, silence, and anonymity.
 
MSNBC was on at the gym just now.

Maddow was going over the Johnson press conference earlier today. Apparently he brought in protestors, and then answered questions directed at them. The media got pissed he wasnt speaking into their mics, and he told the media that the community was more important.

Nice dude. Would promote.
 
Ugh fucking ferguson police chief strategy of dehumanizing a black man is already working. My dad's girlfriend tonight was talking about how this thug was engaged in an armed robbery and that's why they were trying to take him down. I snapped back and corrected her that he wasn't armed and the police officer didn't even know about it.

Yup. My dad is on the same theme tonight. All of a sudden this kid was an aggressive thug who "beat up" a "90 pound" shop owner and that's why he got shot. Ugh.
 
As a very smart reporter and author said, How can the police ask eye witnesses to come forward with information and even testify publicly when they often hide the identity of their own for fear of retaliation. How can I trust an officer to keep me safe against threats of violence if they themselves respond to the threat of threats of violence with cowardice, silence, and anonymity.
Damn that's some truth.

... Don't know what they're afraid of though, they have an MRAP.
 
We are on the Internet. Link it.

The tweet is literally asking the same question I am. There's no point in linking it's not a source and the person who tweeted it has yet to link a source. It did prompt me to ask the question in this thread since you guys have been on top of your shit as far as news is concerned with this. Just asking a humble question not making any allegations.
 
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