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Infamous: Second Son Review Thread
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Nothing but it then causes people to look at scores of 8+ as 'bad' somehow.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Shenmue was. Halo was. COD4 in a MP environment was.
Nothing.
The reviews I've read justified their reaction by describing ways it feels structurally so similar to the previous games, and it misses story and combat opportunities (in addition to some open-world faux-pas). "Diminishing returns" is a loaded word around here, but I think that's describes it. Plenty of series see that same reaction, and I don't think it's necessarily unfair.
That being said, when the review average of a game is still in the 80s, that's hardly something to sneeze at.
Unfortunately the average person doesn't understand "math" and doesn't realize it takes many many more 9 and 10 reviews to raise a game's metacritic average from 81 to say, 85.
LookAtMeGo
Member
The game has got amazing reviews.
Because it introduced QTE's something that spawned new genres out of it.
Because it created a new genre.
I feel like some people are going to be disappointed when they realize that nothing like this exists.
schwabdizzle
Banned
I am curious how a fan of Infamous would of scored it or at least ranked it amongst InFamous games.
That just made me spit orange juice down my white t-shirt, touche.
Stare-Bear
Banned
Was it really necessary for Adam Sessler to tell us about the footage restrictions SP and Sony had applied for reviewers? Doesn't every game have some sort of footage restriction? Or am I just seeing things?
I do find his gameplay comments to be unusual to say the least. Infamous 1 and especially Infamous 2 had amazing gameplay! Fluid and responsive! I don't understand how you can say that it's a bad thing if Infamous 3 has exactly the same gameplay.
I do find his gameplay comments to be unusual to say the least. Infamous 1 and especially Infamous 2 had amazing gameplay! Fluid and responsive! I don't understand how you can say that it's a bad thing if Infamous 3 has exactly the same gameplay.
Many in the OT thread say it's easily the best inFamous game.
Implying there is not already an SP story to play through as the EXTRA content is released.
Implying it is more logical to wait until the definitive edition comes out on PS5 to get the most full-featured version.
Your argument doesn't make much sense
You mean like Halo brought in regenerating health?, i know which game mechanic i prefered as well!.
EDIT. Also Shenmue didn't invent qte's, they had been around since Dragons Lair days, the Sega CD was built on qte's.
jacksepticeye
Member
Maybe it does and maybe it doesn't. We never really know until we see it.
Most of GAF that got the game early....have already beat the game and have given their oppinions. I beat the game 5 days ago....people were done with the game LAST FRIDAY.
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The Everyman
maybe he didnt enjoy 1 and 2 that much? I thought i1s gameplay was kinda boring personally.
BigSpleenAttack
Banned
Yep, other the the sheer scale, GTA game are grossly overrated, heck until v the shooting mechanics were garbage,.
Are you reading the same thread as I do? This started as a review thread 38 pages after and it reads more like a meltdown thread. Look at the front page of GAF, there are like 2 or 3 threads of "next gen gameplay".
Allonym
There should be more tampons in gaming
Please stop, Sony has created more new ips than either Nintendo or Microsoft while still supporting many of its established franchises. They don't continue to dole out sequel after sequel and honstly I wonder would you still have the same position in regards to classifying Sucker Punch/Guerrilla as "tech studios" (and honestly it wasn't until recently could that be said about SP) were their games scored higher.
There's a double standard deeply ingrained into many of these gaming publications, certain franchises are faulted for being more of the same yet other, the more popular ones, recycle their same old formulas and are released on a annual or biannual basis yet these same criticism isn't raised against them. Madden, CoD, BF, AC are all blatantly guilty of this yet they still score higher and aren't as heavily scrutinized as alot of Sony exclusives.
I'll admit KZSF was disappointing in the advent of KZ2/3 but as someone else said it's sad how criminally underrated those games were considering how they weren't derivatives of some other title and had novel ideas, gameplay and mechanics.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
That so? Huh... didn't knew that. I stand corrected on the subject of QTE being revolutionary then. Not about how shenmue created an entire new genre though.
Domcorleone
Member
does the game trailers review spoil the powers in the game or is it safe to watch?
Gameplay doesn't change simply because a new generation begins. It changes slowly over time regardless. Sure, more power allows for more to be done in a game, but simply because the power exists doesn't mean developers are instantly going to make games differently. Next gen games should be scored based on other games that are coming out in the same time frame, not some random ideal of what you want video games to become. They'll get there, but it's not going to happen over night. I was kind of annoyed by how often the lower scored reviews complained about how the gameplay didn't "feel next gen". Reminds me of the early Vita reviews when critics were complaining that handheld titles weren't as involved as console titles. Well, duh. People are just setting their expectations too high and getting upset when they aren't met. That's not Sucker Punch's fault. Lower your expectations to a reasonable level, and you'll be much happier as a gamer.
The shooting mechanics in GTAV are still garbage. And the mechanics to do pretty much everything else, too.
badgerfan20945
Member
Well I did see someone post Titanfall >>>>>> Infamous in one and something about Sessler giving Titanfall 5/5 and etc. Give me time and i'll find others. I'm too busy watching basketball to see if i'll win a billion dollars.
There is nothing that can be done now that couldn't be done last gen except 1080p gaming on consoles. Yes, scratching scratchies with the DS4 touch pad In Rayman is a clever idea, but it isn't next gen, and we won't see anything that could be described as such until VR takes off. The only real benefits of this new generation are console features like suspend/resume, Twitch streaming and Snap.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I wound not say garbage myself but they were not as good as I was excepting.
It's safe. Bloodworth was posting in the OT and said he followed the spoiler guidelines very closely. I think he said if you've been paying attention to the basic info released by Sucker Punch thus far, you won't find anything spoilery in it.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
I do not understand any review for this below a 7.
Makes literally no sense.
Most review scores for this seem reasonable though. Should be higher IMO.
Makes literally no sense.
Most review scores for this seem reasonable though. Should be higher IMO.
Scrolling through the review scores, I expected people to be celebrating. 9.5 from Destructoid, 4/5 from Giantbomb, generally in the 8.5-9 range for most of the outlets people read, and very few low scores. For anyone who's a fan and genuinely appreciate what the series brings to the table, I would see these scores as pure validation.
I'n actually a little surprised the Metacritic score isn't somewhat higher, I guess because of how I intuitively weighted the reviews, but 81 is still very good. I'm more surprised by the turn this thread has taken. Nitpicking negative opinions, comparisons to Titanfall, bemoaning the reviews are under expectations... I was naive to expect all that much celebration.
I'n actually a little surprised the Metacritic score isn't somewhat higher, I guess because of how I intuitively weighted the reviews, but 81 is still very good. I'm more surprised by the turn this thread has taken. Nitpicking negative opinions, comparisons to Titanfall, bemoaning the reviews are under expectations... I was naive to expect all that much celebration.
badgerfan20945
Member
Who did I call out?
Shenmue was a graphic adventure with an extra layer of interaction.
Some are and some aren't I don't think you can make a blanket statement about all of them being repetitive. 40 hours is a reasonable expectation for a $70 game. A game with anything less I will buy when the game is discounted thank you very much.
swazzyswess
Member
"Follow the waypoint marker, chase the suspect, investigate the scene, wipe out the jackboots; hunt the collectables and tick the boxes. You've been here many times before." From Eurogamer. This is what I was worried about. I'm really tired of this formula for open world games.
"I DONT LIKE YOUR FAVORITE GAME AND YOU DONT LIKE MY FAVORITE GAME"
both games were revolutionary for their respective genres, but shenmue was going to be a saturn game, and id imagine game-play wise it would have very little differences with what we got, the fps genre as a whole really benefited from ps2/gc/xbox hardware but the regenerating health isnt "next gen gameplay" that mechanic is entirely possible on every console before the xbox too.
I'm willing to bet that the majority of games we get this gen from a gameplay standpoint will be possible on the ps3 and 360, we are well past power limiting gameplay for the most part. remeber for the most part, from a gameplay standpoint, most ps3 360 games are possible on a ps2, xbox, gamecube/wii. I'd argue only physics heavy games outstrip the capability of the ps2 gen. I can only really see games with more physics and good graphics + VR being considered "next gen gameplay" for the most part it will be the same with better graphics.
Keyser Soze
Member
This thread is.... ennnn... grah
Halo felt crazy fresh back then. Jumping in a Warthog with a friend in the gunners seat and ripping around that planet was golden.