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True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st
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Yeah the feel and mood of the whole thing followed directly from the specific story being told. They've got a ton of flexibility to make it look and feel however the next story needs.
You are not Cornballer :0
I'm aware. Not talking about the king in yellow.
The Artful Dodger
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He said they'll keep the metaphysical weirdness of it. I think the show will still be minimalist and tense, but it will have a different feel, and atmosphere depending on the story. If that makes sense.
i marathoned the entire s1 today - right up to watching the conclusion tonight
Gotta say - absolutely fantastic show. Love the bro chemistry between the two.
Still think this is the best scene I have watched in tv for a while:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmhS_IYnjcA
Gotta say - absolutely fantastic show. Love the bro chemistry between the two.
Still think this is the best scene I have watched in tv for a while:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmhS_IYnjcA
AHS's 3 seasons, while having elements in common, all have very different styles- S3 had a dream/drug-induced state feeling to it, while S2 was so incredibly bleak and dark.
DiscoJer
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I was reading a horror anthology called The Weird (edited by Ann and Jeff VandeMeer) which features a lot of very good but sometimes obscure horror stories.
One of them was a story (Far Below by Robert Barbour Johnson) about the "real" goings on of the New York subway system. Apparently it was voted the best story ever in a Weird Tales poll.
WyndhamPrice
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Even American Horror Story looks and feels similarly year to year despite changing everything.
The show isn't going to ditch its established visual style, it's too integral to why the show works so well. The palate may change (Pizzolatto has said as much since they'll be moving away from Louisiana) but it's going to still look like True Detective.
James Woods
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"And he's not a pig-man, is he?"
"No he's not. He's just a fat little mental patient."
Errol wasn't the Yellow King.
"No he's not. He's just a fat little mental patient."
Errol wasn't the Yellow King.
The song at the end of the episode was an original composition by T-Bone Burnett, the series composer.
Here it is:
"The Angry River" by The Hat ft. Father John Misty & S.I. Istwa
Here it is:
"The Angry River" by The Hat ft. Father John Misty & S.I. Istwa
No idea who cornballer is
And rusts interrogating Guy Francis before he killed himself made the killer and the yellow king to be separate
Not sure what you're looking for then. It's something Errol latched onto, possibly to make sense of the ritualistic abuse he suffered (and perpetrated).
Oh, wow. I hope you're around for future seasons, because that an amazing piece of info you just gave us. (assuming that we're not being trolled by Pizzolatto)From Wikipedia:
This is if you believe the king in yellow is a book in the shows universe which pizza said it isn't.
The Artful Dodger
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Watching the Inside the Episode.
I was right, Errol wanted the detectives to find him.
Hooray!
I was right, Errol wanted the detectives to find him.
Hooray!
That was fantastic. I was expecting a darker sort of ending, but it's also refreshing that it didn't try to go out of its way to be edgy and gritter at the end. The show is pretty dark as it is, showing the dark corners of society and how evil can be the result of just crazy people who believe in really crazy shit. Going for the "life goes on, but the darkness continues to exist and you have to live with it" conclusion does redeem Cohle in a way where it doesn't exonerate him from his philosophy and lifestyle. That was definitely an interesting and unexpected choice. I liked it a lot. It shows that as a person, he's still rather fucked up and at odds with accepting how the world is, but he has decided to continue giving it a try. I'm completely satisfied with how they decided to end the story.
So why didn't he stop his family from covering up his crime?
real_slime
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or Errol is this week's devil and he'll be back next week in season 2
equally terrifying
The Artful Dodger
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Why wasn't Reggie Ledoux wearing a shirt when they found him? Some questions just don't have answers brah.
Gaf_SentMe
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Wow! I have not felt that tensed since Silence of the Lambs. Remarkable television. Ahh. So so good.
Soyongdori
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The ending is bittersweet. They got the killer, but he wasn't responsible for all the child sacrifices. I was hoping this show would reveal the cultists.
Eh, that's not really fair. The family went to great lengths to cover up his crime. If he really wanted to be found out, and you subscribe to the idea that he was so evil and bad he kept the family in line....
Doesn't add up to me. *shrugs*
Although I guess it does make sense as to why he put Lange on display. But then I don't really think that the family would be for this, or would be apart of his wanting to be "found". Personally.
Me too.
Byakuya769
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A bit surprised by the feel good ending, but fuck it... it made me feel good.
Marty and Rust best friends forever.
Marty and Rust best friends forever.
SweetTeddie
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I way overestimated how complex the ending was going to be. I was looking up Yellow King, Carcosa, etc to try and understand what was going on. The finale ended up being pretty straightforward, though it was still very entertaining.
Soyongdori
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I still don't understand the whole yellow king and carcosa thing either.
real_slime
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didn't miss the point, never even saw it coming
real_slime
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marty didn't get him, he'll be back, whoever he is
Soyongdori
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So the whole cult revolved around the dark circle that appears out of nowhere in Carcosa?
It's whatever horrifying shit you want to imagine it to be. It's more sinister when it isn't spelled out for you.
Yes this is how I'm looking at it much like the tape.
I think the explanation is pretty simple. The crimes weren't really being "covered up" so much as the important people in society who recognize what it is don't want too much attention to be drawn to it out of fear of being implicated if too many people start looking at it.
I don't think it has to be a grand conspiracy where everything little thing is connected and are all controlled by a super cult. That's not what's going on. It's just a few guys decades ago who followed pagan traditions and sacrificed children. Are those guys still around and are they organized? Who knows. Are they still practicing rituals just in more controlled situations? Who knows. They *could* be, and that's scary enough. They also might not be.
In the case of these specific murders, it's one guy drawing attention to himself. He was abused as a kid, his father hates him, he was crazy and hung out with the LeDoux guys who were also crazy. He doesn't seem to have any real contact with the Tuttles or the other people who are actually important in society.
It seems pretty clear to me that he's just a crazy serial killer who was very much influenced by a fucked up childhood as part of a sick cult, and while other people in the cult have become deeply integrated into public service, he became some sort of nutjob recluse. Meanwhile when he tries to get attention for his murders, those people who know what's going on try to hush it up so there isn't a smartass who actually joins all the dots leading back to them.
Nah, that was just an acid flashback. I did think that was one of the more heavy handed elements of the episode, having the hallucinations appear so infrequently in the first few episodes, disappear, then have Marty bring them back up right as they're in the car on the way over only to have one manifest at the least opportune moment. The visual itself and its placement in the structure of the story were awesome, but it was definitely a little jarring without a solid, established build up throughout the season.
-Pyromaniac-
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If this show was real the tape would be on Live Leak no doubt. And there would be a GAF thread on it.
The Artful Dodger
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I love when Rust says the hallucinations never really went away. It makes me imagine that he sees people as muppets like Kenneth did in 30 Rock.
real_slime
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probably not flashback
Cohle and Marty weren't going to uplift all of the metaphorical roots sprawled across Louisiana; it's just doesn't ring true. As much as we WANTED them to apprehend all of the individuals involved, it wouldn't have been fitting. The Tuttles may have evaded the authorities. There are at least several other men from the video still out there.
Justice wasn't served to all of the occult, but Cohle and Marty curtailed the biggest threat of the bunch. Both men took away a great deal from the collective experience surrounding the case for 17 years. The loose ends don't seem to matter in the catharsis both of the show's protagonists experience.
It's not a WHODUNIT so much as it's a WHOSOLVEDIT. Anything else would have been dishonest to what was ingrained in the show from the very first episode.
Justice wasn't served to all of the occult, but Cohle and Marty curtailed the biggest threat of the bunch. Both men took away a great deal from the collective experience surrounding the case for 17 years. The loose ends don't seem to matter in the catharsis both of the show's protagonists experience.
It's not a WHODUNIT so much as it's a WHOSOLVEDIT. Anything else would have been dishonest to what was ingrained in the show from the very first episode.
The Fontenot girl was their doing - not Errol. Hence the cover up by Sheriff Childress.
Once the high profile Lange event happened, the Tuttles were trying to intervene in order to figure out the killer and minimize their exposure.
Errol was a loose cannon killing people - certainly a result of the cult in some way or another, but the serial killings - the crux of this season - were not some sort of highly organized action ordered down through lieutenants.
The episode clearly spells out that Errol is a madman.
I think the intention of the hallucinations is not so much to just show that Rust is "fucked up", but rather to show very specifically what his strongest triggers are. The hallucinations and his taste sensors were both strongest when he was hot on the Dora Lange case and when they were closing in on Errol. It's clearly not coincidental. Might be a little heavy handed, but I think it works. It shows that when following all this fucked up shit, it affects his mind and he starts to see this shit. He likes the hunt, so it sets off shit in his head. Just a quirky character trait.
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