Billy Blanks and Greg Kinnear (former host of E! News Daily on the E! Entertainment Television channel which used to show nudity on the program "Fashion TV" in the mid to late 90's)
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True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st
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Billy Blanks and Greg Kinnear (former host of E! News Daily on the E! Entertainment Television channel which used to show nudity on the program "Fashion TV" in the mid to late 90's)
Lonestar? It's "local" Texas beer from Texas. Probably one of the few available beers from that era that wouldn't be Bud, Miller, Coors, etc.
The Artful Dodger
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Did we ever figure out who that older sheriff was that appeared a few times in the first couple episodes? I don't think he's the Yellow King but it seems he's involved somehow.
Going back to the first episode, it almost seemed suggested that they wanted Marty on the case and not Rust
Going back to the first episode, it almost seemed suggested that they wanted Marty on the case and not Rust
Rewatching ep3, Shea Whigham is so damn good at that creepy southerner role he plays a few times.
I figured, just thought it was weird that they didn't bother finding a different brewery.
I figured, just thought it was weird that they didn't bother finding a different brewery.
Yeah, just thought a beer characterised as 'nothing snooty' wouldn't be what rich old men drink.
The guy in the uniform when Tuttle shows up? He is listed as Commander Speece.
Also with my thing to write down notes, because well I like it!!
Err, yeah it makes no sense.
The Artful Dodger
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Is that him? Its the guy who appears when Marty is debriefing the Captain in the first episode.
Edit: yeah it's him.
Mr. Saturn
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People change and learn from their mistakes, hopefully that'll happen here.
So, as someone who has never seen the US The Killing, is the writing bad on the episodes Pizzolatto wrote or what?
Shit, don't know, I'll have to go back and check. Show is too dense, I can't remember all the details
Shit, don't know, I'll have to go back and check. Show is too dense, I can't remember all the details
It's not even a mistake. Nic Pizzolatto wrote two episodes of The Killing as a staff writer. The finale of season 1 was written with the showrunner Veena Sud. That's the grand total of all the TV he has ever written before True Detective. He didn't even like the job.
Here's what he said about it:
Mr. Saturn
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Oh wow, I had no idea. Well, that just makes the high quality of the show even more impressive in my eyes.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I kinda wish next episode, Marty just cheats on Maggie again, and then she dumps him, and then she randomly meets up with Alexandra Daddario again, and they both complain about what a jerk Marty is, over drinks, a lot of drinks, and then one thing leads to another, and they realize that they have a lot in common, and you know, sometimes when people get tipsy and strong emotions are involved and stuff.
Preview discussion:
Has anyone been able to identify the woman that Rust is kicking out of his place in the preview? I figure a) Marty fucks Rust's girlfriend, and their "break up" isn't fake or b) Maggie comes over for some of that Rusty nail, and he freaks out on her and tells her to fuck off.
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Cornballer
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Please make sure to spoiler tag preview discussion. Thanks.
I just realized Alexandra was that girl from the Percy Jackson movie.
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So, just to make sure I have it straight. The Tuttles are the governor and the guy who does the fundraising who is in the first ep. The revivalist preacher Theriot knew them when he was learning to be a preacher. Dora Lange went to his service a few times and had their flyer in her diary she left at the bunny ranch, and the painting of her murder is on their old burned down church building. Is that right?
Very rarely can a tv show air back to back episodes that throw things completely off the rails and catch the viewer by surprise. This show has done just that, and done so with such effortless ease, that I have no clue where it's going next. That's the sign of a quality program.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I guess io9 does recaps now: True Detective takes us to the void at the center of meaning
What the hell happened to Ginger?
When Rust drives up just before they go in at LeDoux's, Marty asks him, "Where's Ginger?" Rust says, "Wrapped up in the ditch." The last we say of him he was behind the seat in Rust's truck, and he was already 'wrapped up.'
Then they make their way in, find LeDoux's place, kill LeDoux and his cooking partner, and bring the kids out. Police and EMS all over the place by then.
So what the hell happened to Ginger? Did Rust kill him?
When Rust drives up just before they go in at LeDoux's, Marty asks him, "Where's Ginger?" Rust says, "Wrapped up in the ditch." The last we say of him he was behind the seat in Rust's truck, and he was already 'wrapped up.'
Then they make their way in, find LeDoux's place, kill LeDoux and his cooking partner, and bring the kids out. Police and EMS all over the place by then.
So what the hell happened to Ginger? Did Rust kill him?
Ha. Honestly at the moment it's kinda hard to wrap my head around this show with someone different.
NO, he tied him up and put him in a ditch somewhere. Alive. Rust didn't need Ginger no more.
My b. For some reason I had it in my mind that it only applied immediately after the episode. I'm not a smart man.
edit: I think Rust killed Ginger. He did so much shit off the books, I don't see why he would keep a loose end like Ginger alive. Plus, don't gangs hate undercovers more than regular cops? It's not hard to imagine a scenario where Ginger lives, goes back to the gang, and they put out a hit on him.
Well, I didn't think he'd kill him ... but you never saw what happened there. And it wasn't like they had much of an opportunity to go pick him up once all that shit went down and all the backup and med response arrived.
Why would he need to pick him up? Rust was a hero cop after the bust and Ginger a crook. Nobody would believe what he has to say nor could he say anything since all the shit he himself has pulled.
DarkJediKnight
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My Theory:
The yellow king is Marty's father in law, or someone who is connected to him. I believe it's the father-in-law who has been abusing Marty's daughter, or the reason behind her doing those drawings. He is also a wealthy lawyer and perhaps connected to more important people who help bury the murders. Remember the lawyer who called the the guy in custody, who slit his wrists? Marty's father-in law. A lawyer.
if this show wraps up being as strong as its been so far, it will become one of the greatest shows ever. i cant see it disappointing now, but the bar has been set so high over the last 5 eps. i cant imagine how season 2 can compete, but i really hope it does.
HBO slays all when it comes to shows. no one comes close to their legacy, and there have been a lot of damn fine shows in the last bunch of years on pay and non-pay cable stations. even a few non cable shows, like Sherlock are quite good, but cable clearly has the edge.
bravo HBO.
HBO slays all when it comes to shows. no one comes close to their legacy, and there have been a lot of damn fine shows in the last bunch of years on pay and non-pay cable stations. even a few non cable shows, like Sherlock are quite good, but cable clearly has the edge.
bravo HBO.
More fan art:
Neat idea.
bunbun777
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I don't think anyone else has mentioned this but there are colored ribbons attached to the trophies in the school, the purple one is most obvious but there appears to maybe be a pink, blue, and yellow. Which looked pretty similar to the streamers hanging in the tree from the crown thrown by the daughter. Which tree is I believe the same species as the one where the murdered girl was set up.
Figure the connections are more thematic than anything but still interesting.
Figure the connections are more thematic than anything but still interesting.
The guy who called could have been anyone though, called from a pay phone, just said he was lawyer. No evidence at all the caller was actually a lawyer.
Don't think that needs spoiler tags, sorry if I'm wrong. Rather not tag stuff that doesn't need it so people don't start highlighting tags to read current info, just sets people up to be spoiled later.
Watched the episode yesterday and I really liked it again. Loved some of the shots and how they dealt with the jumping in time
Because of those detectives you start questioning Rust but I'm sure he didn't do it. Can't wait for next week's episode. I liked how Rust went kind of nuts on the guy after he mentioned the Yellow King.
Because of those detectives you start questioning Rust but I'm sure he didn't do it. Can't wait for next week's episode. I liked how Rust went kind of nuts on the guy after he mentioned the Yellow King.
The fuck you say boy?!
Psychological Intellect
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THE ONION RING!!!!!!!
The real question though, assuming that the guy slit his wrists because someone threatened him about his info on the Yellow King, is, how was the "lawyer" informed about the guy in jail? Someone from either outside the interrogation room or the two cops that were escorting on him tattled to the Yellow King.
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Maybe he does that to fund Rust while he does the investigation. Idk
I just feel these two have been trying to smoke out the "yellow king" for a few years now, and that something Marty see's in the official file is going to help them finally solve the case.
Just caught up with the last episode. Great stuff, that time shift sequence was very well done. Some random thoughts:
- Did anyone else also first think that fat guy with Ledoux was the school lawnmower guy or spaghetti hair man?
- Tuttle dying from a mix of meds sounds like a suicide. Maybe Cohle confronted Tuttle with some dirt and the man got desperate.
- That last shot was great. The imagery of Cohle alone in the "woods" makes sense as the show is now entering the territory of lone man vs. far-reaching conspiracy.
- I'm also getting serious X-files vibes, namely the Chaco Chicken episode.
Unlike with other shows, I don't feel like going into full speculation mode on how it's going to end. Just going to sit back and enjoy descent into madness.
- Did anyone else also first think that fat guy with Ledoux was the school lawnmower guy or spaghetti hair man?
- Tuttle dying from a mix of meds sounds like a suicide. Maybe Cohle confronted Tuttle with some dirt and the man got desperate.
- That last shot was great. The imagery of Cohle alone in the "woods" makes sense as the show is now entering the territory of lone man vs. far-reaching conspiracy.
- I'm also getting serious X-files vibes, namely the Chaco Chicken episode.
Unlike with other shows, I don't feel like going into full speculation mode on how it's going to end. Just going to sit back and enjoy descent into madness.
Chuckie
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I like your theory.
I suspected the Tuttle preacher guy, but your theory fits better with things happening at Marty's house.
If it is a sect though, both could be guilty as sin.
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I hope near the end all 4 detectives, Marty and Rust as well as the two detectives from 2012 all end up working together. Late nights, ordering chinese food, bonding and shit.
Chuckie
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My wife thought the same. I did have this "Hey he looks familiar"-feeling. But I think that's because I saw him in Banshee a week ago
Wow...I totally missed this :O The preacher Tuttle? Guess that rules him out :/
Good catch.
They mentioned Tuttle's death occurring in 2010, right after Cohle returned to Louisiana.
Assuming Cohle's been secretly working the case since going off the grid in 2002, it does seem that there was interaction with Tuttle, possibly leading to suicide.
Moreover, the way the current detectives directly asked Marty if Cohle ever mentioned Tuttle, and Marty's reply that "You know he did" implies that it was known in the department that Cohle was investigating Tuttle for a while. And we see Cohle's motivation for doing so in the next scenes where he makes his discoveries in the Tuttle-sponsored schools.
Also, the the falling out with Cohle leaving the force may be his insistence on following the Tuttle lead, making the department extremely uncomfortable.
chicko1983
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So chole, who has been off the grid, suddenly re enters the state, registers his car under his own name and hangs out at one of the murder scenes?
That is too clumsy for rust if he is the killer. Why register the car under your name, why hang out at the murder scene?
My new theory is: rust finds enough evidence to think it was Tuttle. He kills him but makes it look like a suicide. Then he comes back onto the grid and there is a new murder. This is why rust looks so angry in the photo at the crime scene. It dawns on him that Tuttle may have been involved but obviously wasn't the one that killed the women. I now agree that the father in law being the killer makes sense as he was a lawyer and had access to Marty's daughter, so could have abused her.
Also, the scene where Marty is speaking to the father in law, I'm pretty sure that the father in law asks how the case is going. Why would he care specifically about the case?
That is too clumsy for rust if he is the killer. Why register the car under your name, why hang out at the murder scene?
My new theory is: rust finds enough evidence to think it was Tuttle. He kills him but makes it look like a suicide. Then he comes back onto the grid and there is a new murder. This is why rust looks so angry in the photo at the crime scene. It dawns on him that Tuttle may have been involved but obviously wasn't the one that killed the women. I now agree that the father in law being the killer makes sense as he was a lawyer and had access to Marty's daughter, so could have abused her.
Also, the scene where Marty is speaking to the father in law, I'm pretty sure that the father in law asks how the case is going. Why would he care specifically about the case?
Chuckie
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I need to rewatch this episode haha. Thanks for the info.
It ain't the father in law, the killer had plenty of access to kids not in the family already, and you don't shit where you eat.
Prepare for the worst.
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