eastwood333
Banned
I don't think I can hold out a long time for a Cyberpunk 2077 XSX enhancement. So this is great for me. I'll buy and play it immediately on XB1X and then replay on XSX when the greater enhancements come.
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Xbox Series X: Buy A Game Once and Play the Best Version Across Generations with Smart Delivery (XSX Gears 5 Confirmed)
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I don't think I can hold out a long time for a Cyberpunk 2077 XSX enhancement. So this is great for me. I'll buy and play it immediately on XB1X and then replay on XSX when the greater enhancements come.
Tulipanzo
Member
The quote literally says "every month" Pun, for a moment, which is defined, excuse the pettiness, as "a particular point at which an event takes place".
So, they did say they're going to have an event, of some entity, every month.
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
This is the first gen where both stores will have inclusions of games that will be available on both their previous and current consoles. The PS4/PS3 and 360/One gen had cross gen games but you couldn't buy the previous versions on your PS4 digitally so you couldn't make that mistake.
This gen will be different. If I am going into the store and I see Assasins Creed Valhala, I technically could get the ps4 version because its backwards compat and if I buy that version, I am not running the PS5 version.
Smart delivery and whatever sony call it, eliminates this question. You buy the game, it works and pulls whatever code is best.
geordiemp
Member
Oh I fully understand, cross generational buying 1 copy of a game is good stuff for everyone who plays on console with greedy EA and Activ. Its the rest of the rhetoric that makes me lol.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
In the case of PS3 -> PS4 there were completely different architectures at play so obviously the system wouldn't download the wrong files as they would be unable to run. That isn't the case here - the Series X is entirely capable of running the Xbox One versions of these games.
Using PC as a comparison again - if you're a developer and you upload a new version of your game to Steam, and it breaks compatibility with older operating systems, your only recourse is to say "sorry chumps, time to upgrade". Microsoft is just ensuring that when developers update, say, Destiny 2 - that the game doesn't stop working for the older consoles, and that it doesn't start slowing down (common problem on mobile platforms where hardware iterations like this are common).
It's not exactly special, but as someone that's already heavily invested in the ecosystem it's comforting to know that my purchases will be forwards compatible.
lastmessiah
Member
This is good stuff. Real good. Can't wait to hear more about xCloud.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
It's pretty obvious that you can, and you will. But what's this obsession over exclusives? What way are you even referring to the term? Something being exclusive doesn't suddenly make it a good game. Those things you're thinking are next-gen, if engine devs and engine/programming scalability has reached the levels they should, you won't have to rely on AAA exclusives being the only games to leverage that tech in satisfying ways.
So yeah, I think I can easily show where your logic is wrong on this, and it's not a PR spiel. It's real talk.
Mr. Nobody
Member
Does that work for the DLC as well?
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Very entertaining to see all the "it's just cross-buy" downplaying going on. It's not at all the same thing.
Cross-Buy = You get a separate SKU of a game you purchase for another platform.
Smart Delivery = You get one SKU and that game works across all your Xbox devices with upgrades automatically delivered depending on which console you are playing on.
Cross-Buy = You get a separate SKU of a game you purchase for another platform.
Smart Delivery = You get one SKU and that game works across all your Xbox devices with upgrades automatically delivered depending on which console you are playing on.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Yep! He and I played through a lot of the Overcooked 2 DLC expansions this way.
Xbox Support
support.xbox.com
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Yep! He and I played through a lot of the Overcooked 2 DLC expansions this way.
Xbox Support
This cut my gaming budget in half this gen. Works on PS4 as well.
What was this rhetoric you speak of? They were just giving out more information about smart delivery.
The Alien
Banned
A number of devs have spoken:
EA has already confirmed Smart Delivery (for a limited time) for the next Madden.
Ubisoft has also agreed to Smart Delivery for AC Valhalla (and I believe Rainbow 6).
Bungie agreed for Destiny 2.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Codes 208
Member
Its essentially the same concept as buying a game on steam, playing it on a mid range pc (or laptop) upgrading to a new higher range pc tower and still having access to the same game
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
With a bit more context in the image this is worthy of the gif thread.Rockstar:
Krappadizzle
Member
It's sad state where this has to be a feature when it should just be the standard. Glad MSFT is at least taking the more pro-consumer approach. I'd be way more inclined to buy a PS5 if I knew I could play all my games from the PS4 on it and have them look better. People who don't want that are crazy fools. Ya'll don't remember when the PS2 released? The though of playing MGS with better graphics or backwards compatibility in general was a big selling point of the PS2 at launch.
Are XBOX studios mandated to make their Series X games playable on this console that released in 2013?
If so then that's a problem to me as a consumer. You can call me "disingenuous" all you want because I want games that aren't anchored by 7 year old hardware, but come November, my wallet will scream otherwise.
Hi there!
You are more than welcome to create a thread and express your concerns for the situation that you describe. In the meantime, please cool it in here. You are not going to convince anyone, and it will just be endless arguing in circles making the thread unbearable for those who are interested in learning about what this new marketing slogan means.
Thank you.
DrumNBassDanTTV
Member
Amazing news 
Tulipanzo
Member
Right, I'm not trying to undermine it at all, but it is literally the same thing.
You buy one version, and get all the others. It is identical, and that's a good thing.
It also seems that some games are getting one case with "XBOX" on it, other are getting both "XBOX ONE" and "XBOX SERIES X" cases.
I think it'll be a nightmare for retailers, but that's just me.
LeVictorien
Banned
The way I understood it is you buy the game then it automatically detects the hardware you have and it installs the upgrade if there is any. You don't have to do anything.
Dory16
Banned
I totally get the name that they've created. You only worry about purchasing (any version of) the game. It works out the version you need given your system and you play that.
In the case of game pass titles it just means press play. You will be playing the best version that your setup allows.
Smart delivery sounds about right.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
This is basically what I am describing but in its current form its hard to tell if theres a version that is enhanced for One X. I would like to see that information more at the forefront.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Which literally could be an article on Xbox.com.
The word event carries weight here that I'm not seeing stated in this article. They are going to release information; we'd hope it would be a video every month.. but who knows?
geordiemp
Member
Its worded as some sort of exclusive benefit, where in effect every console will download its own version if its buy 1 copy and its allowed by publishers to own across multiple generations, bloody obvious.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Are XBOX studios mandated to make their Series X games playable on this console that released in 2013?
If so then that's a problem to me as a consumer. You can call me "disingenuous" all you want because I want games that aren't anchored by 7 year old hardware, but come November, my wallet will scream otherwise.
No need to start a new thread.
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/tech...bbing-players-of-the-next-gen-thrill.1540782/
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/“its...yed-on-playstation-5”.1544337/#post-258376779
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/did-...eries-x-to-be-a-true-next-gen-system.1546617/
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/why-...impact-on-game-design.1544658/#post-258409545
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/so-p...he-first-year-s.1540200/page-4#post-258082878
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/with...eneration-games.1536698/page-5#post-257824872
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...series-x-at-all.1529703/page-8#post-257241669
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/so-h...power-advantage.1532361/page-2#post-257451843
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...ar-after-launch.1519540/page-3#post-256514874
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/forb...-as-wild-as-it-sounds.1519851/#post-256521912
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/here...-work-on-x1-xsx.1519830/page-2#post-256528125
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...xbox-one-decree.1521735/page-2#post-256646331
thebigmanjosh
Member
Seriously. This commitment to "one game, one license" by MS is a game-changer and I hope this pushes other publishers to follow suit.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
What did the GTA V announcement have to do with a potential PS5 smart-delivery like service?
Even better. Yeah don't start a new thread.
Genx3
Member
Its not rhetoric.
Yes its PR because its a new feature for AAA games in the Console space so they want to advertise it.
It really shouldn't bother you that they advertise good beneficial features for their console because this could put pressure on the competition to do the same.
thebigmanjosh
Member
Whoops. Misread the Rockstar quote and thought it was going to be a free upgrade for all owners of the game.
Starcheif
Member
I believe I read that EA removed the "limited time" on Madden.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yeah Rockstar is probably planning on making people buy GTA V.... again.
GTA Online is supposed to be free though, for some 3 month window or something.
CircleOfFire
Member
That's a distinction without a difference.
Tulipanzo
Member
Well, they've already released multiple articles this month.
The expectation are obviously for video, but I feel that even an article should at least contain new information to count as part of XBox 20/20.
FloatingIslands
Member
Imagine if you could buy it on xbox and download it via the Microsoft store to a pc 
ManaByte
Gold Member
Imagine if you could buy it on xbox and download it via the Microsoft store to a pc
Thats PlayAnywhere
FloatingIslands
Member
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yeah I'd hope it would be some sort of video but with games being in July... and pretty much everything about the console already revealed..
I dunno lol
Maybe they are hoping people forget June
Agent X
Member
From the consumer's perspective, this is the same thing for all intents and purposes.
If a game is cross-buy on the Sony systems, then you go to PS Store on one of the systems (or on PC or mobile device), purchase the game, and it appears in your library for all of the supported systems.
For example, if you buy CounterSpy on the PS Vita, then you could turn on your PS4 afterward, and the game icon appears in the library for the PS4. When you click on it to begin the download, the server sends the files for the PS4 version off game, not the Vita or PS3 versions.
You could theoretically make that mistake now, if you're buying a game through PS Store on PC or mobile device--but only if the game is not a cross-buy game. If the game is deemed as cross-buy, then you buy on one and get access to all the other cross-buy versions.
I assume that the next generation will work the same way. If a particular game is not cross-buy or Smart Delivery, then you could conceivably purchase the version for the old system instead. As
TimFL
pointed out earlier, this appears to be "opt-in" per the publisher. We just have to hope that more and more publishers adopt this type of initiative quickly, in order to put pressure on the ones that don't.
trapanesenyc
Banned
The confusion around this still baffles me. People confusing cross buy and BC with smart delivery are the ones not in tune with the Xbox ecosystem. Xbox needs to drop a short video on the team who does smart delivery and have them explain that upgrades for many games are done internally by xbox no the developer. And all the developer has to do is approve it and it will be upgraded. Sony has cross buy to an extent but they arent upgrading games to 4k, hdr and 6ofps in some cases. Thats a financial investment xbox made so far that Sony hasn't and they need to push that more. It's a unique system that they have.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Same as you had to buy all Halo remasters. This is a nice feature but it only depends if third party will all use it or not.
This is not true. Developers need to support AND create the patch themselves before you get the enhanced edition.
If they don’t you just play the original version without SD patch, or even let you pay for it.
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