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[Afro Republican]

Forums on the net make it seem like Sony is going crazy on censorship. While it's true it's getting "worse" the question is how widespread is it?

Many people on Gaf have gone to extremes regarding Sony censorship so here's the question:

If Sony continues and increases it's censorship policies with the PS5, will it effect your purchasing decision to buy one?


Personally for myself I'm not sure since I've owned zero of the censored games so far. Yeah I know there's a moral aspect to this as well but I'm still iffy on it.

 

[VincentMatts]

im not aware of what this is about. Any examples?

 

[gunslikewhoa]

No. It also won't stop people who were never going to buy one in the first place from bitching about it.

 

[SurprisedPikachu]

im not aware of what this is about. Any examples?

The new Devil May Cry game has an unnecessary lens flare on a naked butt is the most recent example - but you can just as easily Google this and find dozens more. It seems they only really target Japanese games.

 

[mejin]

The only thing that would affect my purchase is if Sony come and say all their games will come to pc just like MS.

 

[rəddəM]

im not aware of what this is about. Any examples?

 

[Trogdor1123]

I picked no as I don't think it has been really all that bad so far and hasn't been an issue to me. That being said, it certainly could give me some second thoughts but even then it wouldn't be the deciding factor at all

 

[nowhat]

Sorry to be "that guy", but this is something that irks me every time: the word you're looking for is "affect". https://www.grammarly.com/blog/affect-vs-effect/

 

[Frizzie]

It's a wait and see for me.

I'm not an early adopter so it gives me plenty of time to see how this goes.

Preferably I would like to stick with Sony as it makes the most sense for me continuity wise. I am a big fan of Japanese games though so the censorship issue could influence any future decision.

I play my PSP quite alot and also import games for it so, another option is to get a PS5 but also buy a used Vita as I believe it has a huge catalogue of Japanese niche games.

 

[Afro Republican]

Sorry to be "that guy", but this is something that irks me every time: the word you're looking for is "affect". https://www.grammarly.com/blog/affect-vs-effect/

Invalid.

Cause&effect.

Cause= Censorship

Effect= No purchase.


Effect: change which is a result or consequence of an action or other cause.

The change= wanting a PS5 to not wanting it (potentially) due to Sony's "action"

 

[Stuart360]

Even though i'm strongly against censorship, i wouldnt let added lens flares and silly stuff like that stop me from buying a console. Now if whole gameplay or cutscene segments were removed from games on that console, but were available on another console, then that would be different.

 

[nowhat]

Invalid.

Cause&effect.

Cause= Censorship

Effect= No purchase.


Effect: change which is a result or consequence of an action or other cause.

The change= wanting a PS5 to not wanting it (potentially) due to Sony's "action"

Yes... but "effect" is a noun. Something may "affect" my purchasing habits, and that is also a verb - which "effect" is not.

If you'd bother to read the link, it's like the first paragraph: "Affect and effect are easy to mix up. Here’s the short version of how to use affect vs. effect. Affect is usually a verb, and it means to impact or change. Effect is usually a noun, an effect is the result of a change."

...but that's enough grammar-nazing for me today.

 

[Acidizer]

this "censorship" issue seems like a smear campaign or something drummed up by some internet fools or fanbois. it doesn't affect 99.9% of players.
it's a non-issue and it Sony wont lose a single PS5 sale over it.

 

[Von Hugh]

Invalid.

Cause&effect.

Cause= Censorship

Effect= No purchase.


Effect: change which is a result or consequence of an action or other cause.

The change= wanting a PS5 to not wanting it (potentially) due to Sony's "action"

You are wrong, buddy boy.

But, yeah, English is tough even for those who speak it daily.

 

[Javthusiast]

Probably not, cause I am a sucker and will want to play games like spooder-man 2, horizon 2, gow2018-2 and all the other ps exclusives. If other games will be censored, I will get them on other platforms.

 

[SaturnSaturn]

Yes actually, had all the PS consoles, i bought a xbox one x at the end of last year and also Sekiro and DMC for xbox. Still have my PS4 and will buy the new yakuza and catherine game when it come out for ps4, but other then that no.

I only play Japanese games so why should i support a company that shits on them recently and censors game and also makes Japan Studio push out VR shit? Gravity Rush is also dead in the water. What the fuck are you doing Sony

 

[AgentP]

Let me know when one game I have played has been censored. So far it seems to be Japanese games I have no interest in.

 

[kunonabi]

I've already committed to not buying a PS5 and I've severely cut down on my remaining PS4 purchases as well. I cut out NOA purchases too after how they botched the Wii U's final slate of releases among other things. I have plenty of other things I can spend my money on.

 

[KoolAidPitcher]

Sony's censorship policies caught the whole industry off guard, especially Japanese developers. A reaction to this is Japanese developers who can no longer depend on Sony will diversify their platform support in order to hedge against unwelcome censorship. Next generation, I would expect Japanese games on every platform, and very few games exclusive to Sony consoles.

The main reason I loved my Playstation was for the Japanese games. Since Japanese developers are diversifying their platform support, I am not sure of the value that Playstation will provide.

Japanese developers do not only make games, they make art. It is offensive to see the racist, and culturally incensitive branch of Sony in California impose their censorship policies on speech released in other countries. Might as well go colonize again.

 

[mcjmetroid]

It would annoy me. I grew up in the age where governments kept trying to censor stuff.

It pissed me off then and it still does now.

 

[GenericUser]

No, it currently does not affect my decision on wether or not I will buy a PS5. They mostly (only?) censored traditional japanese anime games, that I usually don't play anyway. If I would, the things that are being censored are nothing that would seriously make me consider buying a competitors console.

 

[NeonGhost]

Is there any official word that this actually censorship from Sony or just a different version they used for playstation console that they didn't notice was different from xbox and pc.

 

[Afro Republican]

You are wrong, buddy boy.

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Nope, I'm not.

Yes... but "effect" is a noun. Something may "affect" my purchasing habits, and that is also a verb - which "effect" is not.

If you'd bother to read the link, it's like the first paragraph: "Affect and effect are easy to mix up. Here’s the short version of how to use affect vs. effect. Affect is usually a verb, and it means to impact or change. Effect is usually a noun, an effect is the result of a change."

...but that's enough grammar-nazing for me today.

Doesn't apply in this case since there's a "potential" f changing not an actual change. a Verb is an action, the action for this hasn't actually been done, it's exploring the possibility of affection. The PS5 isn't around yet, so affect can't possibly apply hence the "will you" which is potentially, and thus if someone for example, answers yes, that would tell the person reading the thread that if Sony continued it would "effect: their PS5 purchase in the future, and than once that's actually done when the PS5 is a thing and X member actually decides NOT to buy it, then that action is affect.

It's like telling me that asking "will you run another mile at the race on august 5th if you got two extra bottles of water." if Yes, then that's effect, you can't have a verb there because there is no actual moment where the verb is applied yet,t hat wouldn't happen until the actual race. Something potentially happening and actually happening are not the same thing. This is something people get mixed up all the time in these word debates. You'll see this in older definitions of effect as well. Words being streamline are ruining original meanings of words. Just how things are today.

 

[Afro Republican]

this "censorship" issue seems like a smear campaign or something drummed up by some internet fools or fanbois. it doesn't affect 99.9% of players.
it's a non-issue and it Sony wont lose a single PS5 sale over it.

Well based on this thread they will lose 11 sales, but I see you're point.

I've looked into it and it's hard to determine how widespread it is because there are some games that are censored not widly known but if those games are all like 40 copies cold niche indie titles I don't know how much that would matter.

But if the retail game censorship increases in number then I could see an issue.

 

[nowhat]

Doesn't apply in this case since there's a "potential" f changing not an actual change. a Verb is an action, the action for this hasn't actually been done, it's exploring the possibility of affection.

That still doesn't make the sentence correct. You could ask "will Sony continuing censorship practices have an effect on your PS5 purchase?", that would be fine.

But more on topic, so far there's been no effect (see what I did there?) on my potential purchase. The only game where I've seen it in action is DMC5 - and really, we're talking about like a second or two, had people not started losing their shit over a lens flare I wouldn't have even paid attention. As it is - it's a bit ridiculous, but at the same time, if I want to watch hentai I'll just go over to Pornhub.

 

[Odinnii]

Im definitly buying the system but I'll be less inclined to buy multiplat games on it.

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

No, dont care, still buying the PS5

 

[nowhat]

Well based on this thread they will lose 11 sales, but I see you're point.

If you think the opinions here (or any enthusiast forum for that matter) represent the general public who make the overwhelming majority of purchases, you're deluded.

(and that should be "your point"

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Will I defect as an affect/effect to Sony’s censorship?

Idk. Depends on how bad the censorship affects/effects the games.

 

[Sqorin Hammerfarf]

Effect, when used as a verb, means to bring about. So you can effect change, but something does not effect your opinion (unless, I guess, you didn't have an opinion but now you do, but that's not what you mean). The word you are looking for is "affect". It's a common mistake. My wife makes it so much, she won't use either "effect" or "affect" at all, and instead substitutes "impact", which generally works for both.

As for how censorship affects my opinion on the PS5, I'm currently planning on buying a PS5 for the VR but since I mostly play Japanese games, I suspect the majority of my gaming time and money will be dedicated to the Switch while I wait for PSN sales.

The biggest change is that I currently want Sony to die. I want them to go out of business in the worst, most spectacularly over the top manner possible such that others use their failure as an example on gaming censorship for the rest of my days. "Well, these anime titties are a bit much but... do you remember what happened to Sony? Better just leave it alone."

 

[Jigsaah]

There are far more important factors than censorship. For example, I will not buy a PS5 if their price is outrageous. I will not buy a PS5 if they have no good games at launch.

I think Sony is gonna come up with something great, and they will have fantastic games. Censorship would not make me boycott them. I always get both Xbox and Playstation each gen. In my opinion, if you have the means, you always need at least 2 systems. PC and Switch is included though I don't have a Switch yet.

 

[Afro Republican]

If you think the opinions here (or any enthusiast forum for that matter) represent the general public who make the overwhelming majority of purchases, you're deluded.

(and that should be "your point"

You're not very smart, the post you quoted directly contradicts you. I told him sarcastically that the thread shows 11 but then I said"I see his point" which was even in your quote. And HIS POINT was that it was overblown, and in that same quote, which you cut the context out from, I also went into detail agreeing with him this may be overblown.

Try again.

 

[Afro Republican]

That still doesn't make the sentence correct. You could ask "will Sony continuing censorship practices have an effect on your PS5 purchase?", that would be fine.

But more on topic, so far there's been no effect (see what I did there?) on my potential purchase. The only game where I've seen it in action is DMC5 - and really, we're talking about like a second or two, had people not started losing their shit over a lens flare I wouldn't have even paid attention. As it is - it's a bit ridiculous, but at the same time, if I want to watch hentai I'll just go over to Pornhub.

I'll take the actual scholars and dictionary writers over your definition of a correct sentence but that's another subject.

What is a subject that's making rounds in an overblown way are the complaints about the lens flare in DMCV. But to be fair to those who are complaining, they aren't complaing about this in a vacuum, for many the censorship has been adding up and the DMCV issue was just the straw that broke the camels back.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Bought a PS4 and then upgraded to the Pro. The claim that the people bothered by Sony’s censorship weren’t planning to buy a PS5 anyways is false.

I don’t like having m someone else to decide what type of content I can or can’t consume. Likewise, parents have the capacity to control what their kids play, so this prudish overbearance from Sony is unnecessary.

 

[dispensergoinup]

grammer debait up in here

back on topic:

Yeah I'll def still buy it, censorship doesn't mean much to me when it comes to the games and if i miss something bad enough I'll just look it up on youtube.

 

[EGOMON]

Only fuckin weebs will care

 

[Shifty]

A sizable amount of the censorship complaints seem to be centered on anime smut and therefore not in my wheelhouse.

If they offer exclusives of sufficient interest I'll buy at some point down the line, as with Bloodborne and Dad of War on the PS4.

 

[NahaNago]

No, but I might not buy those games on the ps5. I hate feeling like i'm missing out on content.

 

[KiteGr]

I for once am thinking of megrating to another console for the first time since the original psx.

 

[Sqorin Hammerfarf]

There are far more important factors than censorship. For example, I will not buy a PS5 if their price is outrageous. I will not buy a PS5 if they have no good games at launch.

Say this once a game you like and respect is denied release in the US because of beliefs you don't agree with and tell me that paying $100 more for a PS5 is a more important factor.

grammer* debait** up in here***

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** debate
*** There is a grammar debate going on in here.

Only fuckin weebs will care

A major portion of video game history was written by Japan, and many of our most loved and respected games are Japanese, and even now, Japan significantly contributes to the game industry as a whole with releases like Sekiro and Devil May Cry 5. If you aren't a "weeb", then you just aren't a gamer.

 

[Ivellios]

While DMC 5 censorship bothered me a bit, i will still buy PS5 nonetheless for the exclusives.

 

[loki 16]

Nope, I don’t really play those types of games.

 

[PrCat88]

Console exclusives would be the only interest which I know nothing of at this time. Why pay for a third party game that is uncensored on Xbox One and PC? Doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Jigsaah]

Say this once a game you like and respect is denied release in the US because of beliefs you don't agree with and tell me that paying $100 more for a PS5 is a more important factor.

I'm aware of your gripe with censorship of specific games. I believe you told me about them. I can't remember the names but I think you described them as graphic novels or something. I apologize for not remembering fully and I get where you're coming from. I still don't know that I would boycott Sony for this as long as there were other great games that censorship doesn't affect. I'm not missing out on the next big Sony exclusive because I don't like that they censored some sexual content on another game I like. It's a tough call and I'm sure Sony is counting on that.

 

[Shifty]

If you aren't a "weeb", then you just aren't a gamer.

You can enjoy japanese videogames without also owning a full-size waifu body pillow, titty mouse pad and full tankobon set of My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute

 

[Ban Puncher]

I go where the anime tiddies go.

 

[AstroRhino]

No. I don’t play games to look at pixelated bottoms.

 

[Afro Republican]

A major portion of video game history was written by Japan, and many of our most loved and respected games are Japanese, and even now, Japan significantly contributes to the game industry as a whole with releases like Sekiro and Devil May Cry 5. If you aren't a "weeb", then you just aren't a gamer.

Firstly Japan biggest significance was decades ago but here's the thing.

It's not about Jaanese games when people say "weeb' there's a different between a game like Metal Gear and a game like onechambara bikini smurai squad, almost all the Nippon Ichi Software library, and Neptunia.

Weeb =/= Super Metroid or Metal Slug.

Weeb = Underage girl slashing dragons but naked, or overly anime aesthetic games, or niche visual novels.

 

[Afro Republican]

pixelated bottoms.

Pixelated? This ain't the 90's lol.

 

[dispensergoinup]

* grammar
** debate
*** There is a grammar debate going on in here.

Dam u, correcting my speeling!