ArtHands
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Oculus Quest is giving VR the boost it needs for mass adoption
As VR hardware sales approach $2.1 billion, we can put to rest any notion of VR being a fad.
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VR hardware sales approach $2.1 billion thanks to Oculus Quest
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Romulus
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I don't think we've seen those numbers yet. I think this is just growth over 2018 with the Quest popularity. After winter numbers come I out, I expect an even bigger surge because of Alyx. So 2 huge factors will play into it.
Next year, gearing up to Alyx's launch, I expect another surge.
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UltimaKilo
Gold Member
Alyx and PSVR2 are going to make the industry explode. Within 5 years, there will be nowhere else to go with flat gaming: photo realism, 120fps, 8K? That’s all marginal. The future is being INSIDE the games (at 16k, 240hz and 200 degrees FOV and wireless).
It’s still very early, but the Quest is a great entry device that will push more and more people towards VR.
It’s still very early, but the Quest is a great entry device that will push more and more people towards VR.
Matt_Fox
Member
That's $2 billion in total revenue across ALL vr devices?
When you consider just one piece of software GTA V can boast revenue of over $6 billion it puts into context how far the VR hardware (which sells for far far more $$$ per unit) has to go.
It's got a great little niche, and there are some really loud supporters (you'll see the same five or six guys on this forum come out to bat hard for it whenever there's a thread) but I don't think all these "VR is about to go mainstream" "VR is about to get its killer app" type headlines are realistic or even helpful.
The press and opinion makers need to ease off the hyperbole and just let VR be a fun peripheral for those that enjoy it, and stop trying to proclaim that we'll all be living in the matrix next year or that it's a console killer.
When you consider just one piece of software GTA V can boast revenue of over $6 billion it puts into context how far the VR hardware (which sells for far far more $$$ per unit) has to go.
It's got a great little niche, and there are some really loud supporters (you'll see the same five or six guys on this forum come out to bat hard for it whenever there's a thread) but I don't think all these "VR is about to go mainstream" "VR is about to get its killer app" type headlines are realistic or even helpful.
The press and opinion makers need to ease off the hyperbole and just let VR be a fun peripheral for those that enjoy it, and stop trying to proclaim that we'll all be living in the matrix next year or that it's a console killer.
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kraspkibble
Permabanned.
you're really comparing it to the 3rd best selling game of all time?
2 billion is not bad.
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Touche
So good. LOLBut nobody wants VR!!
Why is it selling if nobody wants it?
Ar¢tos
Member
Comparing the sales of one of the top selling multiplatform multigen game with the sales of an accessory...
I wonder why this doesn't work??
Hint: I bought a Ps4 once, but i bought GTA V three times.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
VR is good and it would be good to see if AAA developers specialize around VR (Half Life, Elder Scrolls etc.) we haven't really seen a AAA game take on VR and take it to another level.
Disagree.
Lone Echo, Asgards Wrath, Beat Saber, Hellblade and several others are AAA with many at AA quality. Then there's conversions like Alien Isolation and Doom 3 (which are amazing in VR).
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Yes but consider casual gamers many of them are happy with Darth Vader VR apps, those games could be elaborate and have developers working on them for months but in defense of the casual gamers most of those games you listed are EASILY dismissed in favor of free, well-known apps like Darth Vader VR.
I think what you're getting at it is there needs be more killer app/gateway VR games to pique gamers interest? Something that will resonate with them enough to buy the hardware? Beat Saber (when I've shown that off) is a good one for that as is Vader VR. Although Vader isn't free. I'm talking about Vader Immortal VR (3 parts).
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12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Valve Index Full Kit Backorders Approach Half-Life: Alyx Release Window
Update December 22: Valve changed its Steam store listings for all Valve Index hardware to “notify me”, effectively removing the ability to pre-purchase the system after the headset was backordered to February. Original story follows that was first published on December 14. Time may be running...
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Vawn
Banned
"Now let's all look at how VR is selling and any upcoming VR games to see why the Xbox Series X won't support it.... and...... fuuuuuu....."
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lukilladog
Member
600k units more to go...
and match the Ouya.
Romulus
Member
Welcome to.gaming forums. People that are passionate about xbox etc do the same, and it's a similar number of people that super hardcore.
You also have to understand theres the opposite. About 5 guys that flood every thread just to say "VR is dead." Yet have no interest in it. Lol, But that's ok apparently and the fans are the ones that really need to shut up.
And where are all these people saying VR is going mainstream? I see 1-2 posts a thread like that maybe.
I don't think it will, I just believe it will break out to a very healthy niche in a couple of years. Traditional gaming isn't going anywhere.
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imsosleepy
Member
And gues who will miss out? Xbox.
Romulus
Member
What, the Quest? 2 years on the market versus a few months. $99 vs $399. And that's not even the best selling headset.
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Vawn
Banned
I'm a HUGE VR guy, but no. VR will never replace traditional gaming, nor should it. It is a great supplement to it though.
Vawn
Banned
Valve index backotdered now until February. Updated.
They're going all out with scarcity tactics!
Sheesh. At $1000 too.
Slings and Arrows
Banned
If TES 6 launches in VR for the PSVR2/Valve/Oculus, then you will see the change towards VR
lukilladog
Member
Valve index backotdered now until February. Updated.
They're going all out with scarcity tactics!
hurry, hurry!, order now before it´s too late and you are left out from the next batch!.
It´s just psychology in marketing.
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Vawn
Banned
Lol, no. These things are expensive as hell, so most likely, they were conservative in their estimates to avoid heavy losses.
Romulus
Member
No.
Pushing backorders out 2 months is more than scarcity tactics, sorry. They massively underestimated the demand for that much of a delay.
Oculus Quest is also dealing with backorders.
This is getting more and more difficult to downplay. No one is saying this is suddenly mainstream, but it's not a good year for the haters at all.
Katsura
Member
I guess a lot of people misunderstood the concept of voting with your walletBut nobody wants VR!!
Why is it selling if nobody wants it?
lukilladog
Member
bro, I could bet they have pallets filled with this stuff hidden somewhere, just like nvidia and amd partners during the cripto mining.
Vawn
Banned
And they're just going to sit on them for months even when people are looking to buy them for the holidays?
I guess you can believe what you want. Conspiracies are easier to believe than that VR is growing quickly.
lukilladog
Member
They can do that if they are working with oculus.
lukilladog
Member
If this drives orders up, they are fine with people waiting.
2 months is what happens when you abuse scarcity tactics.
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Romulus
Member
Right, so why is the Oculus Rift S available then? Is this oculus just making sure their tactics aren't too obvious?
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lukilladog
Member
Not part of the deal I guess.
Grinchy
Banned
I am not claiming to know everything there is to know about the Quest, but I just have a hard time seeing it as a good purchase. The idea of having all the hardware in one piece is amazing. That's the part I understand.
The part I don't understand is why I'd want to pay $400-500 on a VR unit that can only play today's least demanding VR games at 72hz and a battery that only lets me play for 2 hours. I see a ton of positive talk about the Quest, so that's why I'm just a little confused. It feels like it has a lot of drawback and will become obsolete very quickly.
I did just read about the Link functionality that lets it just become a standard VR headset that connects to your high-power PC. I really don't get that, because if you were already going to do that, the Rift S and Index seem like way better purchases. The Rift S is even the same price or cheaper!
The part I don't understand is why I'd want to pay $400-500 on a VR unit that can only play today's least demanding VR games at 72hz and a battery that only lets me play for 2 hours. I see a ton of positive talk about the Quest, so that's why I'm just a little confused. It feels like it has a lot of drawback and will become obsolete very quickly.
I did just read about the Link functionality that lets it just become a standard VR headset that connects to your high-power PC. I really don't get that, because if you were already going to do that, the Rift S and Index seem like way better purchases. The Rift S is even the same price or cheaper!
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Katsura
Member
Link is wired. There are a couple of wireless solutions and they work provided you have the right set up
Grinchy
Banned
Yeah I was reading about Link as I was posting lol
But like I edited in, why would you want that instead of a much better VR headset (Rift S) for the same price if you're just going to do the standard high power PC setup?
Romulus
Member
What deal?
Katsura
Member
Quest has slightly higher screen res but lower refresh rate. The draw for me is untethered VR. It's amazing and since i have a very fast connection and a good router, i can even play SteamVR games wirelessly. I also play plenty of Quest VR games and apps like Kingspray, Tilt brush, Gravity Sketch and SculptVR are fantastic
Romulus
Member
It's the combo that I think is appealing, play wirelessly lower tier games, take it to your friends etc, but also play high end stuff on pc.
Ar¢tos
Member
The answer is very simple:
VR PORN
Screen refresh rate - not important
Battery - You only need 10-20min at a time
Price - sex sells at whatever price
Grinchy
Banned
Does playing it that way (not using the internal components to run the game) make the battery life better?
Katsura
Member
Not by much. To be honest, the battery life is just not great on the Quest. While it doesn't have to actually run the game, it still has to stream it while running another app, Virtual Desktop
Vawn
Banned
Don't bother. He's convinced the only way a VR headset could possibly sell out is if all the manufacturers get together and agree to pretend to be sold out so NeoGAF will make a thread or something stupid.
He doesn't seem to have anything to back this up other than "VR sucks".
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God, you sound like one of those fanboy living in denial when the wii was first popular
