Yeah that's how ps3 games run. Like shitNah, in the UK mate, and yes the experience was horrible. The frame rate was poor AF
Why would they, they're direct ports.You want to be surprised? Play Jak&Daxter collection on Vita. They didn’t even bother to remove the “controller vibration” option on the settings. I mean if that’s not the definition of lazy I don’t what is.
You want to be surprised? Play Jak&Daxter collection on Vita. They didn’t even bother to remove the “controller vibration” option on the settings. I mean if that’s not the definition of lazy I don’t what is.
That’s my y best suggestion sorryThe Ratchet games don’t emulate well, apparently. It’s not the answer.
FunkMiller , that's a shame to hear. Do you have this problem with other games on PS Now?
For what it's worth, I played through Ratchet & Clank: Into the Nexus on PS Now, mostly through my PC with Wi-Fi, and it was extremely playable.
One thing to keep in mind is that all of the R&C games that are currently on PS Now are PS3 games. Most of these will run at or around 720p resolution, regardless of the display that your PS4/PS5 or PC is using.
It looks sub 720p to me. Just horrible, fuzzy, blurred nastiness. And the screen tearing is pretty unforgivable. I’ve got no detectable lag, but to stream a game in this quality is just insane.
A Crack In Time doesn’t look much better - if at all.
….best get on EBay, I suppose.
This is so poor from Sony I’m actually surprised.
edit: tried a couple of PS4 games and they’re okay.
Really? Last time I checked, most of these games had a lot of bugs and other problems even if they were kind of playable. Didn't seem like a good experience at all.you can emulate it on a pc.
The compatibility list on the PCSX2 site got all the games listed as playable since 2015.Really? Last time I checked, most of these games had a lot of bugs and other problems even if they were kind of playable. Didn't seem like a good experience at all.
Can you snap a picture of the screen while playing, of when its looking really crappy, I want to try PSNow but I'll just hook up the PS3 instead if its that bad. No worries if you don't have time though.
Oh, I meant the PS3 games. Those can't be emulated well it seems.The compatibility list on the PCSX2 site got all the games listed as playable since 2015.
I'll give it a test, FOR SCIENCE! But I'm only getting 5MB/sec.
Fair enough, I could imagine that the PS3 R&C Trilogy fixes some of the ancient standard controls and is a better way to experience the first three games too.Oh, I meant the PS3 games. Those can't be emulated well it seems.
I got a ps3 slim with a broken disc drive for $30 on ebay, applying HEN took a couple minutes, so the cost was basically two months of shitty PSnow.Sounds not really easy and expensive :-/
You're missing the point of the subject that is BC.
”Playable”Great, let me tell you my experience. I've completed TLoU, UC1, UC2 and currently playing through UC3. All through streaming. All playable. This is over the last 6 months.
For you maybe but not for me.”Playable”
yes - barely
psnow streaming is well.. shit… playable shit sure
Good job! That's ingeniousI got a ps3 slim with a broken disc drive for $30 on ebay, applying HEN took a couple minutes, so the cost was basically two months of shitty PSnow.
It would make it super appealing. Pfffft Sony.PS3 version of The Last of us is on the service instead of the remastered version that's enough to tell you how much Sony cares about this
a shame cause Sony has many great games from PS1-2-3 they could add and makes it more appealing
Missing the point.
I mean, come on, I don't want to piss over PS Now and Sony's approach to their old games, but it really is dog shit.
You can play Quest For Booty and A Crack In Time on PS Now, but not Tools Of Destruction? Parts two and three of a trilogy, but not part one?
And no way to play the older games at all. None. Nowhere. Unless you have the old console lying around (which I don't).
Come the fuck on Sony, pull your finger out on this one now. It's getting ridiculous.
Edit: update - PS Now is the drizzling shits.
Find a good HEN PS3 and you're good my friend.
Why fuck around with PS Now. Just pick up a 2nd hand PS3.
Fair enough, I could imagine that the PS3 R&C Trilogy fixes some of the ancient standard controls and is a better way to experience the first three games too.
Anyway, first Ratchet and Clank on PCSX2 worked wonderfully. Even injected ReShade and this is as far as I remember playing R&C back in the days. I might actually continue, get prepared for the Ripped a Fart PC port.
Lots of legacy titles that can be leveraged by Sony but they're too stupid and/or slow to tap into that potential market.Eh. I really can't be arsed to spend the time looking for one on eBay. Don't need the fucker cluttering up my flat, either. And the Ratchet & Clank Collection on Ps3 is ridiculously expensive - largely because of this very thing.
What I just don't get is that there is a potentially much stronger revenue stream here for Sony, that they aren't leveraging properly. Shit... at least get the Ratchet games up on PS Now to generate income off all the idiots like me who want to go back and play the older games, having enjoyed Rift Apart.
Lots of legacy titles that can be leveraged by Sony but they're too stupid and/or slow to tap into that potential market.
Look at Nintendo. They're enjoying huge success by keeping legacy titles alive.
I enjoyed reading your post and pretty much agree with all of it and then I just lost it at the bolded. Be still my fucking beating heart. A Getaway remake would send me overboard. I want a remake of that fucking game so much it hurts.This. I feel a purchase of Bluepoint would be to solidify that need.
I feel those titles should have been remastered in a collection long ago on PS4 as the Ratchet Series is wildly successful.
Maybe we get some beefy master collection with all the titles from Bluepoint on PS5. Who knows.
In Sony's defense, they have remade several titles and made many collections, simply that a great port team is hard to come by, Bluepoint can port all those games themselves lol So Sony might want to buy the team, grow the team and make a plan to remaster those older legacy titles and remake certain key titles etc.
You remake SoTc, yet get heat for not remaking Demon Souls, you remake Demon Souls, you get heat for not remaking Ico, remake Ico and folks ask "wow, so Sony just hates Killzone huh" lol Its hard to keep up with lots of that shit, even for Nintendo.
Where is that Kirby collection with all titles? Where is Kirby's Air ride lol Shit where is Viewtiful Joe collection by Capcom, or Onimusha collection? Even publishers we know get port horny and love doing that shit, still have loads of games that they haven't ported or remastered yet. So I say its very hard to really have that on lock for all legacy titles and maybe the reason it hasn't happened yet is more logical then to say they are "too stupid" as to my understanding, just a while ago folks where arguing that Sony is remastering or remaking too much.
Right when they port Ratchet, someone will ask "where Is the Getaway remake doe"
That someone will be me lol
I enjoyed reading your post and pretty much agree with all of it and then I just lost it at the bolded. Be still my fucking beating heart. A Getaway remake would send me overboard. I want a remake of that fucking game so much it hurts.
You'd have to book me in for a night at the Arkham Asylum if they announce it.
Eh, I can not call that guv. Tools was WAAAAY too easy. I needed Challenge Mode for the game to provide some semblance of a challenge. Enemy design (especially the Cragmites that they were hyping up for the entire game) was largely underwhelming, weapons were not as fun to use as they were in the earlier games (especially the RYNO, Huge exceptions for Zurkon and the Groovitron, though), and the story ended on a cliffhanger. The writing was still solid although the game was not a risqué as it's predecessors.It’s weird because FTOD is by far the best out of the three.
All it shows is that Sony do not care about long term preservation. Maybe it costs too much ?
But then, if it costs too much to preserve a legacy they've been building for decades, does it mean they don't value their legacy?
That's the difference between them and the competition when you look at it this way.
Playing on PlayStation is a two edged decision. You get to be on the platform that has the most game, all the newer first party output. But then, you also are on the platform that does support the very minimum backward compatibility. Each new gen from Sony is a goodbye to the last and most of it's services go offline prematurely.
Can PCSX2 run games from disc? Or is there a way to rip games to desktop.
.......
My laptop doesn't even have disc drive.
*SIGH*
Yeah they did it for PS2 but then partially on PS3. Every PS3 model should have had the feature at this premium price, no excuse.YSony has released only one console since the PS1 that was not backwards compatible. And that is native backwards compatibility, not downloading a new version which requires internet and even then only a limited number of titles from Console X's library. The PS2 could play all PS1 games natively. Every PS3 could play all PS1 games natively with improvements. Every PS5 can play PS4 games natively. Even the Vita could run any downloaded PSP game. The only console they released that was not BC was the PS4 and it made more money than the rest of them combined. If anything Sony should not care about it, the market clearly did not, fully BC PS3 models proved that.
What are you talking about? I keep asking: Where do these narratives come from???
Yeah they did it for PS2 but then partially on PS3. Every PS3 model should have had the feature at this premium price, no excuse.
PS4 made money yes, it's not what I'm talking about either. I'm talking about Sony not caring about their legacy. They'll sell a mini PlayStation with an handful of games but they ''can't'' or don't want to figure out how to implement the ability to insert previous PS CD into the Ps4. PS5 is backward compatible for the previous gen only. The Vita is a great machine but then again, Sony were about to close its store completely before the catastrophic backlash.
That's not even counting the gigantic list of game servers shutted down over the past decade. No wonder why their first party mostly don't feature multiplayer. They know they would eventually kill it prematurely.
This is all well and good, Nixxes and BP take the strain off the Sony game devs in terms of PC ports and Remasters...This. I feel a purchase of Bluepoint would be to solidify that need.
I feel those titles should have been remastered in a collection long ago on PS4 as the Ratchet Series is wildly successful.
Maybe we get some beefy master collection with all the titles from Bluepoint on PS5. Who knows.
In Sony's defense, they have remade several titles and made many collections, simply that a great port team is hard to come by, Bluepoint can port all those games themselves lol So Sony might want to buy the team, grow the team and make a plan to remaster those older legacy titles and remake certain key titles etc.
You remake SoTc, yet get heat for not remaking Demon Souls, you remake Demon Souls, you get heat for not remaking Ico, remake Ico and folks ask "wow, so Sony just hates Killzone huh" lol Its hard to keep up with lots of that shit, even for Nintendo.
Where is that Kirby collection with all titles? Where is Kirby's Air ride lol Shit where is Viewtiful Joe collection by Capcom, or Onimusha collection? Even publishers we know get port horny and love doing that shit, still have loads of games that they haven't ported or remastered yet. So I say its very hard to really have that on lock for all legacy titles and maybe the reason it hasn't happened yet is more logical then to say they are "too stupid" as to my understanding, just a while ago folks where arguing that Sony is remastering or remaking too much.
Right when they port Ratchet, someone will ask "where Is the Getaway remake doe"
That someone will be me lol
This is all well and good, Nixxes and BP take the strain off the Sony game devs in terms of PC ports and Remasters...
But even then Sony's strategy could just as easily be maligned because it's not Backwards Compatability, or providing those Remaster upgrades (frame rate, visuals etc.) for free like MS does.
So Sony is always in a tough position, PR wise. Which is exactly why Jim Ryan's fuck-ups don't help them at all. People don't like to feel like they have been mislead, lied-to, or are being fleeced for cash.
”Playable”
yes - barely
psnow streaming is well.. shit… playable shit sure
In all these years they didn’t even bother to upgrade their stream to 1080p, and yes while most ps3 games run at 720p it is still a significant difference in overall image quality, not to mention that even with Fios I had bad lag and artifacts. I tried playing through Infamous and almost puke, it literally made me do research and do what I’ve done, now I’m enjoying a bunch of games that I couldn’t before.Good job! That's ingenious
is PSnow that bad?
I don't disagree with you, but the gaming community feels this way about any fucking thing. Like....anything.
Keep in mind, many of those upgrades by Sony are free, that doesn't fucking mean zero remaster will be made, it simply people crying about not getting all shit for free. Might as well argue all games must be free to play like Apex and that EA is really helping the people out.
No one is forcing anyone to buy shit, this is a "first world" issue at best by people who seem to think the world revolves around them or something lol
Literally, hear what you are saying my friend.
Providing remasters upgrades for free?
GHOST ADDED THAT PATCH FOR FREE THIS YEAR!
Ghost Of Tsushima Runs Like a Dream On PS5 With 60 FPS Upgrade
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They fucking added an entire multiplayer mode FOR FREE last year
https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/ghost-of-tsushima-will-add-co-op-multiplayer-for-free/
So they indeed did what "MS does", this is a entitled argument of "waaaaa waaaaa I want more" thats all this shit is.
You can't really argue that they didn't provide any support for free, when several modes, features and performance updates happened all for free this year and last year, only to then pretend you are the victim of something or being "lied to" or "fleeced for cash" the moment they make a remaster. I didn't hear shit like this when they were giving all that free stuff for this game, now suddenly gamers have neck braces on standing in a court room, cry me a river man lol
Let me guess, this is ok so long as they NEVER make a remaster or?
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This doesn't have shit to do with anyone being robbed or scammed, its simply entitled gamers begging for free shit the movement a remaster comes out, all while ignoring the fucking free updates given to those titles. Using this logic, might as well argue all sequels should be free.
Its irrelevant.My whole entire bone of contention comes from I believe Sony pursue Remasters at the direct expense of pursuing Backwards Compatability.
I do not see any direct correlation considering both literally exist , you are arguing an either or in a situation where its not.... you are arguing about something with little to no evidence that such a thing even exist as conpiracy. Who the fuck is forcing anyone to port games?Weather that's cutting deals with developers to re-liscense games to throw onto PSNow, throw-up for resale in the PStore, or what-have-you.
We know they have a PS2 emulator that's been working since PS4 (I guess that also counts as a PS1 emulator too, since PS2 could run PS1 games). And we also know they can wrap a PSP game up in code, and have the PS4 run it as a ''PS4 game'' (see: Parappa The Rapper HD, a remaster of the PSP game). I
I think the hardest one they'd have issues with is the PS3 games, but they need to get something sorted, because the PS3 server farms that run PS3 games on PSNow can't last forever
the specific chips that made-up the PS3 innards are supposed to have stopped being produced now. Sony just don't seem to be opening the floodgates, they could offer so much more.
They literally can't remaster everything,
What is Fios by the way?In all these years they didn’t even bother to upgrade their stream to 1080p, and yes while most ps3 games run at 720p it is still a significant difference in overall image quality, not to mention that even with Fios I had bad lag and artifacts. I tried playing through Infamous and almost puke, it literally made me do research and do what I’ve done, now I’m enjoying a bunch of games that I couldn’t before.
Oh my God! Dude that was in expert point by point rebuttal destruction, of a series of wild ass emotional takes. I felt that burn here in Texas.Its irrelevant.
PS5 is literally fucking BC to PS4 and has remasters......
PS3 was BC to PS2 and PS1, yet still had remasters of many titles, for fuck sakes PS3 literally had ports of FFVII, FFVIII and FFIX even though PS3s have native BC to PS1, that doesn't fucking mean no publisher will port a game and that all gamers own all games.
I do not see any direct correlation considering both literally exist , you are arguing an either or in a situation where its not.... you are arguing about something with little to no evidence that such a thing even exist as conpiracy. Who the fuck is forcing anyone to port games?
I've seen publishers literally PORT GAMES on systems that have BC.
Bioshock, MCC, Gears Of War remasters, Borderlands collection etc all came out on many systems, even ones that literally had BC
Those developers are 100% allowed to port, remaster and remake what the fuck they feel like it, it is their IP, it is not yours, you don't fucking own the company and no...Sony, Nintendo and MS are not forcing anyone to port, remaster or do anything like that, as why the fuck would those same publishers then have remasters on XONE? Sony made a deal for them to do that too or?
We also know the majority don't even give a shit about those features too... The people who care about those titles that much, also own the hardware to play it and collect versions of those titles. We also know Switch and PS4 are literally the fastest selling systems for both those companies.
Zero BC.
No they don't bud.... they don't "need" to do anything. I'd argue its easier to just port, remake, remaster those titles and move on then to do shit with PS3 emulation simply to save you a few bucks. I'd argue your last point literally supports that, I mean shit PS3 server farms won't last forever right? Sounds like it makes more sense to just port those popular titles and just be done with it.
Yea...all the reason to just port the fucking games and be done with it . They don't need to offer anything, that generation is done and you can get those games online and they can port them later on. The data simply doesn't support that the majority really care about this and I say this as a person that literally owns like 5 PS3s. If you gave a shit, you would have had the system in the first place, at this point its just begging for free shit as if the company owes you free hardware now.
They don't need to, they can remaster their own titles as they have over the generations. Other publishers will remaster key titles based on if they feel like it or not.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MXTDGN6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
but hey, Sony must have bribed EA to make a Mass Effect remaster cause EA hates money? Thats probably why its only on PS Now and PlayStation systems /s
My guy, EA dead ass made a collection and re-released Mass Effect during the same fucking generation it came out on lol The idea of a publisher porting a game, remastering a game etc isn't some wild conspiracy, they normally do that REGARDLESS of BC. Why the fuck would EA, Ubisoft, Activision, Capcom or anyone else fucking care that as system has BC, as if the sole reason to port the game, was to give you a way to play it? We are seeing remasters from publishers right now even with BOTH PS5 and Series X having BC, thus...your entire wild concept of anyone being paid off to do this is simply not the case.
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So...I'm sorry buddy, but you don't even have 1 fucking system that has ever released that even gives you the thing you are asking for to really be out here making it sound like this demand makes any sense.
....it would be easier to just fucking buy this and be done with it. Your issue can be solved right here buddy.
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Oh, Fios is 1gbs internet up/down that's offered by Verizon in the US, let's just say that it's basically top tier internet and PSnow still streamed like shit through it lolWhat is Fios by the way?
I have a friend who tried PSNow for a month. Well, she had so much lag she ended the sub asap. I'm no technician but maybe the problem comes from the console bandwidth? It can't receives as much data as it would need to makes it lag free?
London is such a beautiful city man. Been recently sort of binge watching walking tours around different parts of London and when international travel opens up and life returns to somewhat of a normal, this would be one of the first places I'll look to visit.Facts. This is a series that if remade, rebooted etc, would need so much care and attention as it did a lot of things right and a lot of things wrong and is in great need of a make over. We don't have much open world titles set in the UK and with Sony loving green lighting open world games, i'm generally surprised a Getaway remake, reboot etc wasn't already in the works. We wouldn't even need the exact team as so much time has passed, its now irrelevant to make a successful reboot.
One day.