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The Official Halo 3 Thread
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Buttonbasher
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SpudBud said:
Look. Sky.
Vyse The Legend
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Assembly Required said:
Well, Frankie's birthday is 7/7/1977.
First, you take the first set of 7s, like so: 7x7 = 49 Then, divide it by the next 7, which equals 7. Finally, you multiply it by the last 7 again to get 49achievements. Simple.
BrLvgThrChmstry
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Vyse The Legend said:
Way to break it down. Thanks, I felt like I was out of the loop.
Mr. Lemming said:
no i have no strategy. i hate the map because i hate camping scrubs. you can say all you want about tunnel defenses but it doesnt stop the fact that kids still do it. yes i know you can throw grenades or do this and that, it still doesnt prevent people from camping.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
SpudBud said:
This council will not tolerate such herecy.
Mr. Lemming
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MaX_PL said:
My point is even if they are camping you can make that a losing deal for them.
Stahsky
A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
Blueblur1 said:I love you.Actually, I love your post. That is the exact argument I have made about Halo 2's weapon spawning system effectively damaging the game.
For some strange reason, I always thought you were of the female gender. Namely due to the fact that I always read your name as "Bluegirl1".
When I played the beta, every little issue I had with Halo 2 felt fixed. From weapon balance ( AR = Best starter weapon*,) to networking issues. Maybe it was because of the lower numbers, but I didn't see too much of the "host skills" when playing the beta. Everyone felt like they had a chance of coming out on top in each fight. Whether the man in front of me had the shotgun or BR, I still had a small, glimmering chance of taking the victory with just a spiker or AR.
They simply balanced the game. That is what I thought was the worst part of Halo 2. Balancing was horrid. Though, to be honest, I didn't like the Fragmentation grenades in Halo 3. I think them having a shorter fuse-timer would help with that, though.
When I read that Wired article, and saw just how much trouble they got themselves in to when making Halo 2, it really gave me a sense that they are giving it their all in this game, and I'm really looking forward to the end product. I want to see just how well these guys paid attention to their fans.
It's a shame I have three exams right when the game comes out AND have to have surgery a few days afterwards. Needless to say, I may be running a bit late on my other exams!
* Though many will say the BR would make the perfect starter, I couldn't agree with that. Sure, it's an awesome weapon, and everyone should be swapping with it at any chance they can do so, but Halo showed me that starting with a scoped, ranged weapon just doesn't feel right. Halo 2 had the right idea, just the whole SMGs thing sort of killed it.
People should start off with a weaker weapon on ranked games, and through experience and time, learn where each weapon is in each map, and plan their tactics according to that. Thats probably the only "unbalanced" part of Halo that I feel is needed. Lucky spawns and weapon placement should be part of anyone's "skills" in Halo.
Edit: Just so we're all clear here. I feel as if Halo 3 balanced the weapons in general, but I also feel that knowing weapon placements, and knowing the maps in general, is also a large part of HaloCE/2/3.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
SpudBud said:
No, you will not. The great journey waits for no one.
Not even you.
GarthVaderUK
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Vyse The Legend said:
Gerstmann reviewed Halo 2 PC, didn't he? 7/10?
JumpingYoshi
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Have any Halo 3 reviews come out yet???
â Narayan
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I thought it was:Domino Theory said:
"NO. You will not."
"The weight of your heresy will stay your feet."
"... And you shall be left behind."
I really need to finish Persona 3, so that I can replay the Halo games.
MaX_PL said:
I don't usually agree with you, but your point is valid. I hate radar, in any game type. Radar for friendlies is good, but for enemies it sucks much of the strategy out of the game. I'm pretty sure I heard Luke once say something similar about radars so I think he is playing devil's advocate.
Without a radar, it'd solve so many of those 0-0 deadlock games in ctf. I usually play customs and take the radar off. I suspect you'll do the same.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
U K Narayan said:
It is. Thanks for reminding me.
I totally forgot the line after "you will not" so I mixed it with a quote from later on.JumpingYoshi
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Yeah..I know. But no scans have been leaked? I mean at least 4 stray copies have already been sold...I'm very surprised that Halo 3 reviews or the game itself hasn't been leaked yet.
Man, I am sooo hyped for this game...9 days to go!!!!
Man, I am sooo hyped for this game...9 days to go!!!!
â Narayan
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Actually, I was missing a part. It's really:Domino Theory said:It is. Thanks for reminding me.
"Soon The Great Journey will begin."
"But when it does, the weight of your heresy will stay your feet."
"... And you shall be left behind."
A girl!? No way, my friend. My screen name is a Sonic reference I've never dropped! But I completely agree with what you said. I have mentioned that I would always prefer Battle Rifle Start matches, but I do see the logic behind that not necessarily being the optimal starting weapon.EvaPlusMinus said:
Stahsky
A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
DD-11 said:
And that is when crouching comes into play. It defeats the purpose of the way they made the game, if you cannot adapt to how they set it up. Crouching, weapon placements, spawning, power weapons, etc etc. Learn them and use them to your advantage.
But as you said, you can just play customs if you still feel the same.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
*beaten.Domino Theory said:
EvaPlusMinus said:
It's a little better with crouch on a toggle now, but it's still no good. And your logic is flawed, I am able to look at a radar and see where people are coming from. It's not as if it's a hard skill to master looking. I'd just prefer not to.
It's just more interesting when you know someone is near or coming but you have no idea from where. It keeps players on their toes. It also cuts down on grenade spam and camping. Instead of training your sights on the door you know the enemy is coming from, you have to adapt and learn and more open and loose defence, which takes more skill IMO.
Yeah, I agree, I also loved BR start in Halo 2, if only for the fact that it started me with a weapon I could actually kill with. I'm sorry, but I absolutely HATED starting with the SMG and having to pick a decent weapon, or find a good dual-wielding component before I even had the slightest chance of killing someone. I'm really happy Bungie was able to solve this with the addition of the AR. In the Beta, I thought the AR was a very capable weapon, and at times I'd keep it instead of the BR, which, let me tell you, rarely ever happened in Halo 2 with the SMG. Personally, with the addition of the AR, I don't think BR start will really be necessary anymore.
I <3 AR.
I <3 AR.
Stahsky
A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
GhaleonEB said:
I haven't put too much thought into the equips, but that does sounds rather interesting. It'll make my sneaking a bit more entertaining, that's for sure.
Edit: DD, if my logic is flawed, wouldn't that make Bungie's logic flawed? They made it that way. They made it so you had to play smart. It makes perfect sense, and I honestly can't see how anyone can't just work around the radar by crouching.
Phew, finally got to the end of the thread, i've been trying to catch up for days :lol
I can't wait to get my copy, hopefully GAME will get it to me a day early like they did with Bioshock, although i am in work that day, what a bitch that would be!
It still surprises me just how many features bungie have crammed into this game, i'm not sure how i'll ever decide what to do
LTTP but, that believe site is fantastic. The full ad for it is cool too, though i'm not sure that it is really going to make anyone want to go out and buy the game (that hasn't already thought about doing so).
I can't wait to get my copy, hopefully GAME will get it to me a day early like they did with Bioshock, although i am in work that day, what a bitch that would be!
It still surprises me just how many features bungie have crammed into this game, i'm not sure how i'll ever decide what to do
LTTP but, that believe site is fantastic. The full ad for it is cool too, though i'm not sure that it is really going to make anyone want to go out and buy the game (that hasn't already thought about doing so).
Domino Theory said:
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Domino Theory said:It is. Thanks for reminding me.
Yeah, that quote is from when
the Prophet of Mercy
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Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Recoil said:
Yes, I know. I had just simply forgotten the line.
Mr. Lemming
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DD-11 said:
If you are relying on the motion tracker to determine where players are coming from you are going to get burned by someone crouch walking. Or not moving at all for that matter.
I don't see how a lack of the motion tracker leads to a lack of camping. It just means they watch the doorway instead of the tracker... which makes it even harder for you to penetrate that position since they aren't distracted looking for a faint red blip while you crouch up next to them and rub your gums against their toes like my cat just did to me.
EvaPlusMinus said:
And you can use the customs to go the other direction, increase the radar range.
I loved the AR start in the beta, and frequently found myself keeping the AR vs the BR (especially if I was wielding the needler) on High Ground, and occasionally Snowbound. It was a great finishing weapon, and mixed with a grenade or melee, gave you a fighting chance. It's purely short-range, but if you're an in-close type of player, it's great.
As for radar, yes, it allows for camping, but like everything else in the game, there is a balancer: crouch. I got snuck up on plenty of times in the beta, and I imagine the same will be true of the retail game. Can't wait to see what the radar jammer brings to the game as well.
Stahsky
A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
Mr. Lemming said:
Kinky
Edit: So am I in the wrong for having the Needler in Halo 3 as my favorite weapon that I tried in the beta? That thing was a beast.
Edit 2: Yeah, Ferrex. I've been looking forward to that sort of thing aswell. Though, personally, I dislike any form of MLG or "pro" games. I was quite happy with the way Bungie designed them.
You know, one of the things I'm most looking forward to is having some high end films of MLG players (and/or their proteges) playing the games they think are balanced. In Halo 2, I've found such games to be insufferable and uninstructive, generally because I'm too busy ragdolling around from headshots.
But watching some such games from a free perspective should be enlightening. Are the changes really to place a focus on skill? Or do they (knowingly or unknowingly) reduce the decision space to enforce a status quo that they have learned to dominate?
It'll be interesting and instructive.
But watching some such games from a free perspective should be enlightening. Are the changes really to place a focus on skill? Or do they (knowingly or unknowingly) reduce the decision space to enforce a status quo that they have learned to dominate?
It'll be interesting and instructive.
Buttonbasher
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I'll be watching a bunch of them. I think it could seriously improve my game. Time to put the tent away :lolferrex said:
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
Nas spends his 34th b-day playing Halo 3. Lucky motherfucker
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
34th? He doesn't look a day over 14!Agent Icebeezy said:
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
This will be interesting. I have a friend who swears he is the best player out of my group of friends just because he PWNS in lockout when we play free for all, but as soon as we play Team Slayer his team will always lose no matter which other players are playing with him. We have tried to explain him he is just a bad team player, but he doesnt want to accept it. The film feature will help us to explain what is wrong with his playing style.ferrex said:
I hate this things. Its always the famous people who get the best stuff early. If I was in charge I would make a contest to prove who are the most hardcore fans and allow them to play the game early before any spoiled star.... oh wait.Agent Icebeezy said:
Nas spends his 34th b-day playing Halo 3. Lucky motherfucker
JumpingYoshi
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I want to play Halo 3...
DC Tactical
Member
ferrex said:
It's the latter and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. MLG rules and gametypes are in place because it's the closest thing they can get to Halo: CE's mutliplayer style. There is such a strong nostalgic feeling towards Halo because that's were all these "pros" got their start. They dominated then, and they dominate now because everything in Halo 2 they gear towards Halo. Just look at the BR starts. In Halo every single MLG pro used the pistol. It's funny watching older videos of those tournaments, because you'd see every single player switch to their sidearm upon respawn. And the closest thing to the pistol in Halo 2? The Battle Rifle.
I will agree that a certain amount of skill is required to be competitive, however, don't be fooled that the rules are there to promote sheer skill.
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